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I'm going One X in May. I can't stand pentile screens. I seriously think the Bionic and RAZR look like absolute crap, especially compared to my iPhone 4. I think the One X will look just as good, hopefully better than the iPhone.
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Also, a lot of the benchmarks are somewhat biased towards Qualcomm chips. That and the resolution play a big part in the results.

the S4 should be faster in most real world uses though. it is basically 2 A15 cores (the architechture is very similar+Qualcomm licences the instruction sets from the A15), where the the Tegra 3 is 4 A9 cores, and very little software is able to leverage all 4 cores simultaneously.

so really, it comes down to: 2 A15ish cores, or ~2.5 A9 cores. (if that makes any sense)


But since Qualcomm hasn't released their 320 GPU yet, the Tegra 3 still dominates in that sector.....

I really wanna know what was going down at the Qualcomm board meetings:


employee: Sir, we have invented the fastest CPU on the market.

boss: perfect, now what have you done for the GPU?

employee: well....nothing really....we kinda bumped the clocks a few MHz, but otherwise it is the same as the Adreno 220.

boss: GENIUS! you need a raise!!!
Ah, thanks for the explanation. I had it in my head that the S4 was going to be faster but I'd not properly understood about it using A15 cores versus A9 cores. Makes sense now.

That would be my main issue with getting the One X really - the fact that there are already Snapdragons out there beating it, and in 6 months or so (?) there'll be quad core Snapdragons crushing it.
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Ah, thanks for the explanation. I had it in my head that the S4 was going to be faster but I'd not properly understood about it using A15 cores versus A9 cores. Makes sense now.
That would be my main issue with getting the One X really - the fact that there are already Snapdragons out there beating it, and in 6 months or so (?) there'll be quad core Snapdragons crushing it.

Engadget has a review on the One S (S4) vs the One X (Tegra 3) with some benchmarks. Both are top tier and won't get outdated this year. Now that android can use GPU acceleration outside of apps, things should be silky smooth. Again that's what I'm banking on since I'm ditching the iPhone finally (have had 3 iPhones)
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/05/htc-one-x-vs-one-s/
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Ah, thanks for the explanation. I had it in my head that the S4 was going to be faster but I'd not properly understood about it using A15 cores versus A9 cores. Makes sense now.
That would be my main issue with getting the One X really - the fact that there are already Snapdragons out there beating it, and in 6 months or so (?) there'll be quad core Snapdragons crushing it.

The S4 doesn't use A15 cores, however generation wise they are the same.

processor tech generation wise (NOT performance):
S4 is to Cortex A15 as Cortex A15 is to Ti OMAP5
Tegra 3 is to Cortex A9 as Cortex A9 is to Ti OMAP4 or Apple A5 or Samsung Exynos or Tegra 2.

by the same logic, either an 8 core Tegra chip, or an A15 based Tegra chip could be out in 6 months or so.
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Engadget has a review on the One S (Tegra 3) vs the One X (S4) with some benchmarks. Both are top tier and won't get outdated this year. Now that android can use GPU acceleration outside of apps, things should be silky smooth. Again that's what I'm banking on since I'm ditching the iPhone finally (have had 3 iPhones)
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/05/htc-one-x-vs-one-s/

First off even gingerbread runs smoothly outside of apps even on older devices.

Next, the S is S4, and the X is Tegra.

and yea, I really don't see them being outdated any time soon. Even my single core S2 phone keeps up in all applications (save for intensive 3D games).
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Perceived performance on the Tegra 3 will be higher due to the games support. That's the important thing, how games actually run.

Out of the box though, the One X is having problems with games. Buggy to say the least.
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The S4 doesn't use A15 cores, however generation wise they are the same.
processor tech generation wise (NOT performance):
S4 is to Cortex A15 as Cortex A15 is to Ti OMAP5
Tegra 3 is to Cortex A9 as Cortex A9 is to Ti OMAP4 or Apple A5 or Samsung Exynos or Tegra 2.
by the same logic, either an 8 core Tegra chip, or an A15 based Tegra chip could be out in 6 months or so.
First off even gingerbread runs smoothly outside of apps even on older devices.
Next, the S is S4, and the X is Tegra.
and yea, I really don't see them being outdated any time soon. Even my single core S2 phone keeps up in all applications (save for intensive 3D games).

I disagree. I've played extensively with a Driod Bionic and a Droid X2 with gingerbread and it's still nowhere near as smooth as my iPhone 4. Anand talks about this in his article on why ICS is so great.
Quote:
With Ice Cream Sandwich, the OS, browser and all first party apps are OpenGL ES accelerated. The result is absolutely noticeable. App launches, scrolling and window transitions are all buttery smooth. Web browsing is unbelievably smooth and easily comparable to iOS and Windows Phone at this point.
Source

I misstyped the CPUs lol. Good catch thumb.gif
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Yeah, Gingerbread can only really be described as smooth on the fastest devices - the Galaxy SII etc.

Honestly, that's why I want ICS so much.
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I disagree. I've played extensively with a Driod Bionic and a Droid X2 with gingerbread and it's still nowhere near as smooth as my iPhone 4. Anand talks about this in his article on why ICS is so great.
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With Ice Cream Sandwich, the OS, browser and all first party apps are OpenGL ES accelerated. The result is absolutely noticeable. App launches, scrolling and window transitions are all buttery smooth. Web browsing is unbelievably smooth and easily comparable to iOS and Windows Phone at this point.
Source
I misstyped the CPUs lol. Good catch thumb.gif

"played" typically implies that you used it at a store. In which case, i am not surprised. 9001 apps running in the background of a stock rom will cause unresponsiveness. Come "play" with my Thunderbolt, and you will probably know what I mean.
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Yeah, Gingerbread can only really be described as smooth on the fastest devices - the Galaxy SII etc.
Honestly, that's why I want ICS so much.

I have a chipset from 2 years ago. Runs GB just fine. You just need to know what you are doing.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-4665.php

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What's not to want?
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Originally Posted by reflex99 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by sepheroth003 View Post

I disagree. I've played extensively with a Driod Bionic and a Droid X2 with gingerbread and it's still nowhere near as smooth as my iPhone 4. Anand talks about this in his article on why ICS is so great.
Quote:
With Ice Cream Sandwich, the OS, browser and all first party apps are OpenGL ES accelerated. The result is absolutely noticeable. App launches, scrolling and window transitions are all buttery smooth. Web browsing is unbelievably smooth and easily comparable to iOS and Windows Phone at this point.
Source
I misstyped the CPUs lol. Good catch thumb.gif

"played" typically implies that you used it at a store. In which case, i am not surprised. 9001 apps running in the background of a stock rom will cause unresponsiveness. Come "play" with my Thunderbolt, and you will probably know what I mean.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellis View Post

Yeah, Gingerbread can only really be described as smooth on the fastest devices - the Galaxy SII etc.
Honestly, that's why I want ICS so much.

I have a chipset from 2 years ago. Runs GB just fine. You just need to know what you are doing.
Fine performance != smooth performance
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-4665.php

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What's not to want? The fact that it's not available in this country.
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