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I'm planning on doing a custom loop for the following hardware in a Corsair 800D.

i5 2500k
gtx 680
gtx 680
p8p67 evo nb/sb (unsure about this)

List of parts so far:

1x Corsair 800D
2x EK-FC680 GTX - Acetal+EN Nickel
2x EK-FC680 GTX Backplate - Black
1x FrozenQ Liquid Fusion Blue Reservoir V2
1x Black Ice GT Xtreme 360 Black or Black Ice SR-1 360
1x Black Ice GT Xtreme 240 Black or Black Ice SR-1 240
1x Swiftech MCP655
1x XSPC RayStorm CPU WaterBlock or EK-Supreme HF - Acetal+Nickel
1x MIPS ASUS P8P67 Series Set MCH2447
Tubing
Compression Fittings

Since this is my first time doing a custom loop I have no idea what to go for when it comes to tubes/fittings. Will I be fine with one 360 rad or would I need a second 240 rad. Also, are the Black Ice GTX rads good for a build like this or should I go with other rads ?

Layout:

512

Any comments on this plan ?

Thanks biggrin.gif
Edited by sjaakmatje - 4/6/12 at 3:08pm
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Go to Skinnee Labs
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I'll have a look at it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sjaakmatje View Post

Shameless self-bump

You shameless tongue.gif

My considerations:
- You plan to use quite a lot of rads and blocks. Make sure either they have a low restriction to your flow or that you get a powerful pump. I got myself a Swiftech MCP35X, that would blow your socks off biggrin.gif Expensive but I suggest it for the high flow and PWM.

- Again, for that number of blocks and those type of components, I'm sure you got it right: a 360+240rad would suit you well

- Black Ice rads are some of the best out there, if not the best. They have a downside though: their fins pattern is very tight/dense, so you will need some high rpm fans. If you care a lot about the noise I'd suggest a change, XSPC or EK rads work well even with low rpm fans.

- Fittings? Barbs? Whatever man, they act the same. The difference is in the look. I personally think that the barbs have a 'Sparta' feel lol, while the compression fittings have a sleek and clean design. They are expensive but good design comes with a price. You've choosen a FrozenQ resevoir so I assume you have some good taste there.

- Tubing; the choice is yours, you can go with the measure you like more. Just remember that while you can go with a tighter tube and slightly larger barb to have a leakproof system, this ain't working for compression fittings: they must match the tubing measure perfectly.
Have a look at this chart:
tubing_compression.jpg

More questions? Just ask!
post #6 of 27
Just wanted to point out that your layout won't quite work... The GTX radiators have the inlet and outlet on the same end, which means your top radiator can't have tubing running from opposite ends, it needs to be like your 240. I'm going to suggest something like this:

TVy4d.png

That's about the cleanest setup I could come up with. Note that I put the GPUs in parallel, because it will help slightly with your total flow rate, but if you're opposed to the idea of parallel on the GPUs, that's easy enough to change. You'll likely need 3/8" ID tubing in order to make some of those bends, or a pretty good selection of angled rotaries.
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Just wanted to point out that your layout won't quite work... The GTX radiators have the inlet and outlet on the same end, which means your top radiator can't have tubing running from opposite ends, it needs to be like your 240. I'm going to suggest something like this:
TVy4d.png
That's about the cleanest setup I could come up with. Note that I put the GPUs in parallel, because it will help slightly with your total flow rate, but if you're opposed to the idea of parallel on the GPUs, that's easy enough to change. You'll likely need 3/8" ID tubing in order to make some of those bends, or a pretty good selection of angled rotaries.

Lol how didn't I notice that xD
Good advice, and that's a nice path too. The water would be chilled right before the SLI cards and the CPU/chipset blocks. Good job!
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i agree with bakageta paths, your first one didn't have anything hitting the rad first, just pump straight to component.
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You shameless tongue.gif
My considerations:
- You plan to use quite a lot of rads and blocks. Make sure either they have a low restriction to your flow or that you get a powerful pump. I got myself a Swiftech MCP35X, that would blow your socks off biggrin.gif Expensive but I suggest it for the high flow and PWM.
- Again, for that number of blocks and those type of components, I'm sure you got it right: a 360+240rad would suit you well
- Black Ice rads are some of the best out there, if not the best. They have a downside though: their fins pattern is very tight/dense, so you will need some high rpm fans. If you care a lot about the noise I'd suggest a change, XSPC or EK rads work well even with low rpm fans.
- Fittings? Barbs? Whatever man, they act the same. The difference is in the look. I personally think that the barbs have a 'Sparta' feel lol, while the compression fittings have a sleek and clean design. They are expensive but good design comes with a price. You've choosen a FrozenQ resevoir so I assume you have some good taste there.
- Tubing; the choice is yours, you can go with the measure you like more. Just remember that while you can go with a tighter tube and slightly larger barb to have a leakproof system, this ain't working for compression fittings: they must match the tubing measure perfectly.
Have a look at this chart:
tubing_compression.jpg
More questions? Just ask!

Thanks for the detailed reply!

Some more questions:

- I'm not well informed when it comes to flow restriction and rates tongue.gif. Would the components I selected work well together ?
- Isn't the MCP665 a good pump for this kind of setup ?
- I've read about having different component materials in one loop being bad for the loop. The GPU blocks are Acetal + Nickel, would that be okay in combination with the CPU and NB/SB blocks ?
- Noise is something that bothers me, so I'd probably have to go with different rads then. Can you recommend me which combination of rads and fans I should go with for less noise, but not losing too much on cooling performance ?
- Does rad location have any influence on the temps ? I.e. 240 RAD > GPU 1 + 2 > 360 RAD > NB > CPU > SB > RES. Do the rads lower the temps for the entire loop, or just for the bits where the heated water comes off the components ?

I still have to do some research on the whole tubing/fittings/barbs part biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by bakageta View Post

Just wanted to point out that your layout won't quite work... The GTX radiators have the inlet and outlet on the same end, which means your top radiator can't have tubing running from opposite ends, it needs to be like your 240. I'm going to suggest something like this:
TVy4d.png
That's about the cleanest setup I could come up with. Note that I put the GPUs in parallel, because it will help slightly with your total flow rate, but if you're opposed to the idea of parallel on the GPUs, that's easy enough to change. You'll likely need 3/8" ID tubing in order to make some of those bends, or a pretty good selection of angled rotaries.

I noticed that later on yeah, haha. Could you explain some more about the parallel thing ?
Edited by sjaakmatje - 4/6/12 at 8:37am
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Running the GPUs parallel splits the flow evenly over them, which gives the GPU blocks slightly less flow while boosting the overall flow of the loop due to less restriction. GPU blocks aren't particularly sensitive to flow, which means they'll perform similarly either way, while a CPU block will benefit from the increased flow. You can see in my diagram how to plumb them for parallel, connect both blocks together with both ports between them, and then have an inlet and outlet on opposite sides, so that the inlet and outlet don't line up.

For radiators suited for slower fans, the Black Ice SR-1 isn't bad at all, and has the same high build quality as the GTX series. XSPC's EX and RX series are also both popular, they're a bit cheaper but I personally prefer the build quality on the Black Ice radiators. For fans, Yate Loon mediums are good for the ultra-budget, or XSPC's 1650rpm fans for slightly more. If budget isn't a concern, Gentle Typhoons are always popular.

(edit)
As for restriction, that's a pretty complex loop, but nothing a quality pump can't handle. The MCP-35X or a D5 should be fine here, or you can always go with a pair of MCP-350's or similar to have some redundancy. The nickel plated blocks will be just fine with the copper in most other blocks.
Edited by bakageta - 4/6/12 at 8:41am
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