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Owning a Macintosh is a better experience.

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Well, with all due respects, you're the one who was complaining about bias and you've just mostly offered an opinion of your own. I don't dispute that some things about the Mac may be better. Its the overall package here that concerns me. Mostly the hardware and how it translates into running CAD, video editing AND games for his kids. I don't care at all about what has happened in the past. I'm not building this rig in 1995, I'm building it next week. Given the parameters of what I put forth from the very beginning, I think the forum has made it very clear (without bias either, IMO) that the PC is better for my friend's situation. My friend sat next to me yesterday for two hours reading the replies here. Bear in mind this is the same guy who had a clear bias towards Apple in the beginning. He ended up being swayed rather easily to go with the PC and it was not because of opinions. It was the facts in regards to the better CPU, better GPU, more ram and far more storage. In the end, the better gaming of the PC had an enormous impact on him (its for his kids, I can understand that). We took steps to try and even the field as much as possible for the one clear advantage the Mac had and I feel we did ok in that area. I have no idea how he got it, but he has a copy of OS X and will install it if he feels he needs it. Currently, there is no plan for that though.
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post #92 of 181
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Well, you have me here... I really am ignorant when it comes to OS X. However, its my understanding that both CAD and the video editing software would have to run on Windows any way, so the benefit of OS X is lost there, no? I know from my own rig that 16GB is going to make a difference with the video editing. I have a hard time believing that 4GB on a Mac is going to work the same. If I am wrong, then I am, but I fail to see it. You're talking about 25% of the Ram... I don't care about 75% of all people, I care about my friend's needs.
Used the figure to emphasize my point. Also if the CAD software and video editing he uses runs on Windows only then why is he bothering with the choice of a Mac ?
And trust me iMac's are silent hardly any noise believe me. A desktop PC with all it's fans is much louder even at idle.


you can make a gaming computer quiet you know. With my fans turned down I can't hear them. But i'm also water cooling so even at load there is no noise if i chose. biggrin.gif Though some video cards can get loud at load. If you want a silent computer all you need to do is get the right parts.

Because the fan in the iMac is set to be more quiet, the components inside tend to get hotter. I have seen many iMac's with dead video cards because they are not cooled properly.
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post #93 of 181
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Well, with all due respects, you're the one who was complaining about bias and you've just mostly offered an opinion of your own. I don't dispute that some things about the Mac may be better. Its the overall package here that concerns me. Mostly the hardware and how it translates into running CAD, video editing AND games for his kids. I don't care at all about what has happened in the past. I'm not building this rig in 1995, I'm building it next week. Given the parameters of what I put forth from the very beginning, I think the forum has made it very clear (without bias either, IMO) that the PC is better for my friend's situation. My friend sat next to me yesterday for two hours reading the replies here. Bear in mind this is the same guy who had a clear bias towards Apple in the beginning. He ended up being swayed rather easily to go with the PC and it was not because of opinions. It was the facts in regards to the better CPU, better GPU, more ram and far more storage. In the end, the better gaming of the PC had an enormous impact on him (its for his kids, I can understand that). We took steps to try and even the field as much as possible for the one clear advantage the Mac had and I feel we did ok in that area. I have no idea how he got it, but he has a copy of OS X and will install it if he feels he needs it. Currently, there is no plan for that though.

Yes what I said was biased but I though I backed up my comment fairly well. ( I'll keep working on it though ;-)

As for the rest, I agree that when simply saying he wants CAD and gaming this thread would be a lot shorter.

The thing is it didn't really seem that way. It's seemed like another let's bash Apple thread.

As for the guys telling you to stop posting, this is your thread so post whatever you want. It's actually better than most Apple threads on here.
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No it sounded like an order to me. Guys, Lou's won and his friend has made their ddcision and ALREADY ORDERED. How bout you guys stop making this a flame war?
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Well, with all due respects, you're the one who was complaining about bias and you've just mostly offered an opinion of your own. I don't dispute that some things about the Mac may be better. Its the overall package here that concerns me. Mostly the hardware and how it translates into running CAD, video editing AND games for his kids. I don't care at all about what has happened in the past. I'm not building this rig in 1995, I'm building it next week. Given the parameters of what I put forth from the very beginning, I think the forum has made it very clear (without bias either, IMO) that the PC is better for my friend's situation. My friend sat next to me yesterday for two hours reading the replies here. Bear in mind this is the same guy who had a clear bias towards Apple in the beginning. He ended up being swayed rather easily to go with the PC and it was not because of opinions. It was the facts in regards to the better CPU, better GPU, more ram and far more storage. In the end, the better gaming of the PC had an enormous impact on him (its for his kids, I can understand that). We took steps to try and even the field as much as possible for the one clear advantage the Mac had and I feel we did ok in that area. I have no idea how he got it, but he has a copy of OS X and will install it if he feels he needs it. Currently, there is no plan for that though.

Yes what I said was biased but I though I backed up my comment fairly well. ( I'll keep working on it though ;-)

As for the rest, I agree that when simply saying he wants CAD and gaming this thread would be a lot shorter.

The thing is it didn't really seem that way. It's seemed like another let's bash Apple thread.

As for the guys telling you to stop posting, this is your thread so post whatever you want. It's actually better than most Apple threads on here.

You did back up your statements well and I thank you for that.

I mentioned in my OP what the main purpose of the rig was, but after 10+ pages, its easy for that message to get lost along the way. To the credit of all of those who responded (especially the ones yesterday while my friend was reading along), I really didn't notice any Apple bashing.
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What are you kidding me??? You can respond to anything you feel like debating, yet I can't??? Who died and made you in charge of the forums? In case you missed it, the purpose of forums is to exchange thoughts, ideas, and opinions. Don't you dare tell me what I can or cannot do...
This thread went off without a hitch and now an Apple apologists gets his panties in a twist and he wants to start instructing people on what they can and cannot say on a forum. Take a hike pal.

As you said he's made his choice which was the purpose of this thread to help assist his decision making.

It's literally now just x Apple feature is better or worse than x custom build feature which isn't useful to anyone.

Chiefly because most people on OCN and this thread in general look through anti-apple tinted spectacles.
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What are you kidding me??? You can respond to anything you feel like debating, yet I can't??? Who died and made you in charge of the forums? In case you missed it, the purpose of forums is to exchange thoughts, ideas, and opinions. Don't you dare tell me what I can or cannot do...
This thread went off without a hitch and now an Apple apologists gets his panties in a twist and he wants to start instructing people on what they can and cannot say on a forum. Take a hike pal.

As you said he's made his choice which was the purpose of this thread to help assist his decision making.

It's literally now just x Apple feature is better or worse than x custom build feature which isn't useful to anyone.

Chiefly because most people on OCN and this thread in general look through anti-apple tinted spectacles.

This thread was left for dead until you and another Apple defender showed up to make your case. So, you can state your opinion, but nobody is allowed to retort? As I said to the other guy who was talking about a bias, I haven't noticed any at all. If you read what was posted yesterday, most people were quite complimentary of Apple and their products. This thread was never a pissing contest until you came along. I asked for facts yesterday, and that is exactly what I got. I don't understand why you feel this thread has been slanted in any way. Have you actually read the posts? Especially the first 3 or 4 pages? If you did so with an open mind, you probably wouldn't have the opinion that you do. Maybe not though...
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post #98 of 181
It comes down to the OS he wants to use. If he is going to build a something and wants a mac look into a hackitosh. www.x86project.org
You would have to be more parts specific but building your custom rig you would end up Way past the I-mac. With a mac it will hold its value a lot longer but you will be stuck with what you bought, period.
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Purely looking at the hardware, custom build hands down any day. The form factor of the iMac isn't a big selling point for me at all, its compact and all, but I could just build a micro-itx system if that's what I wanted. The only plus for the iMac is the display, which you could just get a better one building it yourself. And then the mix of mobile parts and desktop parts, very un-upgradeable, limited gpu performance; he'll most likely find performance to be lacking, especially with what he wants to do on it.

On the software side, if he likes OSx then sure get a Mac. Its possible to... takes some work but its actually pretty easy to setup. I like OSx, and in quite a few instances I prefer it over Windows, but paying for Apple hardware is unjustifiable for the most part IMO.
Never buy a Mac for its hardware, there's nothing superior about it at all.
 
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post #100 of 181
I think building beats Any PreMade computer, Dell, HP, Apple... whatever. I've built all of One rigs in my life and never had a single issue with it. When I wanted to upgrade my GPU, My Ram, my C Drive, my Audio I just went out and bought what I needed, pulled off a side panel and plugged it in. For looks, I recently upgraded to a 650d which is at least as attractive to me as anything I've seen from Apple and there are some Silverstone cases that very much trump apple for aesthetics IMO. If I want an Apple monitor I'll go buy one.

Building beats Pre Made, it's not even a fair fight. Whether Dell/HP are as good as Apple might be a fair fight but Building vs. PreMade... not even close.
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