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Originally Posted by nvidiaftw12 View Post

^^^ Waterfox, adblock + noscript, haven't had any problems in almost a year now.

This with the addition of HTTPS Everywhere. I also use Avira and Malwarebytes, just in case. This computer has never been infected.

Whenever I fix someone's PC I always recommend they install Firefox, addons, and replace their McAfee/Norton/Virus-pretending-to-be-their-antivirus with Avira. Just having an AV/firewall anymore isn't enough if you don't know how to browse the web properly. Also, I know people that still use Lime/Frostwire. That's just begging for trouble.
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Cue the "I'm too smart to use an AV" brigade. The actual people who are mostly responsible for the viruses becoming so successful in the first place.
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This with the addition of HTTPS Everywhere. I also use Avira and Malwarebytes, just in case. This computer has never been infected.
Whenever I fix someone's PC I always recommend they install Firefox, addons, and replace their McAfee/Norton/Virus-pretending-to-be-their-antivirus with Avira. Just having an AV/firewall anymore isn't enough if you don't know how to browse the web properly. Also, I know people that still use Lime/Frostwire. That's just begging for trouble.

HTTPS Everywhere will do literally nothing to stop malware - it's a tool for privacy and data security, not protecting you against the content of the data.
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Cue the "I'm too smart to use an AV" brigade. The actual people who are mostly responsible for the viruses becoming so successful in the first place.

Yep, same attitude as the 'Macs are invulnerable' brigade.
You're idiotic if you don't use some sort of real-time protection.
It's like 'Don't worry, my GF's just had her period!' logic.....

Yes, 'common sense' is a form of protection, but it's far from foolproof.

Antivirus is different from anti spyware.

Also using no firewall is really like chancing it with a 'working girl' off the street....
Edited by chinesekiwi - 4/5/12 at 4:40pm
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HTTPS Everywhere will do literally nothing to stop malware - it's a tool for privacy and data security, not protecting you against the content of the data.

This. As stated, it's for protection from people intercepting your data, but does nothing about the content of the data.
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Yep, same attitude as the 'Macs are invulnerable' brigade.
You're idiotic if you don't use some sort of real-time protection.
It's like 'Don't worry, my GF's just had her period!' logic.....
Yes, 'common sense' is a form of protection, but it's far from foolproof.
Antivirus is different from anti spyware.
Also using no firewall is really like chancing it with a 'working girl' off the street....

So when you do get a virus, pull out the windows cd. Probably about time anyway.
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The best, relatable example I can give to the people who think "common sense" and NoScript is all you need to browse safely is the infected ad on this site months ago.

You guys consider OCN a safe website, right? Well, their ad provider somehow got a malicious ad, and many people were infected. I know many of you block ads, but that's beside the point. The point is malicious software can come from just about anywhere. Don't fool yourself into thinking you can just avoid it with "smart browsing."

Another thing I recommend is to run CCleaner every day to get rid of tracking malware and who knows what else, that easily make their way into your temp files are you browse around "safe" sites. Even if you aren't concerned about the seemingly benign tracking, you could quite possibly be getting rid of something worse.

You can add cookie and file exceptions so you can run CCleaner without losing site logins or specific files you want to keep.
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So when you do get a virus, pull out the windows cd. Probably about time anyway.

Yeah nevermind all those files that potentially become unrecoverable.
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So when you do get a virus, pull out the windows cd. Probably about time anyway.

You only reinstall Windows / use the Recovery console as a last resort.
Not to mention as with anything health wise, prevention is far better than treatment after it happened.
Also not to mention it's using like dynamite to blow up a fly. It's more inconvenient and it's overkill.
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hehe Some of us dont do a damn thing with our PC's but game

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I have 0 issue with a fresh install if i notice too much infection lol

but no seriously ive not had a virus since funlove.32

we do regular ccleaner and malwarebytes sweaps monthly
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post #20 of 366
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post

Yep, same attitude as the 'Macs are invulnerable' brigade.
You're idiotic if you don't use some sort of real-time protection.
It's like 'Don't worry, my GF's just had her period!' logic.....
Yes, 'common sense' is a form of protection, but it's far from foolproof.
Antivirus is different from anti spyware.
Also using no firewall is really like chancing it with a 'working girl' off the street....
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Originally Posted by Kaldari View Post

The best, relatable example I can give to the people who think "common sense" and NoScript is all you need to browse safely is the infected ad on this site months ago.
You guys consider OCN a safe website, right? Well, their ad provider somehow got a malicious ad, and many people were infected. I know many of you block ads, but that's beside the point. The point is malicious software can come from just about anywhere. Don't fool yourself into thinking you can just avoid it with "smart browsing."
Another thing I recommend is to run CCleaner every day to get rid of tracking malware and who knows what else, that easily make their way into your temp files are you browse around "safe" sites. Even if you aren't concerned about the seemingly benign tracking, you could quite possibly be getting rid of something worse.
You can add cookie and file exceptions so you can run CCleaner without losing site logins or specific files you want to keep.
Yeah nevermind all those files that potentially become unrecoverable.
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post

You only reinstall Windows / use the Recovery console as a last resort.
Not to mention as with anything health wise, prevention is far better than treatment after it happened.
Also not to mention it's using like dynamite to blow up a fly. It's more inconvenient and it's overkill.

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