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So I did something for poos and laughs and Redownloaded MBAM and ran MSE (I never run it but keep it updated) just to see what I had procured since I rebuilt this machine with the p67 and 2600k over 2 months ago..


And I wouldn't consider my surfing habits safe.. insert X rated site and torrenting random (LEGIT) files.


0 infections 0 threats 0 blah blah blah..


WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE CLICKING!?
 
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Originally Posted by kyle7412 View Post

The internet is like a city.... don't go into the ghetto area's and you will be fine!

Wrong. To use your analogy (that works in real life too), you do realise that even thought they live in the ghetto, they make their most money from upper class fratboys and selling fake product and commiting most robberies in middle class suburbia?
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post

Wrong. To use your analogy (that works in real life too), you do realise that even thought they live in the ghetto, they make their most money from upper class fratboys and selling fake product and commiting most robberies in middle class suburbia?

Interesting point. I'd be less than shocked if half these botnets and malware intrusions we see these days come from facebook games.. Seriously about the most annoying thing ever.
 
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I use Pale Moon x64 with Adblock Plus and MSE as my AV software. In the past year or so, I have not had any viruses (For this post, I'm using the word "virus" as an elastic term for every type of infection a computer can get). Before then, I was still learning the ins and outs of computers, and because of that I was victim to many viruses. Currently, the only so-called viruses I get are usually false positives that MSE reports, but I feel that's a good thing. Who doesn't like anal AV software biggrin.gif

I really don't understand why some people are bashing MSE. In the past year or so I have used it, it has been a great performer for my needs. It's very minimalistic, sleek, unobtrusive, uses very little resources (~4.8mB msseces.exe), I don't have to worry about updating any subscriptions, and I can forget about it once I install it. I have grown with dozens of AV software installed on many computer systems, and while MSE isn't the absolute best, it certainly gets the job done without degrading my computing experience. I feel that over-the-top AV software like BitDefender, to name one, should only be used for people who aren't very experienced with computers. In other words, overprotective AV software should serve as training wheels for inexperienced computer users. As people start to learn about the ins and outs of computers, they can take those training wheels off and rely on more basic software like MSE. My opinion is that over-the-top AV software restricts you computing experience, much like traction control does on vehicles. Yes, it's safer to use it, but were human. We always manage to find a way so screw stuff up, so why not screw it up in a unrestricted fashion smile.gif Turn off your traction control, rip out the airbags, drive naked. You only have one body, so use it to its fullest potential thumb.gifI might have gone too far there...

Having a computer is like having a child, but the twist is that the child is you. When you are first introduced to computers, you are taught the basic guidelines on how to operate it, and the rules that you should follow in order to have a decent experience. If you are noddy, you will get unfavorable results, but you should learn from those mistakes (i.e. stick to one porn website biggrin.gif ). The computer will teach you things about...whatever, and it is up to you to take those teachings into consideration, and apply them to your daily lifestyle. The computer and you are going to have your ups and downs, times when you feel like you want to kill the computer, and times when you love your computer so much that you begin having second thoughts about yourself, but it is, through those experiences, that you will become a better person than what you were beforehand.

We rely on the experiences of others and ourselves in order to hopefully live a better life. In this case, we learn from the experiences people have been though with viruses so we don't have the same problem they did, and the best way to incorporate it is to download their antivirus software. Obviously, some people have experienced more than others for whatever reason, which is the reason why different antivirus products protects your computer to varying degrees, but it's up to you to choose the best one for your needs. But like I said before, I feel its best to get more than you need at first so you have something to lay back on if something goes amiss. I know my perspective is pretty...different, probably totally wrong, but this is my current viewpoint on antivirus software, and until something happens that totally disrupts my life, it will remain that way.
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STOP USING MSE AS YOUR ANTIVIRUS PEOPLE!

People bash because it's crap based on virus testing.
Edited by chinesekiwi - 4/7/12 at 9:28pm
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Originally Posted by Darkpriest667 View Post

So I did something for poos and laughs and Redownloaded MBAM and ran MSE (I never run it but keep it updated) just to see what I had procured since I rebuilt this machine with the p67 and 2600k over 2 months ago..
And I wouldn't consider my surfing habits safe.. insert X rated site and torrenting random (LEGIT) files.
0 infections 0 threats 0 blah blah blah..
WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE CLICKING!?

You do realise you don't have to even click on the thing for the malware to install right?
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You do realise you don't have to even click on the thing for the malware to install right?

I know you're being cheeky but I was making a joke.
 
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I have never had a virus... Been running windows for years and years with out an AV, I just recently started using MSE. It all comes down to behaviour and knowledge of what is out there.

Sandboxing browsers really would eliminate so many viruses for the average internet user.
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Yeah if you don't browser weird sites of course your AV is enough. These days, all content is easy and in walled gardens. So unless you pirate allot, you are not even being exposed to sites with malware.

But social engineering is an issue, all those dumb facebook spammers can be a problem even with walled garden content providers.
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Yeah if you don't browser weird sites of course your AV is enough. These days, all content is easy and in walled gardens. So unless you pirate allot, you are not even being exposed to sites with malware.
But social engineering is an issue, all those dumb facebook spammers can be a problem even with walled garden content providers.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you'll be wrong. Lots of 'legitimate' websites have had malware issues. We, at OCN had an ad with had malware on it because the ad company didn't detect it.

For the last time: 'Common sense' is a form of protection, but IT IS NOT foolproof
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