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Originally Posted by Kaldari View Post

The best, relatable example I can give to the people who think "common sense" and NoScript is all you need to browse safely is the infected ad on this site months ago.
You guys consider OCN a safe website, right? Well, their ad provider somehow got a malicious ad, and many people were infected. I know many of you block ads, but that's beside the point. The point is malicious software can come from just about anywhere. Don't fool yourself into thinking you can just avoid it with "smart browsing."
Another thing I recommend is to run CCleaner every day to get rid of tracking malware and who knows what else, that easily make their way into your temp files are you browse around "safe" sites. Even if you aren't concerned about the seemingly benign tracking, you could quite possibly be getting rid of something worse.
You can add cookie and file exceptions so you can run CCleaner without losing site logins or specific files you want to keep.
Yeah nevermind all those files that potentially become unrecoverable.

wow ocn runs ads? i had no idea, looks like my ad blocker plus it doing it's job. where are the ads usually? like on the side? because the only thing on the sides for me is blue
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Originally Posted by M0rbidDeath View Post

1) I have never had a virus.

Yeah..
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"I've never had a virus" (that you've noticed).
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Originally Posted by NotUrAverageJoe View Post

And this is what pisses me off... It's people like you who'll unknowingly infect 3 dozen others before they realize they're infected.
mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif

Much of the malware out there is designed to fly under the radar. Just because your system doesn't seem crippled or different doesn't mean you don't have a keylogger sending your login credentials off to another country or a piece of malicious software subsequently infecting everyone in the address book of whatever you use for email.
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Originally Posted by nvidiaftw12 View Post

Backups + parted magic. I think I'm good.
Thank you. With some people's logic we should all drive 25 mph everywhere just ot be extra safe. rolleyes.gif
rolleyes.gif I have gotten 1 real virus since I got this computer over 3 years ago. I was when I was running av, and infected my computer minutes after I dl'ed it. Reinstall fixed it instantly.

Orr, you could just run an A/V and not have to spend time restoring backups in the first place? Backups are only as current as the last time you backed up. There's still pretty good potential for losing something you were recently using or working on.

No, it isn't like asking people to drive 25 mph.

It's more akin to riding a motorcycle in shorts and without a helmet because you obey most of the rules, think you're a pretty good defensive driver, and think you're watchful and have enough common sense to prevent pretty much anything that would cause you to wreck. Then a freak accident causes you to lay your bike down.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

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wow ocn runs ads? i had no idea, looks like my ad blocker plus it doing it's job. where are the ads usually? like on the side? because the only thing on the sides for me is blue

Perhaps you should read all of the very post you quoted and responded to before being a smartass.

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Originally Posted by Kaldari View Post

The best, relatable example I can give to the people who think "common sense" and NoScript is all you need to browse safely is the infected ad on this site months ago.
You guys consider OCN a safe website, right? Well, their ad provider somehow got a malicious ad, and many people were infected. I know many of you block ads, but that's beside the point. The point is malicious software can come from just about anywhere. Don't fool yourself into thinking you can just avoid it with "smart browsing."
Another thing I recommend is to run CCleaner every day to get rid of tracking malware and who knows what else, that easily make their way into your temp files are you browse around "safe" sites. Even if you aren't concerned about the seemingly benign tracking, you could quite possibly be getting rid of something worse.
You can add cookie and file exceptions so you can run CCleaner without losing site logins or specific files you want to keep.
Yeah nevermind all those files that potentially become unrecoverable.

Edited by Kaldari - 4/5/12 at 5:52pm
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Oh golly gee I've been running without antivirus since I was thirteen. Still no viruses... Sounds more like antivirus isn't needed than antivirus isn't sufficient.
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Oh golly gee I've been running without antivirus since I was thirteen. Still no viruses... Sounds more like antivirus isn't needed than antivirus isn't sufficient.

Yup. Let super precautious people be super precautious.
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Yup. Let super precautious people be super precautious.

The real question is why not use one?

Antiviruses have become extremely optimized and effective almost across the board, and computers have gotten exponentially faster. Resources simply aren't an issue anymore, if you're running something made within the last few years that isn't a netbook.

If you can prevent something bad from happening by using that same 30 minutes you claim it takes to completely restore from an attack to get protection set up, why not?
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^^^ Waterfox, adblock + noscript, haven't had any problems in almost a year now.

this plus zonealarm and avg and ive been virus free for 8 years.

zonealarm to keep stuff out or in unless allowed
and avg to quarantine it if it does get on(which it shouldnt unless you download it yourself)

browse smart and stop just clicking boxes/watching porn
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The real question is why not use one?
Antiviruses have become extremely optimized and effective almost across the board, and computers have gotten exponentially faster. Resources simply aren't an issue anymore, if you're running something made within the last few years that isn't a netbook.
If you can prevent something bad from happening by using that same 30 minutes you claim it takes to completely restore from an attack to get protection set up, why not?

Because some people know how to use computers thumb.gif
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Haven't used anything at all (firewall, anti malware/spyware, AV) since windows ME and have never once had a piece of it. Easiest thing to avoid in the world in my opinion...
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Even if they can't keep up, they're still great to have smile.gif

I'm happy with my browser security measures and combination of MalwareBytes and Microsoft Security Essentials.
    
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Because some people know how to use computers thumb.gif

I love the part where you implied that people who know how to "use computers" never get infected with anything. thumb.gif
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