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Originally Posted by MenacingTuba View Post

The above pictures has nothing to do with LED vs CCFL back-lighting. They are different because both monitors have different gamma, brightness, colour temperatures, contrast and average Delta E's.

As to which is more accurate maybe provide a link to the lion picture and I will tell you..
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The whites on LED aren't as white as on CCFL.

Care to back that up?

I have both a CCFL and LED monitor and there is a MAJOR difference between the two in color and vividness. As seen in the pic below with the CCFL on the left and LED on the right you can clearly see which one gives off a better output.

The one on the right looks like it has a blue tinge to it and it looks a little washed out in the black levels. Have either one of them been calibrated or adjusted? Are they the same type of panel? A and B comparison pictures don't really tell anyone anything when no details are given other than CCFL and LED and which is which.

Both are Acer monitors and both are set to standard mode via the Empowering technology on the monitor(s) with no other settings adjusted. Link to photo if you want to try it yourself http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4343/windowsphotoviewerwallpy.jpg
post #22 of 37
CCFL anyday, LED tend to make things very bright and saturated, (hard ond eyes and un-realistic colors) especially on cheapo TN panels.

BTW the Lion photo looks more close to the CCFL based monitor then on the LED pic, i got IPS panel and i can cleary see how the original photo is looking temperature/saturation wise.
Edited by psyside - 4/5/12 at 9:59pm
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The whites on LED aren't as white as on CCFL.

Care to back that up?

I have both a CCFL and LED monitor and there is a MAJOR difference between the two in color and vividness. As seen in the pic below with the CCFL on the left and LED on the right you can clearly see which one gives off a better output.

p1020071n.jpg

Nice blue tinted monitor.
 
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Both are Acer monitors and both are set to standard mode via the Empowering technology on the monitor(s) with no other settings adjusted. Link to photo if you want to try it yourself http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4343/windowsphotoviewerwallpy.jpg

If you are not exactly the same model down to revision and exactly the same settings then mindnumbingly flawed comparison is mindnumbingly flawed.
Not to mention one is on an angle, thus you will get gamma shifting, particularly if they are TN panel monitors.

To answer the OP:

The shift from CCFL to LED has nothing to do with picture quality.
It's all to do with the backlight.

It's all to do with lower power consumption, lower manufacturing cost and being more environmentally friendly.
In computer monitors, the type of panel and the settings matter far more.

'Better for gaming' highly depends on the type of game you are playing and what aspect you are looking at.
Edited by chinesekiwi - 4/5/12 at 10:10pm
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Really, is there such a thing as too bright? doh.gif

YES!!!!

You lose black depth and color detail with a display that is too bright. Displays are often WAY TOO BRIGHT on default settings. Viewsonic monitors are notorious for this.
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Both are Acer monitors and both are set to standard mode via the Empowering technology on the monitor(s) with no other settings adjusted. Link to photo if you want to try it yourself http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4343/windowsphotoviewerwallpy.jpg

Doesn't matter if they are both Acer monitors because they are different models....you can buy 2 of the same model and use the same settings and even after profiling with a colorimeter and software they might not look the same..

The Right one is 2 blue and the gamma is to high. The left monitor has a strong green tint but the gamma looks better... but that might just be the camera. Try changing the colour temperature settings on the left monitor.

and again the differences have nothing to do with LED vs CCFL back-lighting,,,,
Edited by MenacingTuba - 4/5/12 at 10:37pm
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WLED is inferior to CCFL in color gamut. However, RGB LED provides as good or better color gamut.


XAslanX, you cannot just compare a single image between two monitors especially if they have not been calibrated.



Here's a review of Apple's 27in monitor using WLED: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3946/apple-27inch-led-cinema-display-review/3

With WLED, it can only do 83% of AdobeRGB 1998 while CCFL backlighting are doing 90%+.
Edited by DuckieHo - 4/5/12 at 10:49pm
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To answer the OP:
The shift from CCFL to LED has nothing to do with picture quality.
It's all to do with the backlight.
It's all to do with lower power consumption, lower manufacturing cost and being more environmentally friendly.
In computer monitors, the type of panel and the settings matter far more.
'Better for gaming' highly depends on the type of game you are playing and what aspect you are looking at.
Thank you for answering my question! wheee.gif
I'll be mainly playing FPS and Flight-simulators + watching movies. So which type would you recommend? Oh and the resolution would be 2560 x 1440 <-- (If that matters)
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Originally Posted by MenacingTuba View Post

The above pictures has nothing to do with LED vs CCFL back-lighting. They are different because both monitors have different gamma, brightness, colour temperatures, contrast and average Delta E's.

As to which is more accurate maybe provide a link to the lion picture and I will tell you..
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Originally Posted by XAslanX View Post

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Originally Posted by Dirtyworks View Post

The whites on LED aren't as white as on CCFL.

Care to back that up?

I have both a CCFL and LED monitor and there is a MAJOR difference between the two in color and vividness. As seen in the pic below with the CCFL on the left and LED on the right you can clearly see which one gives off a better output.

The one on the right looks like it has a blue tinge to it and it looks a little washed out in the black levels. Have either one of them been calibrated or adjusted? Are they the same type of panel? A and B comparison pictures don't really tell anyone anything when no details are given other than CCFL and LED and which is which.

Both are Acer monitors and both are set to standard mode via the Empowering technology on the monitor(s) with no other settings adjusted. Link to photo if you want to try it yourself http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4343/windowsphotoviewerwallpy.jpg

That's what I figured, you're comparing "out of the box settings" on two different monitors with two different panel types. Everyone else has already said what I was going to say. What you're essentially doing is comparing product "a" to product "b" and deeming one product to be superior with any actual setup or testing being performed. You simply can not compare displays with "out of the box settings". Well you can it's just the comparison will be grossly inaccurate and misleading. You have to calibrate them in order to see how the differing backlights affect the I/PQ.

I'm not going to post a camera shot though as I am currently on a TN panel and the camera I have laying around adds a nasty tint to the pictures it takes. To be fair, your camera could be exaggerating the tint and the washout a bit but if that camera shot you posted is close to what you are actually seeing both displays need to be calibrated as the tint on both is off. What are the model numbers?
    
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Oh and the resolution would be 2560 x 1440 <-- (If that matters)

At that resolution 99.9% of all monitors are LED so there isn't really a choice. There is a an alledged CCFL one that showed up on ebay but it may have a matte panel . Wage ordered one but then changed his mind and got something else instead. I only know of one other user that ordered the one that's supposed to be CCFL but they are over on [H} and haven't received/posted about it thus far.
    
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