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Not true just looks better I'm sure there are some better cooling , but I have the H 100 on my 2500k @ 4.5 ghz and on full load it only get to 46c thats really good. Plus with theses custom kit if you don't get it all right you get a leak or something your screwed.
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Dont sweat your cooler these guys just like all that fancy stuff and h80 h100 has very cooling.

Custom watercooling loops are in a whole different category compared to all in one loops. They just don't compare, if you want really good cooling, you go custom water. all in one stuff is about on par with high end air, the H100 competing with the top air coolers.

OT: Looks like a solid rig, I might have gone with a different cooler (read: custom) but if you don't need it then there's no point. Besides that's something you can always change pretty easy. Also pics of the beast are required when you get the parts! thumb.gif
 
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I was previously running a TRI Crossfire setup with my 6950 unlocked 2 6970's with my 2600k. @ 4.5ghz they were being slightly bottlenecked.. My friend has the 3930k and I seen him run his 6950 setup (same as mine) with the 3930k at stock and it was pulling more GPU usage than mine was. I think that was a pretty obvious answer.... the 3930k 6cores are beasts.... It actually benches better than all of the SB chips... So I don't see how you can say it will hinder my gaming capabilities(no offense). it's the best available right now.. And honestly I think the IVY series are going to be the new moderate tier of intel... like SB was... And the temp situation is not necessarily true. The 2011 cpu's run very hot compared to 1155. My job requires me to use a lot of rendering software as well... One of the main reasons I wanted a 6 core processor

You were likely bottlenecked by the fact that your Sandy Bridge board only allows your cards to be run at 8x/4x/4x. Sandy bridge only has 16 PCI-Express lanes. Sandy Bridge-E will allow you to run at 16x/8x/8x, as it has 40 lanes available.

Your anecdotal "I seen my friend" results aren't really conclusive. There aren't any games out there that will take advantage of 6 cores vs 4 cores. You might see some that take advantage of the increased cache (WoW, etc), but that's about it.

It certainly is the "best available" right now in terms of multi-threaded applications, heavy rendering workloads, benchmarking (hyperthreading w/ 12 cores), but you seem to have conveniently ignored the fact that it is a ring bus running on 6 cores - if you don't understand this you should probably check out a few references on the subject.

SB-E is only slightly better core-for-core, and if you aren't overclocking it any further than 4.2, you won't actually get any of the benefits - a similar sandy bridge chip will hit 4.5 effortlessly, and up to 5.0 and beyond. You will have trouble passing 4.7 or so without hitting thermal barriers with SB-E.

Single/Multi-Threaded Benchmarks:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5091/intel-core-i7-3960x-sandy-bridge-e-review-keeping-the-high-end-alive/5

If you came here to brag and show off your credit limit, I understand. But if you came here to receive critiques and suggestions on your build and ideas to get more for your money, we're all here to help. I just simply don't believe you got your money's worth in this case.

Summary for tl;dr:

You'd be much better off spending your cash on supporting components (WC loop, or case that's better for air-oriented cooling, Sandy/Ivy Bridge parts that suit your needs better, etc)
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You were likely bottlenecked by the fact that your Sandy Bridge board only allows your cards to be run at 8x/4x/4x. Sandy bridge only has 16 PCI-Express lanes. Sandy Bridge-E will allow you to run at 16x/8x/8x, as it has 40 lanes available.
Your anecdotal "I seen my friend" results aren't really conclusive. There aren't any games out there that will take advantage of 6 cores vs 4 cores. You might see some that take advantage of the increased cache (WoW, etc), but that's about it.
It certainly is the "best available" right now in terms of multi-threaded applications, heavy rendering workloads, benchmarking (hyperthreading w/ 12 cores), but you seem to have conveniently ignored the fact that it is a ring bus running on 6 cores - if you don't understand this you should probably check out a few references on the subject.
SB-E is only slightly better core-for-core, and if you aren't overclocking it any further than 4.2, you won't actually get any of the benefits - a similar sandy bridge chip will hit 4.5 effortlessly, and up to 5.0 and beyond. You will have trouble passing 4.7 or so without hitting thermal barriers with SB-E.
Single/Multi-Threaded Benchmarks:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5091/intel-core-i7-3960x-sandy-bridge-e-review-keeping-the-high-end-alive/5
If you came here to brag and show off your credit limit, I understand. But if you came here to receive critiques and suggestions on your build and ideas to get more for your money, we're all here to help. I just simply don't believe you got your money's worth in this case.
Summary for tl;dr:
You'd be much better off spending your cash on supporting components (WC loop, or case that's better for air-oriented cooling, Sandy/Ivy Bridge parts that suit your needs better, etc)

#1 it's not on credit or for bragging rights. I posted this because it's what this forum section is for.... and I happen to be a member of this forum. Stop trying to be condescending. As far as the components go.... I already stated throughout this thread the reason I am buying what I bought.... If you can't comprehend nuances of excess use then I don't think I need to say anything else... Everything I have purchased will be sufficient... for my uses and gaming... As far as SB vs SB-E... you already proved my point. Explain to me the difference of getting a dual core vs quad in gaming, or better yet, quid pro quo the benevolent "if" factor. The fact that you stated a SB will surpass 4.5-5.0ghz with ease is absurd. This is probably the first time I've ever heard this. The only hope of getting a decent SB chip is by going with the i5 2500k or i7 2700k. I've went through 3 SB chips and was lucky to get to 4.5 without using an insane amount of voltage (1 i5, 2x i7).. and also had stability issues... The SB-E (like you said) opens the PCI-E lanes up to an almost optimal step. this goes for a lot of consumers of the SB. The mobo I chose has a lot of features that probably won't matter, but it looks very durable... which is the main thing.. and core vs core it is a better processor.. that is all that matters... like I said, my sweet spot is @ 4.2ghz... and the corsair h80 will be entirely efficient for my usage.... and tbh this case is efficient - but I decided to go with the xigmatek alysium, because of said suggestions.
I'm not hating, but just stating facts... You can run an air filtered system efficiently and have optimal longjevity as compared to a watercooling system, but without having to go through as much maintenance and extra costs of equipment... I'm not wanting to overclock like a beast... I don't care... I do need 6 cores... I'm an Engineer for the city of Chattanooga, and I use CAD frequently. I've always wanted more than 2 gfx cards.. never had the best of anything... I actually have the funds to do so... Life has been good lately. I'm splurging.

P.S. If anything, judging by your PC... Why would you have a 3930k and 2x 5870's... bro

AND

for everyone saying a custom water loop is better hands down needs to see some charts... A lot of the temps have to do with ambient temps + heat spreading... If you like a case and it doesn't have factory support for a tripple rad then going with a closed modular loop is not a bad option.. It's better than air.. And a lot of these custom water loops with huge heat spreading capabilities only benefit from max load temps... to be a true beast of the art of cooling put a f*n air-conditioner in your pc. It's also probably cheaper to mod one of these to fit components such as a GFX card + CPU having 2 modular closed loops in your system, and be more cost efficient w/ equal or better temps. Like a lot have said.. Doing a full loop with all of your shiny what-nots only makes a reasonable person believe it's for the anesthetic side of geekology
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Congrats on the new stuff bro!!

But its cool guys and girls. He just wants to show off his toys and act like he know everything is always right while at the same time not considering what others are saying.. Just leave him be and let him heat up his new toys the way he wants to and when they get too hot and things start to happen then you can say "i told you so"
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Congrats on the new stuff bro!!
But its cool guys and girls. He just wants to show off his toys and act like he know everything is always right while at the same time not considering what others are saying.. Just leave him be and let him heat up his new toys the way he wants to and when they get too hot and things start to happen then you can say "i told you so"

If only.. If only this were true... I've been building for 13 years :/ and I have put together a lot of water cooled PC's.. It's actually how I put myself through college. I wouldn't argue with someone about a specific topic if they were actually right.
    
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Custom watercooling loops are in a whole different category compared to all in one loops. They just don't compare, if you want really good cooling, you go custom water. all in one stuff is about on par with high end air, the H100 competing with the top air coolers.
OT: Looks like a solid rig, I might have gone with a different cooler (read: custom) but if you don't need it then there's no point. Besides that's something you can always change pretty easy. Also pics of the beast are required when you get the parts! thumb.gif[/quote

So what the temp differences on a custom setup.
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Custom watercooling loops are in a whole different category compared to all in one loops. They just don't compare, if you want really good cooling, you go custom water. all in one stuff is about on par with high end air, the H100 competing with the top air coolers.
OT: Looks like a solid rig, I might have gone with a different cooler (read: custom) but if you don't need it then there's no point. Besides that's something you can always change pretty easy. Also pics of the beast are required when you get the parts! :thumb



So what the temp differences on a custom setup.


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