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post #11 of 20
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I was thinking the Storm Spawn looked to have a funky shape to be held with fingertips.

The Kinzu Looks fine, very simplistic. However, The images all make it look very glossy, Does it not have any rubberized coating?

The Zowie though... Ugh, I think I want it but I don't have the budget right now with a mouse pad. I'd feel bad putting that mouse on my rag too...

I will have to take time to mold some reasons for a decision before I purchase one.

I think though, I may end up with the Zowie AM. It almost reminds me of how excited I was when I got my first black special edition 1.1a. ( deceased )
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- Zowie AM :
---Can be fingertipped/clawed/palmed (which comes to the price of not being as comfortable as other mice).

I wont really touch the mouse with my hand, think this wont matter for comfort?

---Awesome mouse cord
---Lightweight
---Weird CPI steps (450,1150, 2300 CPI, which are higher in reality, closer to 480, 1200, 2340 CPI)
---Harder mouse switches than other mice

This should help with miss-clicks. I hold on the buttons close to the rear of the button to solve this on the Salmosa.

---5 buttons
---Best used on a dark mousepad

Good, Colors and brightness are distracting.

---Jitters more the higher the CPI (none on 450, very slight on 1150, slight on 2300)
---Driverless (that could be a big pro if you love this on the Salmosa)

I did like this idea, however with a child I don't get to events much so my mouse is always on the same machine.

---On the 450CPI step, the PCS is around 3.3-3.6m/s

Other questions:

Just one, Does the Zowie AM have a rubberized coating? I should have mentioned Its kind of a must for my relaxed grip, It makes it easier to pick up the mouse without having to really grab it.
Edited by Xinoxide - 4/7/12 at 9:12pm
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by Xinoxide View Post

I was thinking the Storm Spawn looked to have a funky shape to be held with fingertips.

It's just another option, in case you might wanna claw grip some mouse smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Xinoxide View Post

The Kinzu Looks fine, very simplistic. However, The images all make it look very glossy, Does it not have any rubberized coating?

It is not a bad mouse, but I don't know if with your sensitivity you would be able to use it properly, without skipping.
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Originally Posted by Xinoxide View Post

The Zowie though... Ugh, I think I want it but I don't have the budget right now with a mouse pad. I'd feel bad putting that mouse on my rag too...
I will have to take time to mold some reasons for a decision before I purchase one.
I think though, I may end up with the Zowie AM. It almost reminds me of how excited I was when I got my first black special edition 1.1a. ( deceased )

Be weary, the AM doesn't come problem free and there are several "issues" with it :
- Mouse4 can be activated if enough pressure is made on the side of the mouse (shouldn't happen on normal use but... Who goes by normal use?)
- Very low LOD (you lift it a bit, and WHAM! It doesn't track anymore)
- If you get one of the versions from old batches, you may have buttons overlapping (it's easy to fix with a cutter or sandpaper, I did that to mine no problem)
- When I say the switches are stiffer, I mean stiffer. Yes, it's very difficult to over-click with the AM but you need the strength on the fingers to not to under-click.
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Originally Posted by Xinoxide View Post

Quote:
- Zowie AM :
---Can be fingertipped/clawed/palmed (which comes to the price of not being as comfortable as other mice).
I wont really touch the mouse with my hand, think this wont matter for comfort?
---Awesome mouse cord
---Lightweight
---Weird CPI steps (450,1150, 2300 CPI, which are higher in reality, closer to 480, 1200, 2340 CPI)
---Harder mouse switches than other mice
This should help with miss-clicks. I hold on the buttons close to the rear of the button to solve this on the Salmosa.

Yes, if we're going to compare, almost all Razer mice feel like they have mushy buttons after using the AM.
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Originally Posted by Xinoxide View Post

---5 buttons
---Best used on a dark mousepad
Good, Colors and brightness are distracting.

Trouble is that it does literally NOT track on a brightly coloured mousemat. However, that's a problem to some people or with certain mousepads.
Anyway, the AM should track on cloth and plastic mousepads no problem, as long as they're not in bright colors.
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Originally Posted by Xinoxide View Post

---Jitters more the higher the CPI (none on 450, very slight on 1150, slight on 2300)
---Driverless (that could be a big pro if you love this on the Salmosa)
I did like this idea, however with a child I don't get to events much so my mouse is always on the same machine.

It's a great idea, but implemented in a way that feels better on the Salmosa. For example, to change polling rate (Hz), you need to unplug the mouse and hit one of the side buttons (or both) while plugging it in, so it changes and stays that way until you change it again. CPI is being switched by a button under the mouse. It's not as straightforward as a selecting switch but it's quite ok if you don't change settings all the time. I never found it an inconvinience while using the AM, but I certainly don't change settings much, and since I got the Abyssus the AM just disappeared out of my mind tongue.gif (*)
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Originally Posted by Xinoxide View Post

---On the 450CPI step, the PCS is around 3.3-3.6m/s
Other questions:
Just one, Does the Zowie AM have a rubberized coating? I should have mentioned Its kind of a must for my relaxed grip, It makes it easier to pick up the mouse without having to really grab it.

There are two versions of the Zowie AM :
- Regular AM is rubber coated all over the mouse (but the underside and a small plastic tip).
- Version AM-GS has glossy sides and rubberized top - similar to your Salmosa, a DeathAdder...

Another couple of things worth noting is that the AM is ambidextrous and that it weights around 87gr, quite a bit heavier than the Salmosa (should be less than 60) but not nearly as much as many other popular mice (like the DA, Mx518 and most of the palm grip mice), so the lightweight part was stated because it is one of the most lightweight mice compared to most gaming ones (however the Kinzu v2 and the Kana are also very lightweight).

(*) : Reason why I switched to an Abyssus is because my sensitivity is 60cm/350 ~ 24in/360º, and more often than not I make very fast mouse swipes over 3.5m/s up to over 4m/s, so the AM sensor, coupled with the custom lens, couldn't keep up with such movements. I was very happy with the AM until I was able to make it skip constantly by making those fast swipes. However, if I hadn't bought that mouse, I probably wouldn't have ever gotten to the point of needing more speed, so it did really help to improve my aim consistency at the time and I kinda look at it with pity that it can't serve me any longer. I also was excited about the mouse and I really liked it until the time when I replaced it with the Abyssus.

PS : As unlikely as it might be, try to test the shape of the AM on someone else's AM, if you have the chance. The shape is very special, some people feels it's comfortable, some people doesn't stand it at all.
Edited by DeMS - 4/7/12 at 11:25pm
post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 
I might try the Abyssus first then, given these faults. I know I can get that one locally too so it would be the easiest to return if I don't like it.
post #14 of 20
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I might try the Abyssus first then, given these faults. I know I can get that one locally too so it would be the easiest to return if I don't like it.

That would be the most sensible choice provided you can return it. Also, you might adapt in no time.

I recommend you check out this website when you get your Abbyssus to adapt your sensitivity to the new CPI steps of the mouse : clicky.
post #15 of 20
Thread Starter 
So, I talked to my buddy Prophet, who ends up being Ramla777. He has notified me of the badassery that is the Abyssus, So I think I'll definitely go that route.
post #16 of 20
I recommend the R.A.T. Just check it out.
post #17 of 20
Thread Starter 
Looks like the Giant Mouse of Minsk.
post #18 of 20
The razer abyssus has no switch for 800 dpi ,but it have 425dpi,1800dpi and 3500 dpi.
Ofcourse you can change windows to 4 on 11 slider to get half the speed from 1800 that comes close to your older mouse speed.
Abyssus good mouse for fingertip almost identical shape only buttons closer to bottom of the mouse.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by pruik6 View Post

The razer abyssus has no switch for 800 dpi ,but it have 425dpi,1800dpi and 3500 dpi.
Ofcourse you can change windows to 4 on 11 slider to get half the speed from 1800 that comes close to your older mouse speed.
Abyssus good mouse for fingertip almost identical shape only buttons closer to bottom of the mouse.

Lowering your windows sensitivity slider is not recommended.
Abyssus lower CPI setting is 450, not 425.
On Abyssus it would be easier to put it on 450 and bump a little bit higher the in-game sensitivity, or, if possible, use 1800CPI and lower the in-game sens - as long as it doesn't get below 1.
post #20 of 20
Thread Starter 
I am sure I can find something comfortable.
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