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I dunno guys, touch keyboard are pretty sweet. But only if you have Swype on them wink.gif

But realistically, for me anyway, keyboards > touch.

And about the study, I've started to take a liking to the tablets that have keyboard docks. They seriously rock
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Why wouldn't people say they want more features that are clearly advantageos coming from the touchscreen dominant smartphone sector? I was all for it until I actually got my touchscreen acer laptop (specs in my profile) and found it under used.

The problem is that in practice on traditional L-shaped laptops, it really is just a gimick, it is not precise as a mouse without a stylus, as a student and gamer, I never really found much use for it, sometimes it is nice to scroll through a page with your fingers if only to show off your touchscreen laptop, but a scroll wheel and two finger scroll on the pad is much more ergonomic.

A laptop tablet + stylus however is very useful for taking digital notes, less paper, more organization, pair it with dropbox and you are set all semester. If you need to start taking typed notes, you can simply tranform your tablet back into a laptop!

Asus Tranformer + swivel screen + pressure screen for stylus + trinity + win7 = win

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I dunno guys, touch keyboard are pretty sweet. But only if you have Swype on them wink.gif
But realistically, for me anyway, keyboards > touch.
And about the study, I've started to take a liking to the tablets that have keyboard docks. They seriously rock
But swype on large OSD keyboards = major suckage. The large distance you have to travel across the OSD keyboard coupled with the fact that you can more-easily touch-type on larger OSD keyboards since the keys are larger (and less-likely to hit the wrong key) negates the advantages of swype. On small screens, I agree--swype all the way.
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Why wouldn't people say they want more features that are clearly advantageos coming from the touchscreen dominant smartphone sector? I was all for it until I actually got my touchscreen acer laptop (specs in my profile) and found it under used.
The problem is that in practice on traditional L-shaped laptops, it really is just a gimick, it is not precise as a mouse without a stylus, as a student and gamer, I never really found much use for it, sometimes it is nice to scroll through a page with your fingers if only to show off your touchscreen laptop, but a scroll wheel and two finger scroll on the pad is much more ergonomic.
A laptop tablet + stylus however is very useful for taking digital notes, less paper, more organization, pair it with dropbox and you are set all semester. If you need to start taking typed notes, you can simply tranform your tablet back into a laptop!
Asus Tranformer + swivel screen + pressure screen for stylus + trinity + win7 = win
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I would think price to be the main reason. I wouldn't want to pay $50 or $100 more for a touch-screen on a traditional laptop with a non-touch-oriented OS UI. The reason why touchscreen input works okay for smartphones is because the UI is designed around (and in fact almost requires) a touch-input. Maybe if windows 8 gains traction, this will change for laptops--don't know.

Re. taking digital notes--I don't disagree, but I would never use the tablets out right now to do that--I mean, android tablets. One all-too-common app crash and there goes all of your notes for that lecture. Windows...might be a different story. But I don't know--maybe I'm too old-school, I'd rather stick with hard-copy notes. Too many issues with digital media that you could relatively easily lose your progress. Then again, I also took a lot of science classes where a lot of the notes weren't just outlines of words/concepts--lots of equations and working through example calculations.

But of course that's not the case for everyone. I wonder if the tech. were a bit more-developed that I'd feel differently.
    
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I honestly don't know about this- that laptop they are showing lags constantly in the video shown, like 5+ times she swiped or "touched" and it didn't respond and she had to do it again...

And that seems to be my trouble with touch screens in general the tech just isn't accurate yet... I have a Transformer Prime that's pretty accurate but even that seems to struggle really recognizing human interaction on a "pixel" level of accuracy - whereas a mouse does this perfectly ... even the crappiest mechanical ball mouse does it.

Of course there is the stylus option but then that interrupts the transition between screen and keyboard- and at that rate- you may as well use a mouse because frankly the whole point of touch interfaces was to eliminate the need for another physical device to interact with the computer..
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I'm speechless. This can only have one explanation: Intel is going to try to make the best out of Windows 8, since it appears that colossal mistake called Metro is going forward anyway for desktops and laptops, and Intel needs their partners to sell computers. In any other circumstance I can't imagine Intel taking their test subjects' answers literally. People want touch because it's fashionable, it looks cool and appears to be intuitive. More features, more features. People always want more features. Will they use it on a regular basis ? Of course not.
I seriously have to question the validity of the study itself, I very much doubt they conducted it for a meaningful period of time. The screen tilts back and forward when you touch it, smudges are left in it, your hand being in the air without support will make the user go back to the keyboard and / or touchpad / mouse after a while because while fun, it's tiring do to that. And then it's just not practical. Imagine you're reading a forum like this. Having your finger on the keyboard or touchpad or mouse and scrolling downwards or upwards is a lot more ergonomic and fast because your hands are resting, they have support and you don't need to raise your hand every single time you want to scroll down. That action she does scrolling down Twitter is completely unrealistc, people only do that on smartphones because the screen can be in an almost horizontal or even horizontal position and they have the other hand holding it.

^
My thoughts exactly.......

.......I have to agree with pretty much every concern in this thread. I like having my smartphone, its a nice thing to orientate via touch input. Its easy and its fast, much faster and better then my old W810i for example.

But i have to say i will not use such feature when it comes to laptops. I personally dont find it comfortable to touch the screen when it comes to 17,3 inch screens.
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The touch screen feature is a nice touch..

Pun intended?

Honestly if the monitor could turn around and fold down so it covered the keyboard while the screen was facing upward it might be a nice to have a fairly thin laptop double as a tablet.
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Pun intended?
Honestly if the monitor could turn around and fold down so it covered the keyboard while the screen was facing upward it might be a nice to have a fairly thin laptop double as a tablet.

IF, you say well, if. The problem seems like because Microsoft is acting ridiculous by wanting to ship Windows 8 with the Metro interface for laptops and desktops, if Intel wants their partners to sell computers, it has to play along with Microsoft. And that is the problem: they are trying to sell you a conventional laptop - at least that is what the video is about - with a touchscreen, which is just as ridiculous as Metro for a desktop, and a laptop that does not have a swivel screen.
 
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You guys ever used an ASUS transformer while it's docked?

I find I use the touch screen pretty often, actually. Even in places that aren't in the Android UI, like websites.

I don't use it all the time, but sometimes it's nice to be able to just tap directly where you want to click instead of moving the mouse. In fact, I foresee undockable tablets like the transformer becoming the norm with Windows 8.
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Lets all jump the touchscreen bandwagon. I just have a feeling people will enjoy the gimmick for about oh lets say 3 1 month on their brand new touch screen laptops, until they realized it isnt worth it. Finger prints everywhere, the unnecessary reaching over the laptop to press something, when the keyboard and touchpad is less then a few inches away. They can remove the keyboard and touchpad from a laptop but then itll be a tablet.
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A reliable touch screen convertible laptop running on windows 7 would have certainly saved my past 3 years of university a lot of paper, especially math courses where we'd regularly use 8 to 10 pages in a 50 minute session. Not to mention losing notes would become non-existent and sharing notes would become as easy as copy/paste, instead of having to scan 10 pages for my friends who miss class hmmsmiley02.gif

In my first year in university I quickly found organizing and storing paper from 5 different courses to be quite a hassle, especially with many courses that were purely note taking, no slides (or no slides provided), I looked into getting the described notebook above, but the only things I could find weren't exactly cheap or long lasting in battery life, i.e. the HP tx1000.

Considering the number of higher education students in North America, I'd expect there to be a large market for these types of notebooks, and with the increased production in touchscreens, the improvements in LED technology and lower power consuming processors, I think it would be a viable market for major laptop manufacturers to pursue.

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Lets all jump the touchscreen bandwagon. I just have a feeling people will enjoy the gimmick for about oh lets say 3 1 month on their brand new touch screen laptops, until they realized it isnt worth it. Finger prints everywhere, the unnecessary reaching over the laptop to press something, when the keyboard and touchpad is less then a few inches away. They can remove the keyboard and touchpad from a laptop but then itll be a tablet.

Lol, that's exactly what happen with my Acer laptop, although I didn't actually know it was touch screen until after purchasing it.biggrin.gif
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MonitorMonitorPowerCase
[ASUS VS197D-P 18.5"] [ONN 19" LCD HDTV] [Antec Basiq VP-450] [Cooler Master Elite 343] 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[i7-3770K 4.5GHz @1.24V] [Asrock Z77 Extreme4] [unlocked Sapphire 6950 Toxic 940/1425 @ 1.175V] [2x8GB Kingston HyperX Black 1800MHz 10-10-10-2... 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
[256GB Samsung 840 Pro] [2x 3TB Green WD30EZRX JBOD] [Corsair H100i] [Windows 7 Pro 64-bit] 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
[23.6" Asus VE247H] [Razer BlackWidow] [Corsair HX850] [Corsair Carbide 500R White] 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
[Logitech G400] [SteelSeries QcK+] [SteelSeries Siberia V2 Headset] [Zalman ZM-MIC 1 Microphone] 
AudioAudioOtherOther
[Logitech X-540 5.1 Speaker] [Logitech S220 2.1 Speaker] [Bitfenix Recon Fan Controller] [TRENDnet TEW-684UB] 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
[AMD A6-3400M 2.35GHz @ 1.0875V] [AMD HD 6650M] [2x4GB Corsair Vengence 1333MHz 9-8-8-8 @ 1.5V] [500GB Seagate 5400rpm] 
Optical DriveOSMonitorMouse
[DVD Slimdrive] [Windows 8 Pro 64-bit] [15.6" LED backlight LCD] [Logitech M305] 
Audio
[Nokia Mini-Speakers MD-8] 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[Athlon II X2 215 3.4GHz @ 1.4V] [Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P (rev3.1)] [XFX 8600GT XXX 256MB GDDR3] [2x2GB G.skill Ripjaws-X 1333 7-7-7-20 @ 1.5V] 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
[500GB WD Blue] [LG 24X DVD-Writer] [Hyper TX3] [Windows 7 64-bit] 
MonitorMonitorPowerCase
[ASUS VS197D-P 18.5"] [ONN 19" LCD HDTV] [Antec Basiq VP-450] [Cooler Master Elite 343] 
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