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What voltage is the BIOS set to when getting those readings? Just so I can kinda scale those numbers with my voltages. I'm using 1.33v in BIOS, extreme LLC, 1.5 PLL @ 4.7GHz (47x100)
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One thing that may get the voltage down now is to use a lower LLC,
But to use DVID Just set vcore to "normal" then you can type in the offset. Start out with something like +.010, and set LLC to High. Depending on how your cpu reacts from there you can either up the DVID or up the LLC. Those settings are good enough for a stable x45 clock for me, but every cpu is different. My vcore max 1.260-1.272 depending on how I set it up.
I usually monitor with HWINFO, there is 32 & 64bit versions and seems to respond to vcore changes faster than some other monitoring programs. All I run is the sensor panel and I configure it so it only shows what I want it to so I can fit it all onscreen.
EDIT: I also use Real Temp to monitor temps.

setting LLC to high or turbo and using +.010 gives me a vcore in cpu-z of 1.38 going to get a multi meter today on the way home from work done with programs after seeing they aren't accurate.

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Have you tried HWINFO? It gets regular updates. http://www.hwinfo.com/
I'm in Suwannee County, near Live Oak for last 30 years, but Lakeland is my home town.

Suwannee is very nice, use to go camping there on the river.

how do I remove stuff I don't want from the sensors page of hwinfo?

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Well the GB boards have no problem giving you the best OC out of your CPU. I would get the UD3H over the D3H if not only because of all the OC features you gain, such as the buttons, the voltage read points, the POST code, the extra power connectors. It is a much better board for high OCes. However the 4-pin power connector wont hurt your OC>
Default spec is 100.00 with a +/- certain percentage range, something like .1-.2%. in retro spec i actually think it is +/- 5-7% for OC, so 107mhz. But i can push 115 on all the GB boards smile.gif, that is some fine tuning. At stock there is a BCLK swing from the clock gen inside the chipset which naturally occurs, that is why you se ethe BCLK go up and down 0.03mhz somtimes. As the chipset provides the base clock, and its clock gen varies up and down. As for the new BIOS updates which should release soon. when the BCLK is set to auto it will be closer to 100.00. Right now if you go int on the BIOS change change it from auto to manual ti will set 100.00 exactly, on auto it gives you a slight boost.
The lockups, honestly mate, if you knew how many boards have sold since day 1 you would think the percentage of people complaining would be very small. Also the BSOD thing is also related to software, which is pretty odd. If you don't have windows 7 updated then you can be at risk, which i think accounts for many of these issues. Also other boards have this issues as well, their just aren't many buyers compared to the GB boards, because of their price and the price of the competitor, many more users are buying GB this round than last. I have seen reports from the asus P8Z77-V series of the idle BSOD, I actually saw one on these forums, but i can't find the post again, perhaps it was in their mega thread. I had this happen with a 2500K of mine on one of my UD5Hs, however I did a lot of testing, the idle BSOD after optimized defaults were loaded only occurs at stock and is totally software related, and I found out doesn't occur in Windows XP. My issue was that my Windows 7 wasn't updated at all...... So there can be two problems, one software related and one with the BCLK OC that GB provides at stock, the BCLK will be taken care of very soon. The software one tho, that is up to the user.
However if you have this issue it could also be that there are a batch of early boards that exhibit this, in that case RMA the board and GB will send you one without issue.
You aren't super lucky, you are just part of the 98% who don't have the issue at all. GB knows what is causing 90% of the BSODs at stock and that is the BCLK, so thus in newer BIOS updates the BCLK will be closer to what ASUS has set, i think 100.1 or 100.3 instead of 100.7. You wont see many more people complain of it.
THere is also this, which has been bothering me, a lot of people have degraded sandy bridge CPUs, some CPUs especially sandy which degrades super quickly, loses its ability to be stable in stock conditions. THis could have happened to my 2500K, but i doubt it.
No I am not an EE, i just had a basic education in circuit engineering, like 100 level courses. You can read this: http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/398938/INTERSIL/ISL6366.html a lot of datasheets for PWMs are very informative. That one i linked has a VRM design guide in it lol, but that is Intersil and analog PWm maker, but the PWM is only a chip, the rest of the VRM should be the same for digital and analog.
Offset give you lower idle vcore, your load vcore will be the same or higher as you don't actually know what your VID is.
You wont.
You need to set LLC man, you have to for Intel CPU OC, is it like a requirment. Some boards have LLC set on auto to a high level, here ithink if you set DVID LLC is engaged at a medium level.
Also you guys aren't measuring from the read points I see, please look below: THis is voltage comparison of CPU-z(Fake) vs digital multimeter(real), you can see extreme is actually raising your voltage while cpuz is reporting lower vcore. Please watch out for this, cpuz sucks for voltage readings, that is why GB put on voltage read points. Digital multimeters are so simple to use, they cost nothing($5-$10) and they are hundreds of times more accurate than software, in all cases on all boards. Depending on the LLC leve it can be okay to use CPUz or it might not be.
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great info going to grab a multi meter and test it out myself, I'm pretty happy with my 1.308 (cpu-z) with temps under 70 @ load.

should I try and mess with offset, I still don't really understand it fully, or the full benefits.
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Your DVID is based on your chip's VID which is what decides your auto/dynamic Vcore, and it's a little different on each chip. So your offset of +0.005 doesn't tell us what your actual Vcore is, and it might be real high based on the temps.
For example, if I set Turbo LLC and that same DVID at 4.5 offset my Vcore is 1.23v---I bet that's not what you get.
To your case cooling; just don't use the case. Not until you know how well you cooler works on its own, which you probably have no idea about right now.
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Sorry, I meant to include the VCore as reported by CPU-Z. It fluctuates between 1.224 and 1.236V under full load. Unfortunately I don't have time to remove everything from the case to see what my temps look like. I'll probably invest in some nice, quiet case fans. My exhaust fan pushes a lot of air but it's pretty whiny and lately it has been driving me nuts. Any recommendations for nice, quiet 120mm fans?
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Hello all,

I have just put together my rig, along with the UD5H, and I'm running into a problem where the mobo will recognize my 1TB HDD in the BIOS, but not my Mushkin 128GB SSD. I have made sure the SATA cables are connected, as well as the power connector from the power supply, but to no avail. I don't believe there is a difference between the blue SATA cables and the black ones, just the ports where they are plugged in.

I really want both drives recognized because I want to install Windows on the SSD.

The motherboard BIOS is not updated at all, this is a stock mobo. TO be honest, I had to remove my graphics card in order to even get the BIOS to show on my monitor.

Any help to get my SSD recognized would be awesome!

Thank you!
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Got some interesting results from my LLC experiment. When I had LLC on Auto, vcore manually set to 1.135v, 40x multiplier I was failing Prime95 Large FFT within 4 hours. Now with LLC on Extreme, vcore 1.135v, 40x multiplier I can do Large FFT for 12 hours. What's strange is that I tested the vcore with a multimeter and on load it was a fairly consistent 1.150v so I wasn't getting the temperature benefit of the lowered vcore. On idle it was 1.140v. I thought that raising your LLC was supposed to make the vcore consistent with your manual setting? This is with all other settings on default except for Intel Turbo Boost is disabled. I believe I was still about 5C lower than if I had vcore and LLC on Auto so I am making a little progress.
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Hello all,
I have just put together my rig, along with the UD5H, and I'm running into a problem where the mobo will recognize my 1TB HDD in the BIOS, but not my Mushkin 128GB SSD. I have made sure the SATA cables are connected, as well as the power connector from the power supply, but to no avail. I don't believe there is a difference between the blue SATA cables and the black ones, just the ports where they are plugged in.
I really want both drives recognized because I want to install Windows on the SSD.
The motherboard BIOS is not updated at all, this is a stock mobo. TO be honest, I had to remove my graphics card in order to even get the BIOS to show on my monitor.
Any help to get my SSD recognized would be awesome!
Thank you!
Is the SSD showing under ATA Port Information on the System page of the BIOS?

Crap, I wasn't thinking, sorry for double posting yet again.
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No, it isn't showing at all under ATA Port information on the system page on the BIOS.

I'm thinking it may be something dumb, like I may have plugged a SATA power connector in, but there is no power going into it...I don't know!
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No, it isn't showing at all under ATA Port information on the system page on the BIOS.
I'm thinking it may be something dumb, like I may have plugged a SATA power connector in, but there is no power going into it...I don't know!
I can't help you then, I had a thing where my SSD was showing under Info but not in Boot priority and I figured out that you have to set your preferred SSD/HDD under Hard Drive BBS Priorities for it to show as a boot option. Thought that could be your issue, hope you get it figured out before long.
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Is there any way to get the vcore to drop when the cpu clock speed drops when in idle? My CPU is running 1.27 vcore 24/7 even when it is idle and downclocked to 1600mhz
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No, it isn't showing at all under ATA Port information on the system page on the BIOS.
I'm thinking it may be something dumb, like I may have plugged a SATA power connector in, but there is no power going into it...I don't know!

I had my ssd disappear on me once, there is a setting in the bios I changed and it showed up. I'll let you know in a few hours when I get home. Also, do you have the SATA set to AHCI?

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Is there any way to get the vcore to drop when the cpu clock speed drops when in idle? My CPU is running 1.27 vcore 24/7 even when it is idle and downclocked to 1600mhz

You have to use dynamic vcore for the voltage to scale with the clock speed. Set your vcore to "normal" which will unlock the dynamic option right under it. What you want to do with that is add a little bit of voltage, just enough to keep your chip stable. It adds however much voltage you select on top of the chip's VID so if you add too much the voltage will be too high. I've seen a few people with your chip in the past couple pages using Dynamic voltage, maybe you can get an idea of how much you want there. I have SB so mine is a little different.
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