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What I need to know..Is the 3570K a lot better than the 2500K or only slightly?


3570K is ~ 7% faster than 2500K, @ the same clocks for example both @ 4.5GHz the difference would be even less, probably ~ 5%..

On the other hand iGPU HD4000 on the 3570K is ~ 40% faster than iGPU on 2500K..


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Ok so after the whole boot loop issue ect, I have now decided to wait for Ivy Bridge cpu's to arrive.
Quick question, I am sure some of you guys have gotten your hands on some Ivy cpu's. What I need to know..Is the 3570K a lot better than the 2500K or only slightly?

I haven't had any boot looping issues since I updated the BIOS to F6i, and I'm currently using an i5 2500k.
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Afternoon all

Just been having a look round my new Gigabyte Z77X-D3H bios and i came across this under the PC health status "PCH temperature 56c" I have never seen this before on my other boards but the 56c it was reporting on did make me wonder what the hell is it? My CPU temp according to the bios was 26c and the motherboard temp was showing 30c. On my desktop core temp was showing my CPU at 26c stock speed at idle and my 7850 was at 28c.

Any idea what this PCH temperature is?

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PCh is the chipset, don't worry about it, it tends to run hot on these boards but makes no difference overall

Yea there should be no boot loop after BIOS F6I for the UD5H and the same BIOS release time for all other boards. Poeple don't listen or trust, but FYi if you still do have a boot loop, then something else is wrong and its not the board.
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PCh is the chipset, don't worry about it, it tends to run hot on these boards but makes no difference overall
Yea there should be no boot loop after BIOS F6I for the UD5H and the same BIOS release time for all other boards. Poeple don't listen or trust, but FYi if you still do have a boot loop, then something else is wrong and its not the board.

Mine are def board issues. I have spoken to the supplier and they will be swapping them out 1st thing tomorrow morning.
I've had the exact same experience with a Asus P67 board...so it seems the boot loop from Sandy remains. Maybe not as frequent as it was but it still seems to be there.
    
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PCh is the chipset, don't worry about it, it tends to run hot on these boards but makes no difference overall
Yea there should be no boot loop after BIOS F6I for the UD5H and the same BIOS release time for all other boards. Poeple don't listen or trust, but FYi if you still do have a boot loop, then something else is wrong and its not the board.

Can you explain what a boot loop is? I think I still have this on my setup. Thanks!
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I will be getting UD5H to pair it up with my 2500K. Will i have any problem? What is this talk about boot loops and sleep, PLL Overvoltage?
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Okay there are no boot loops like there were on Z68, if you have a boot loop like Z68 did then you would be so annoyed that you would know exactly what it is.

With BIOS F6I and later there was an issue just with the 2600K, not 2500K, where the board would turn on and off like 3 to 7 times and the boot right up like nothing happened with your OC present, that still isn't' a boot loop like z68.
A boot loop like from the Z68 boards would results in the board turning on all off, over and over, and over over and over and over and over, and never ending, until you unpluged the PSU, took out the battery, and reset the CMOS and then you might have been able to get back into the BIOS. With Z77 this boot loop doesn't exist, the only loop that existed is one that I described that happens once every some number of boots, but which has since been fixed. If you still have an issues like the one I described for these boards, then i would check your memory or your PSU. Even the way you mount your CPU and cooler has an impact.

There curerntly is an issue and has always been an issue where Sandy bridge CPUs cannot handle recovery from sleep when CPU PLL overvoltage is enabled, currently on these boards PLL overvoltage is enabled when you OC any OC. However GB will introduce a BIOS son with the option to disable PLl overvoltage. The reason they didn't do this is because Ivy Bridge can recover from sleep with pl overvltage enabled.

If you have issues recovering from sleep when you OC or even when you think you aren't OCing that issue is separate. BIOS F6I had some improvements to recovery from sleep, but it still doesn't fix the issues with ppl OV and sandy sleep, so when a future BIOS comes out you can disable pll overvoltage to recover form sleep while OCing. .If you have Ivy Bridge once again you have no issues as Intel fixed the issue with it.

Now if you are having odd issues after flashing to F6I or whatever the latest beta is on tweaktown or hwbot forums for your board, please reflash the BIOS again, then restart, then go into the BIOS and load optimized defaults and restart. If you are still having issues you need to check your memory, memory is the number one cause of issues with sandy bridge and ivy bridge platforms, DDR3 has been around for a very long time, and there are a lot of kits that just wont work so well with this platform.

ALSO when putting memory into your slots, please use the last slot(the one furthest form the CPU) first, then skit a slot and put it int he slot after that. So you don't put memory into the slots closest to the board.

Also After BIOS flash you should fail to boot at least once on the first boot up attempt. BTW when you shut down or restart the board, and the board fully shuts down and then starts up, that isn't a boot loop, that is a full shutdown.

if you do have a "boot loop" and you are sure it isn't because of your OC skills, please describes what happens with POST codes, i mean you have a UD5H or UD3H you have a post code display that can tell a lot about what is happening.


BTW when you OC AT ALL it is normal for your board to cycle 1-2 times, this is GIGABYTE's OC failure checking the overclock to make sure it can boot before it POSTs.
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Great summary thanks Sin0822. Let's hope Gigabyte don't abandon those of us still using Sandybridge CPU!
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Okay there are no boot loops like there were on Z68, if you have a boot loop like Z68 did then you would be so annoyed that you would know exactly what it is.
With BIOS F6I and later there was an issue just with the 2600K, not 2500K, where the board would turn on and off like 3 to 7 times and the boot right up like nothing happened with your OC present, that still isn't' a boot loop like z68.
A boot loop like from the Z68 boards would results in the board turning on all off, over and over, and over over and over and over and over, and never ending, until you unpluged the PSU, took out the battery, and reset the CMOS and then you might have been able to get back into the BIOS. With Z77 this boot loop doesn't exist, the only loop that existed is one that I described that happens once every some number of boots, but which has since been fixed. If you still have an issues like the one I described for these boards, then i would check your memory or your PSU. Even the way you mount your CPU and cooler has an impact.
There curerntly is an issue and has always been an issue where Sandy bridge CPUs cannot handle recovery from sleep when CPU PLL overvoltage is enabled, currently on these boards PLL overvoltage is enabled when you OC any OC. However GB will introduce a BIOS son with the option to disable PLl overvoltage. The reason they didn't do this is because Ivy Bridge can recover from sleep with pl overvltage enabled.
If you have issues recovering from sleep when you OC or even when you think you aren't OCing that issue is separate. BIOS F6I had some improvements to recovery from sleep, but it still doesn't fix the issues with ppl OV and sandy sleep, so when a future BIOS comes out you can disable pll overvoltage to recover form sleep while OCing. .If you have Ivy Bridge once again you have no issues as Intel fixed the issue with it.
Now if you are having odd issues after flashing to F6I or whatever the latest beta is on tweaktown or hwbot forums for your board, please reflash the BIOS again, then restart, then go into the BIOS and load optimized defaults and restart. If you are still having issues you need to check your memory, memory is the number one cause of issues with sandy bridge and ivy bridge platforms, DDR3 has been around for a very long time, and there are a lot of kits that just wont work so well with this platform.
ALSO when putting memory into your slots, please use the last slot(the one furthest form the CPU) first, then skit a slot and put it int he slot after that. So you don't put memory into the slots closest to the board.
Also After BIOS flash you should fail to boot at least once on the first boot up attempt. BTW when you shut down or restart the board, and the board fully shuts down and then starts up, that isn't a boot loop, that is a full shutdown.
if you do have a "boot loop" and you are sure it isn't because of your OC skills, please describes what happens with POST codes, i mean you have a UD5H or UD3H you have a post code display that can tell a lot about what is happening.
BTW when you OC AT ALL it is normal for your board to cycle 1-2 times, this is GIGABYTE's OC failure checking the overclock to make sure it can boot before it POSTs.

Yeah that really helped. With my Current OC with PLL OV ON i tried once sleep which i never use and PC started to boot-loop. I thought it was a Gigabyte thing.
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