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I surely am misinformed but the last pages of the thread doesn't seem to do justice to what these gigabyte boards really are or people say they are. I mean most of the reviews put it high up there among the best at this price point but if you take a look here, there are a lot of complaints coming with every new version of the bios, it kind of worries me. My question is, am i set with this board ( ud3h) for overclocking a 3770 to 4.6 or should i look somewhere else?
The purchase is planned for Monday so please if you could expand a little i'd be grateful.

The only issues I have yet to see resolved with either the UD3 or 5 have been related to some specific pieces of hardware (expansion cards) and some issues with the USB3 ports. A lot or the issues earlier on (compatibility with Sandy cpu's and functionality of sleep mode) have been resolved via bios updates. All this you could find out on your own by reading this thread. The vast majority of issues have been resolved by troubleshooting and a very few have needed to result in rma'ing the board.

However, you are the one who has to convince yourself if this is the right purchase for you. Don't expect others to do your homework for you.
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I surely am misinformed but the last pages of the thread doesn't seem to do justice to what these gigabyte boards really are or people say they are. I mean most of the reviews put it high up there among the best at this price point but if you take a look here, there are a lot of complaints coming with every new version of the bios, it kind of worries me. My question is, am i set with this board ( ud3h) for overclocking a 3770 to 4.6 or should i look somewhere else?
The purchase is planned for Monday so please if you could expand a little i'd be grateful.

The only issues I have yet to see resolved with either the UD3 or 5 have been related to some specific pieces of hardware (expansion cards) and some issues with the USB3 ports. A lot or the issues earlier on (compatibility with Sandy cpu's and functionality of sleep mode) have been resolved via bios updates. All this you could find out on your own by reading this thread. The vast majority of issues have been resolved by troubleshooting and a very few have needed to result in rma'ing the board.

However, you are the one who has to convince yourself if this is the right purchase for you. Don't expect others to do your homework for you.

USB ports is a common problem just because of the controllers. It's not held exclusively to Gigabyte in that regard.
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The CPU PLL Overvolt option came in the F9D and also the F9e, I'm running F9e as we speak and hence I compared it to F10a.
Ever since I upgraded from bios F7 (which I shouldn't have), problems have started arising and now even if I revert back to F7, the problem is still there.
If I restart my PC, it would actually shutdown and then turn on after a few seconds and boot into windows. Now if I wanted to Shutdown my PC, I would press the dam shutdown button and not restart. And guess what? this also happens when I turn it to sleep. So I click the sleep button from windows, it goes into sleep, then turns on and then goes off. And this happens every freakin single time and I'm like ***?
Now after going through all bioses, the beta ones and the ones on the website, nothing seems to work. This is surely giga's fault, I wish I never got this board in the first place. I was sold upon it's specs, but personal experience speaks otherwise.

IMO dude if F7 gave you 0 problems and flashing to later BIOses did, and then flashing back didn't fix the issue, then the issue isn't motherboard related, unless you physically hurt the board. There are also two F7 BIOSes I believe.

And here is the deal people, if you have no problems then why update your BIOS?

The issues explained here really are all kinds of tiny issues, the freezing ones, from here on out will be caused by PCI devices which are not fully compatible. At least with the M3, UD3H, UD5H, and Sniper 3 if you still have a freezing issue then please remove any device like eSATA drive, let's say you have a game pad or whatever, or a sound card and see if it still persists. if it still persists then download DPC latency checker and check your DPC latency. Then report it, don't report i before hand and just not even tell us what you have in your system. But as far as the CPU and BCLK go, all new BIOSes(F7 and newer) should have BCLK set to 100.1 default wink.gif as well as tune a CPU low power state to increase its stability if the CPU is slightly degraded.

A word to the wise watching these forums, asus, asrock, msi, evga all hate GB for their Z77 pricing, thus companies with the resources(there really are only 2 who can afford full time forum trolls) I already caught 1 troll who worked for one of those companies posting in my threads on more than 1 forum, i am not saying that every new member who comes here with 2 posts and 0 rep is a troll, they aren't. They are here so that we can help them as this is the most active thread for these boards on the internet. When i look around i see tons of threads with problems with asus, asrock, and msi z77 boards even on this forum that just get bumped out of the way because no one responds to them. However that also makes this thread a great target.

Here is my rule, if an issue is extremely odd, like you have never heard of it before and you cannot reproduce it, it is either user's error or it needs RMA.
If more than 1 user is reporting the same thing after a BIOS release then there might be something changed that would do that, their aim with BETA isn't to make them worse, however if you haven't noticed since F8 we haven't had one official BIOS. If you are a NOOB(which is basically you would say on newegg reviews that your tech level is the highest score), then you should NOT be touching BETA BIOSes, end of story. BETAs are only for use by those who know how to use them, and don't complain about things they cannot describe. Then find the issue and report it with enough accuracy so someone can take it higher up.

F9E is a decent BIOS, I will test F10A if I have time today.

if your USB hub is doing surge errors, just disable the errors is the best thing I can tell you. The BIOS has very little do with with windows being mad. Windows 7 is just angry it will have the most legacy driver for intel USb 3.0, lol Windows 8 will have a much nicer driver for it on release, a very good driver that hopefully someone will be able to get to work on windows 7.

BTW Ali Man I am extremely confused, You never told me what type of CPU you have, what type of anything other than your motherboard. From your post I cannot actually understand your problem. You are saying the system will shutdown and then restart and then what? or it will start and then shutdown? Are you overclocking? What happens after it shuts down and turns back on? You aren't describing in any detail.

Ahh Ali Man you are the guy who is complaining about not being able to resume from sleep except by pressing the power button?
Edited by Sin0822 - 7/15/12 at 12:23pm
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Waking from Sleep is a common issue with A LOT of people on different motherboards.

Def not a Gigabyte only occurrence.
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i am wondering if he is using a SB CPU, as IB should have 0 problems with this. If he is using SB well nothing has changed from F7 to now unless he isn't OCing. So I am confused.
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I've gone through every post in this 267 page thread and I want to say.

THANK YOU SIN082!!

We all appreciate that you didn't just help for the first 10 pages then get bitter and start calling everyone noobs.
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A word to the wise watching these forums, asus, asrock, msi, evga all hate GB for their Z77 pricing,...

Asrock? I find that hard to believe since everyone seems to be praising their motherboards and their pricing as if it were the second coming of Christ himself.
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i find F10a very good bios,much better than any F9
from your post,it sounds like it was user related problems rather than board or bios,or maybe faulty board
and i just love such things like "i wish i never got board in first place" - if you think other manufacturers have less problems,you are very mistaken,im working for one of the biggest EU retailers and most problems is user related,this applies also to Asus,MSI,ASRock - any
keep in mind,that this is 2012,not 2008,where only few manufacturers making memory,video cards,etc etc,and after every release every board (including video,sound - all) needs time to find problems,this is just impossible to do in factory,otherwise we will be waiting new parts appear in market only every 5 years
not happy with board - RMA it,and if after you still be unhappy - back it to your retailer and chose another

Your argument of user-related issues applies to noobs, I'm not one. The point is that it had been working alright at one time and now it's not. It's as simple as that and I didn't take out the mobo or damage it in any other way, physically.

Yes I agree, no company is perfect, but we all know that gigabyte hands down has the best build quality in their mobo's, but without good software to make use of that hardware is useless. It's not rocket science to understand man.
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i am wondering if he is using a SB CPU, as IB should have 0 problems with this. If he is using SB well nothing has changed from F7 to now unless he isn't OCing. So I am confused.
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IMO dude if F7 gave you 0 problems and flashing to later BIOses did, and then flashing back didn't fix the issue, then the issue isn't motherboard related, unless you physically hurt the board. There are also two F7 BIOSes I believe.
And here is the deal people, if you have no problems then why update your BIOS?
The issues explained here really are all kinds of tiny issues, the freezing ones, from here on out will be caused by PCI devices which are not fully compatible. At least with the M3, UD3H, UD5H, and Sniper 3 if you still have a freezing issue then please remove any device like eSATA drive, let's say you have a game pad or whatever, or a sound card and see if it still persists. if it still persists then download DPC latency checker and check your DPC latency. Then report it, don't report i before hand and just not even tell us what you have in your system. But as far as the CPU and BCLK go, all new BIOSes(F7 and newer) should have BCLK set to 100.1 default wink.gif as well as tune a CPU low power state to increase its stability if the CPU is slightly degraded.
A word to the wise watching these forums, asus, asrock, msi, evga all hate GB for their Z77 pricing, thus companies with the resources(there really are only 2 who can afford full time forum trolls) I already caught 1 troll who worked for one of those companies posting in my threads on more than 1 forum, i am not saying that every new member who comes here with 2 posts and 0 rep is a troll, they aren't. They are here so that we can help them as this is the most active thread for these boards on the internet. When i look around i see tons of threads with problems with asus, asrock, and msi z77 boards even on this forum that just get bumped out of the way because no one responds to them. However that also makes this thread a great target.
Here is my rule, if an issue is extremely odd, like you have never heard of it before and you cannot reproduce it, it is either user's error or it needs RMA.
If more than 1 user is reporting the same thing after a BIOS release then there might be something changed that would do that, their aim with BETA isn't to make them worse, however if you haven't noticed since F8 we haven't had one official BIOS. If you are a NOOB(which is basically you would say on newegg reviews that your tech level is the highest score), then you should NOT be touching BETA BIOSes, end of story. BETAs are only for use by those who know how to use them, and don't complain about things they cannot describe. Then find the issue and report it with enough accuracy so someone can take it higher up.
F9E is a decent BIOS, I will test F10A if I have time today.
if your USB hub is doing surge errors, just disable the errors is the best thing I can tell you. The BIOS has very little do with with windows being mad. Windows 7 is just angry it will have the most legacy driver for intel USb 3.0, lol Windows 8 will have a much nicer driver for it on release, a very good driver that hopefully someone will be able to get to work on windows 7.
BTW Ali Man I am extremely confused, You never told me what type of CPU you have, what type of anything other than your motherboard. From your post I cannot actually understand your problem. You are saying the system will shutdown and then restart and then what? or it will start and then shutdown? Are you overclocking? What happens after it shuts down and turns back on? You aren't describing in any detail.
Ahh Ali Man you are the guy who is complaining about not being able to resume from sleep except by pressing the power button?

The only reason why I updated it was to get better OC'ing potential out of my memory sticks. They're 2133Mhz G.Skill's 4x2GB where they perfectly boot-up at 2200Mhz but never at 2400Mhz and no matter how lose the timings are. But then i realized that it was the sticks themselves, which was an obvious conclusion.

Yes I'am the same guy who had even posted before about the sleeping issues and no one even cared to address my problem. However, you were right till a certain extent that after I turn off the 'CPU PLL overvolt' option in the bios, the sleep function works but turning it on from the keyboard/mouse, but now another problem is also related to it.

First let me tell you that I did update me PC specs a while back, but I'm not sure if you guys can view it. Well no, I'm not running an SB processor, but rather a 3570K.
Check out this link for my overall build:
http://www.pakgamers.com/forums/f139/ivy-bridge-build-130677/

I'm running it at 4.5Ghz @ 1.200V (LLC @ Extreme). This is the lowest Vcore that I can get 4.5Ghz stable at and the hottest core spikes till 65C max.

Now coming to the problem, when I shutdown the PC, it plainly shuts down which is good. But when i restart the PC or even put it in sleep mode, it would first shutdown for around 2 seconds and then turn back on and perform the desired operation. If you see what I'm trying to say, this thing really does get to be a pain. I've tried almost all bioses available except for the F6 one as that's the first bios, so I was just reluctant to go too back.
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Your argument of user-related issues applies to noobs, I'm not one. The point is that it had been working alright at one time and now it's not. It's as simple as that and I didn't take out the mobo or damage it in any other way, physically.
Yes I agree, no company is perfect, but we all know that gigabyte hands down has the best build quality in their mobo's, but without good software to make use of that hardware is useless. It's not rocket science to understand man.
The only reason why I updated it was to get better OC'ing potential out of my memory sticks. They're 2133Mhz G.Skill's 4x2GB where they perfectly boot-up at 2200Mhz but never at 2400Mhz and no matter how lose the timings are. But then i realized that it was the sticks themselves, which was an obvious conclusion.
Yes I'am the same guy who had even posted before about the sleeping issues and no one even cared to address my problem. However, you were right till a certain extent that after I turn off the 'CPU PLL overvolt' option in the bios, the sleep function works but turning it on from the keyboard/mouse, but now another problem is also related to it.
First let me tell you that I did update me PC specs a while back, but I'm not sure if you guys can view it. Well no, I'm not running an SB processor, but rather a 3570K.
Check out this link for my overall build:
http://www.pakgamers.com/forums/f139/ivy-bridge-build-130677/
I'm running it at 4.5Ghz @ 1.200V (LLC @ Extreme). This is the lowest Vcore that I can get 4.5Ghz stable at and the hottest core spikes till 65C max.
Now coming to the problem, when I shutdown the PC, it plainly shuts down which is good. But when i restart the PC or even put it in sleep mode, it would first shutdown for around 2 seconds and then turn back on and perform the desired operation. If you see what I'm trying to say, this thing really does get to be a pain. I've tried almost all bioses available except for the F6 one as that's the first bios, so I was just reluctant to go too back.
Wait so your only issue is that when you restart your motherboard is shuts itself all the way down and then turns on?
How is that so annoying to you? When you are OCed the systems have to double check themselves, GB has built in fault check points throughout the operation of the system when it is OCed. Have you tried the behavior when the system is not OCed?.
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Your argument of user-related issues applies to noobs, I'm not one. The point is that it had been working alright at one time and now it's not. It's as simple as that and I didn't take out the mobo or damage it in any other way, physically.
Yes I agree, no company is perfect, but we all know that gigabyte hands down has the best build quality in their mobo's, but without good software to make use of that hardware is useless. It's not rocket science to understand man.

well,i cant see what you doing with your pc,and that "user related" was overal,not for you,you taking it to personally,nobody called you n00b
if you think that Asus, or MSI dont have problems - you are very mistaken,i spent 2 years in one forum,where people talking about Asus P8P67 boards problems,and still after 2 years have same problems,they not updated bios for 4 months,even with very well know bugs,while GB did more than 4 times during last 30 days,that says something and i must say that with every bios update my board just keeps getting better
good software takes time,just as with any other piece of pc hardware,you always need better drivers for vga,for other things,same with bios,i dont see problem here,im yet to see ANY board who release they mobo with perfect bios,especially that UEFI not long ago introduced

Sin0822 - can you look at my post 2644 at 265 page,and what you think what problem might be?
i dont have any friends around with 1155 socket cpu...
Edited by pushaz - 7/15/12 at 2:27pm
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