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Sorry to hear about your misfortune, would you recommend the board after your problems? I mean Sin seems to recommend the z77 gigabyte boards everywhere and yet it looks like they have a lot of problems sad-smiley-002.gif

Ironically, I would if you don't want to spend over $150 for a good board. The benefits and advantages outweigh the issues as long as you know how and can work around the problems. This board is technically on par with boards that are $180+. So from a value perspective, I would recommend it with a warning. I have been running stable now since my last post. Every person is different and will have different results. Some people have probably never seen the board freeze because they have never happened to use the VIA ports. Some use keyboard and mice that do not affect/are not affected by the ports but then you have a few of us that stumble across the problems. I would not recommend the board if you want a problem free build experience. I think there are others out there that are not as finicky albeit that cost more money. Gigabyte obviously went with some really cheap solutions in order to offer this board below the pricing of equal competition, which is why I think it got so popular so quickly. My jaw literally fell when I saw all the features and then the price. Atheros and VIA however are not driver update friendly solutions, and that can be problematic in the short run. (I am now somewhat fearing how it will stand up to Windows 8). Lets face it though, rarely any build is problem free nowadays. These boards are so stuffed up with extras that some of them are working against each other, lol. They'll iron out eventually I think. It's a relatively new board. I'm sure a few Bios updates down the line it will be solid as a rock.

Since the VIA chipset is the main issue in this case, I can only assume that boards that are using all intel or alternative usb 3 chipsets are likely having a better time, but who really knows - the grass always looks greener on the other side from afar. I don't really know who is to blame for this problem. I can say that I have seen other users complain about their G19s freezing/rebooting their OS so it may not be only VIAs fault and thus not particularly Gigabytes fault either. I just wish they'd used something more solid than VIA. NEC or something else would have been better choices.

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hi! I'm new to this forum, and I have a question / problem that I really lose sleep, I start, I had saved money, and I decided to buy a computer, start with a good base and gradually add things, so I decided to buy Z77-ga d3h GB, the processor is a little short but to start walking as I settled is a G860, I get everything, and start to install, without any problems, install, boot and put my win7 32bit, and using the computer for a few days, I'm freezing the screen three times, having to reboot to be solved, after that install the win7 64bit sp1, but gives no failure looking at the ET6 see that the temperature is high http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...ttulo1rim.png/ PCH and I'm starting to get nervous, I am contacting pccom service. and I recommend that you install HWMonitor http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...nttulobco.png/ and always gives me a temperature of 18 ° C below, also check it in the bios (F6) http://imageshack .us/photo/my-images/528/dsc01921z.jpg / ET6 goes like, update the bios (f9) and dont move the temperatures. basically this is my problem, not to do, the plate is impeccable I arrived on June 20 and barely two days of use, I feel the billet, thank you very much for reading and I hope that is solution!
pd: no OC, sorry for my level of english

I can't understand half of that, can you use your native language and maybe we can use a translator to figure it out.

From what I do get, it seems you are freezing and have to reboot to fix it. Your PCH temp is also high, am I correct?

Attempt to fix freezing by:

1. Remove all USB devices from their ports on the board. Use only the 2 ports that are under the LAN port for your keyboard and mouse.

2. Load OS defaults and set BLCK to 100.1

3. Disable EIST and C1E.

PCH is naturally high for this board. Most users see between 55c and 62c.
 
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THANKS! Sin and Kry!! Happy to find out that A0 is OK.

On the other issue, my thumb drive is always in FAT32, in fact I usually reformat the drive and just put the bios update on it.

Its just that even with the drive plugged in to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 port, Q-Flash does not respond when I try to click "Update BIOS from Drive" and instead only lets me click the EXIT button.

I guess I can always use @BIOS but I sure would like to know how to fix Q-Flash.

David
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what you mean?

I guess you are talking to me?

I put my PC to sleep and it does so only to immediately come out of it. Call it a sleep loop out?

I start swapping components and testing until It will remain in sleep.
Once the (a) culprit is discovered I go to the component's (my Logitech K350 keyboard) place in device manager and choose properties/power management/ and un-tic the "Allow this device to Wake the computer".

This worked but after an hour it woke again. So a hunting we will go using a command prompt "powercfg -lastwake" and I found a USB\ROOT_HUB20\4&282DCF3F&0 to be waking her. Alas this baby has the "Allow this device to Wake the computer" shaded out and the option for windows to shut it down to save power selected. That is un-tic'd and we are testing.

I require the sleep mode because I want it to be off when not needed and the fans off add to the peace and quiet in the room.
    
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Hey all, throwing in my 2c, or maybe $2 re: this board. It has been a real problem for me.
[Summary in case TLDR]: Does anyone happen to currently use Windows 8 on this board successfully or manage to run 100% stable using optimized defaults (full auto/stock bios settings?).
Here is what's going on with me. Sorry for the lack of brevity in my post. I'm a pretty detailed person and I wanted to get as much info out there in case there are questions re: the content itself.
I got this board very recently...yesterday actually. I have read many things, good and bad about the board. I got it for the simple reason that I didn't want to lock myself into a board that I wouldn't be able to upgrade a year or 2 down the line. So I got one capable of SLI and overclocking even though I have absolutely no interest in doing so right now. The other features are great too and the cost of the board didn't put it out on a limb vs. the non-sli version. I got the 3570K for the exact cost of the 2500K and only $6 more than the 3550 so, why not right? That was a no brainer. I was overwhelmed with board choices and ended up going to 5 of the most popular review sites and avging the board reviews. Most of them ended up recommending Asus/MSI and Gigabyte. The Asus is expensive, I wouldn't have gone there and the MSI was also $30 more for the same features available on the Gigabyte. Of all of them the Asrock Z77 Extreme4 was my second choice of well recommended board, but I decided not to get that because one reviewer stated it was missing some feature (Turbo Mode/Turbo Boost? I forget) and also I'm not familiar with Asrock. I'm kinda old school and back in the day it was all about Asus, Abit, Biostar, DFI, Gigabyte, Foxconn, MSI so on and so forth. My main 3 were always Abit, Asus and MSI. Anyway, suffice it to say the Z77x-UD3H and UD5H came highly recommended and I went with the wifil/bt-less 3H.
I haven't at all been as lucky as the reviewers of this board. I've been having steady problems with it since install. Suffice it to say, it's "the freezing problem" that you've probably either experienced yourself or have read about elsewhere is the main issue.
The saving grace has been that this happened so far, only consistently in Windows 8. I realize that pretty much none of the drivers are written for Windows 8 yet, but I figured that whatever Windows 8 (and MS) installed were good enough. The system doesn't stay up though and I have tried just about everything.
Tried a spinner (1TB 7200rpm Seagate)
Tried another PSU (Antec 600w)
Tried setting BCLK to 100.1
Tried disabling all CPU Power Features (EIST, C1E, C6/C5 state)
Tried removing AUTO from all Motherboard Power Features (like pwm etc. I set that all to standard/normal, whatever their alternative settings are)
Set vcore to 1.1
Nothing at all seemed to work.
System works fine for about 5m then it just slowly locks up. Works for longer if I'm not playing music. Seems to work fine while I'm playing a game. The lockup symptoms are skipping/repeating music at a certain point, then the mouseover text stays on the screen, then some buttons will become unresponsive. After a short while the mouse locks up as well and there's a beep. There's no offending/tell-tale code on the board and no event to speak of in the journal except the typical "system shut down unexpectedly".
By the next day, all my excitement had worn off and I'd gotten fed up so I decided to go to Windows 7 in the likely chance that it was a driver issue. (I know USB hardware and drivers can be a real pain and this stuff is sorta new)
The system has been stable now for some time so I have set some things back to default except for the base clock because when I do set that to auto, the bios itself freezes. Maybe I've gotten the settings customized just right? Who knows...I'm too scared to go try optimized defaults at this point.
In the back of my mind, I'd really like the auto/stock settings to work. I would especially like to set the VCORE back to Auto or some lower number, 1.1 feels like I may be pushing it unnecessarily. I've read about folks doing 4.x OCing with 1.1 and here I am at a measly 3.4-3.8. I'm frankly just scared of going back because the system as of right now hasn't crashed since. My temps are OK, not wonderful for IB. 40c idle, 45c playing D3. Initially though, before I moved VCORE up, I was rocking 30/35c idle, 40c max load. Right now the system seems to be floating between 1.080 and 1.092 VCORE...ironically going to 1.080 at full load and 1.092 when idle (I don't get that).
In any case, my questions to you are:
Is anyone currently running Windows 8 stable and what are your bios settings? I'm asking because I 100% prefer 8. I've been using it since day 1 of the consumer preview (I'm on release preview now, since day 1 of that) and 7 feels like a backward step. I know it's not but I've gotten used to a new way of doing things so I'd really rather be using it. It's also coming in 3 months and I want to be ready for it.
The Abit board I had does run Windows 8 stable, I'm sure it helps that it's an older board with no "native USB 3" or highfalutin features.
Is anyone running at the optimized defaults? (vcore set to auto, turbo boost set to auto/enabled, all cpu power saving enabled, all 3d power settings at auto). As I mentioned, I'd rather have everything set to stock/auto and have it work. I don't really need C1E enabled, but would like EIST switched on since I've seen errors in the event journal (on my Q6600) when it is off. I like my event journal, non eventful. Since it currently doesn't, that's telling me that either GB has provided a dirt BIOS or I'm doing something wrong....maybe a little of both? If it works for you and not for me then I know it's definitely me. If it doesn't work for you either then I figure GB has some splainin' to do.
If you're running a 100% tried and true stable system, could you please in detail post what settings you're currently using or email me your profile(s)? Any setting you've manually switched or whatever, I'd be open to hearing it and messing with mine in the same manner. Even if you're OCing, I would do that as well as long as I'm not running hot. I would rather OC at 1.1 VC than let it sit at stock settings. I'm just scared to go below for fear of the freezing to return.
My last board was an Abit IP35 Pro which still works like a champ. It has currently replaced my MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and AMD as a bench/beta test PC along with my E2200 from my HTPC which was replaced by the Q6600 from my previous build. I feel sort of cheated in getting this nice $150 "reviewer recommended" board and not have stuff work properly right out of the box (not blaming the board, as I mentioned it might just be me). Are the days of having everything set to auto gone?
So my current, seemingly stable settings are:
BCLK = 100.1 (tried setting to auto and bios freezes)
Turbo Boost set to Auto
VCORE set to 1.1v
All the power stuff for the board changed from Auto to Balanced/Standard/Normal, whatever the setting is. Basically I don't want the bios attempting to do anything on-the-fly.
So far, so good in Windows 7.
Thanks for any and all help/advice you could possibly give.
*Note: I'm using the stock cooler because I couldn't find the 1155 bracket add-on that would make my Zalman 9700 work with it. It's listed on Newegg but for auto-notify, not even Zalman has it for sale so I may have to end up getting another cooler, though the stock one seems to be working fine (in terms of not letting the cpu blow itself up).

I know that you have received a few replies and you have responded since posting this, however if you are still having stability issues I would recommend you first provide your system specs by using the "system builder" feature of this site so we can see what components you are using. Also, load MS Windows 7 to at least get your system stable and then work from there. Load latest official bios and set up optimized settings, save and exit.

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Just assembled the machine in my profile. When I plugged it in and powered it on, all the fans start, the main BIOS light come on, but then it powers itself down after about 1 sec. It pauses for another sec or so and powers up again but only for 1-2 sec. This repeats and repeats.
No LED code and no beep codes from the speaker. I tried moving the memory around as well as changing the motherboard's battery. Tried clearing CMOS and also booting from backup BIOS.
http://youtu.be/PcDc3fwFeBI
Any suggestions? Note that I am trying to use the i7's on board video and do not have a video card in the machine. Monitor is connected via the onboard DVI.

From the information you have provided, it appears you are not using a Gigabyte motherboard. I'd suggest re-posting this in the correct thread to get some better suggestions.

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Originally Posted by neoprimal View Post

New questions incoming:
Is there anything wrong with plugging the power into the board directly if I only have 1 video card? I plugged it in because the manual states that it should be done for power stability in the board when running SLI and the card does take 2 6pin plug ins (like older SLI).
Second thing. I'm terribly confused re: Virtu. Should I bother with it? Where do I plug my monitors...my discrete video or the onboard, should I decide to use it?
Thanks again.

Nothing wrong with plugging in the extra power but it is really only for folks running multiple GPU cards. You can load and/or enable Virtu if you want. Entirely up to you. Only you will be able to determine if it is something you will want/need. You plug your monitor into your dGPU.

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I am running an UD5H with F8, I have run into two issues, hope you can help me.
I.) My 3-pin fans are running at 100% even though I set all fans to voltage and set them to silent running in BIOS.
I also tried to use easyTune to have them run at 10% at 30°C and 100% at 80°C. The CPU fan is running at 300rpm, which is fine.
Sysfan 1 however reports no speed at all and Sysfan 2 and 3 report 1500 which is their maximum.
Any ideas?
II.) When I try to use an X-fi in my PCI Slot win7 reports that there are no ressources available (Code 12) and crashes with an IRQL_LESS_OR_EQUAL bsod.
When I removed the card and installed a TV-card into the last PCIe x16 slot things worked fine however.
Same when I reactivated the RealTek Audiochip. So ressources should be available plenty.
I have read comments from some people here with problems regarding the PCI slot, have any of you been able to resolve those?

Although others here have reported differently, the manual states that in order for you to be able to control system fans, you must use 4-pin pwm fans (Sys fan 1-3). Sys 4 is 100% and not controllable. Only the cpu fan can control a 3-pin fan via voltage control.

There have been others here reporting issues with using add-on cards like your X-FI. I would suggest just using the on-board audio until you are able to get your audio card issue resolved.

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Originally Posted by victor9847 View Post

hi! I'm new to this forum, and I have a question / problem that I really lose sleep, I start, I had saved money, and I decided to buy a computer, start with a good base and gradually add things, so I decided to buy Z77-ga d3h GB, the processor is a little short but to start walking as I settled is a G860, I get everything, and start to install, without any problems, install, boot and put my win7 32bit, and using the computer for a few days, I'm freezing the screen three times, having to reboot to be solved, after that install the win7 64bit sp1, but gives no failure looking at the ET6 see that the temperature is high http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...ttulo1rim.png/ PCH and I'm starting to get nervous, I am contacting pccom service. and I recommend that you install HWMonitor http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...nttulobco.png/ and always gives me a temperature of 18 ° C below, also check it in the bios (F6) http://imageshack .us/photo/my-images/528/dsc01921z.jpg / ET6 goes like, update the bios (f9) and dont move the temperatures. basically this is my problem, not to do, the plate is impeccable I arrived on June 20 and barely two days of use, I feel the billet, thank you very much for reading and I hope that is solution!
pd: no OC, sorry for my level of english

My understanding is that the UD3H supports the i3, i5, and i7. Not sure if the board supports the G860. Try contacting Gigabyte Support as this may be your problem.

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Hi all! I'm obviously new here and need the assistance of you Z77 pros. I've already searched this thread for my issues and haven't found any answers - maybe I'm not using the right search terms. In any event here are my components and my problems:
UD5H with F8, i5 3570k CPU (Stock), Samsung 830 SSD 256GB C: Drive, Sapphire HD5770 graphics, Corsair VX550W PSU and Windows 7 64bit (Clean Installation)
My 2 issues are that an "A0" Error-IDE Initialization is started" shows on the board after getting to Windows 7 and second; when in the bios, I am unable to use Q-Flash; the only button that responds is Exit. "Update Bios From Drive" will not respond. Actually, it did once when I went to F6 but after that it stopped working. So, now I have to use @BIOS.
In summary:
1) What have I done to kill my Q-Flash and can I fix it? (have I permanently corrupted my bios?)
2) What may be causing the "A0" error on the LEDs on my board? I tried unplugging everything but the mouse, keyboard and graphics card and I still get it.
Many thanks in advance to any who can help me!
David

As already stated, the A0 code indicates that you are all good. As for not being able to access any of the options in q-flash, I would suggest moving your switch to your backup bios and after restarting, go into bios. Once in the bios you can move the switch back to the primary and flash your new bios. If that doesn't work and you are not able to select the load bios from drive, it is because the bios cannot see your flash drive containing your bios file. As has already been suggested, make sure your flash drive is properly formatted and you have it plugged into one of the rear USB 3.0/2.0 Intel ports.
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it might be your particular memory stick though.

BTW neoprimal, VIA ports aren't always the issue, for me and my devices they work the best.

If you are going to have freezes now then it is going to be because of device incompatibility, most of which is caused by some PCI sound cards. You are the first user with a USb device that has freezes LOL.

The UD3H with VIA is good, that VIA chip performs better than intel wink.gif GB also isn't the only one using the VIA hub, it is one of a kind, and other manufacturers can provide you 4 total ports on Intel, while GB is actually offering you 6-8 with the VIA hub as the VIA hub is extending the Intel performance. Windows 8 would be interesting to see what happens when a xHCI driver is native and thus your USb speeds shoot through the roof.
NEC was only thte first with USb 3.0, however their performance in comparison was not good at all compared to new generation USb 3.0 controllers. Then you have ASMedia which is own by ASUS, and thus you see asrock and asus use it, however its performance is average. Then you have EtronTech as well as Fintek i believe and VIA. out of all those VIA is by far the most known name as well as capable of developing new technology. I wouldn't put down the VLi hub or controller, the only other complaint i see is that of a surge on the USb hubs, which can be solved by turning off the notification, some other users reported devices dropping out, but i don't see those complaints anymore. Now that I said that I am sure some new users will register and try and correct me LOL, ill have a good laugh.

Also mate, there will always be issues with Intel Intel USB 3.0, why? Because it is intel, it is brand new and because they are releasing drivers for it slower than VLI is releasing drivers for their VLI800.
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BTW neoprimal, VIA ports aren't always the issue, for me and my devices they work the best.
If you are going to have freezes now then it is going to be because of device incompatibility, most of which is caused by some PCI sound cards. You are the first user with a USb device that has freezes LOL.
The UD3H with VIA is good, that VIA chip performs better than intel wink.gif GB also isn't the only one using the VIA hub, it is one of a kind, and other manufacturers can provide you 4 total ports on Intel, while GB is actually offering you 6-8 with the VIA hub as the VIA hub is extending the Intel performance. Windows 8 would be interesting to see what happens when a xHCI driver is native and thus your USb speeds shoot through the roof.
NEC was only thte first with USb 3.0, however their performance in comparison was not good at all compared to new generation USb 3.0 controllers. Then you have ASMedia which is own by ASUS, and thus you see asrock and asus use it, however its performance is average. Then you have EtronTech as well as Fintek i believe and VIA. out of all those VIA is by far the most known name as well as capable of developing new technology. I wouldn't put down the VLi hub or controller, the only other complaint i see is that of a surge on the USb hubs, which can be solved by turning off the notification, some other users reported devices dropping out, but i don't see those complaints anymore. Now that I said that I am sure some new users will register and try and correct me LOL, ill have a good laugh.
Also mate, there will always be issues with Intel Intel USB 3.0, why? Because it is intel, it is brand new and because they are releasing drivers for it slower than VLI is releasing drivers for their VLI800.

I'm the first person that has identified it as an issue you mean. The majority of people complaining about these boards are inexplicably freezing, as I was. I was luckily able to identify it.

I bet you though, that you will find that the freezing folks are experiencing are in part to this usb 3 chip. You are completely right that it is hardware incompatibility.

Blame can't be focused on one party here, as I mentioned the G19 has given the same issues to other computers as well I've been reading online. Right now my USB hub is on the VIA port and it works fine (with G930, Rumblepad 2, Flash Drives, etc. in them) so I'm not declaring them terrible, I'm just saying that they are definitely finicky and it would do users justice to pay attention to exactly what they plug into them.
It's just the subtle differences between one tech and another I guess. The G19 works flawlessly in the intel ports as well as the nec usb 3 ports, just not the VIA ones and likewise worked without a fault in my Abit IP35 pro no matter what usb port I used (but that was all usb 2, so a different monster).

What do you have plugged into your VIA ports? I'm scared to plug my GoFlex drives into them, lol.

Barkeater,

I have 2 systems built on there. (I added them to my sig).
Also, I have Windows 7 installed and did all of that. My very last post has what caused the issues - plugging my G19 into any of the VIA ports causes the board to go haywire. There seems to be some incompatibility between the G19 and the VIA ports. Once plugged into the Intel ports it works fine. It's sad because I went through an awful lot of BIOS changes and an OS swap just to figure out that my USB ports were the culprit, lol. You live and learn though, and now I can help others who are seeing their Windows freeze for no apparent reason.
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I wonder if it is because the G19 has the two USB ports on it that cause the VIA hub to freak out. Glad you were able to get it diagnosed and have a decent workaround (i.e., using Intel USB rear port).

I found that if I plug a Logitech flightstick into any of the rear usb ports that I would loose my mouse movement in the bios. Also found an easy workaround but just stuff that one has to deal with.
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As already stated, the A0 code indicates that you are all good. As for not being able to access any of the options in q-flash, I would suggest moving your switch to your backup bios and after restarting, go into bios. Once in the bios you can move the switch back to the primary and flash your new bios. If that doesn't work and you are not able to select the load bios from drive, it is because the bios cannot see your flash drive containing your bios file. As has already been suggested, make sure your flash drive is properly formatted and you have it plugged into one of the rear USB 3.0/2.0 Intel ports.

THANKS, Barkeater!!

I was using the USB port on the front and when I tried the port on the back; Q-Flash works now.

All Good, Thanks

David
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My understanding is that the UD3H supports the i3, i5, and i7. Not sure if the board supports the G860. Try contacting Gigabyte Support as this may be your problem.

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I can't understand half of that, can you use your native language and maybe we can use a translator to figure it out.
From what I do get, it seems you are freezing and have to reboot to fix it. Your PCH temp is also high, am I correct?
Attempt to fix freezing by:
1. Remove all USB devices from their ports on the board. Use only the 2 ports that are under the LAN port for your keyboard and mouse.
2. Load OS defaults and set BLCK to 100.1
3. Disable EIST and C1E.
PCH is naturally high for this board. Most users see between 55c and 62c.
sorry, i used the translate of google, doh.gif so i tell you with my own words:
hi! I´m new in this forum, and i have a problem, i bougth the new ga z77x-d3h, with a g860 processor ( the mb supports this) i instal the win7 32bit, and when i used the computer for a few days, the tv had frozen, for solve this i had to reset the computer, this thing happend for 3 times, more later i put the win7 sp1 64bits, i dont have error, but when i saw the temperature of the pch in the et6 i saw 64ºC ohno-smiley02.gif http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...ttulo1rim.png/
i instal the hwmonitor and saw another temperature http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...nttulobco.png/ and always i see a temperature 18º minus than the et6, i see the bios (version f6) and put the same in et6, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/528/dsc01921z.jpg/ i update the bios to f9 but the temp. was the same, this is miy problem, the tempetarure of my pch, sorry for my level of english, wath is the range of temp work of the pch? and why the et6 and the hwmonitor is diferent, no OC, thanks!!! very good forum!!!!!!!thumb.gifthumb.gif
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BTw Z77X-UP5-TH and Ultar durable 5 technical review: http://youtu.be/FYP74eXCVPM

Up5 photoshoot is done, but i need to edit and post.
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