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No matter what i try i cant get 3570K to even Boot @ 4.8Ghz. Had this problem with 2500K where it would not boot @ 5.0Ghz. Am i doing something wrong? Voltage should not really be the limiting factor since i gave it 1.4v and it does not have to be even close to 100% stable to boot to Windows.

Edit: I am also trying to same BIOS @ HDD but it says no drive found?
Edited by ZealotKi11er - 9/9/12 at 6:37pm
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try => LLC "standard" (you offset value will be higher when you lower LLC wink.gif )
P.S. there is some info in my sig that you may find helpful
I can't get it to reliably return from S3 by just varying offset and Vcore LLC. I have played with a wide variety of offsets - higher and lower than are probably needed for stable Prime - and all the VCore LLC settings. but whatever LLC value I use it will eventually crash returning from sleep. Once using standard LLC I got it to return 3 times and I thought I might have found the magic combination, but on the fourth try it hung when returning.

Unless there is another setting to try I think i will just live with a constant Vcore.
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I really can't say why it has a problem returning from sleep. The only thing I can recommend is setting up the Power options in Windows and set "hibernate after" to "never" and possibly disallow any wake timers, etc.
Sleep is working fine for me, I've got in the habit of using it as I like the "instant on" aspect, plus I have a pretty full system with water pumps, lights, etc.
post #3614 of 6656
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Originally Posted by Jong1 View Post

Hi guys. Noob here at Overclock.net redface.gif This seems the place to discuss Z77X-UD5H overclocking.
I'm not trying to do anything excessive here. Pretty happy with a good 100% stable 4.4Ghz overclock. But it must be stable not only running Prime etc. but also entering/returning from S3. This is a must for me.
I have it working perfectly using.
- 44 multiplier
- 1.26 vcore
- Turbo Vcore LLC
- XMP profile1 memory
...that's it.
Max core temp running Prime95 blend at those settings is 67C.
When I use this and fully load the CPUs CPU-Z reports 1.248 - 1.236 and my VID is 1.2360.
So I decided I wanted to stop using a constant vcore and instead use a DVID offset. Seems sensible to reduce power consumption at light load if I can. An offset of +0.04V gives me almost exactly the same load vcore, In fact it oscillates a little higher 1.248 - 1.260, which should work, I think, but it does not. The PC will boot and run Prime stably, but it almost always hangs on resume from S3. This is true for offset values from 0.01-0.05V.
I haven't even tried taking the offset higher because there seems little point in running a significantly higher voltage under load putting the CPU under real additional temp and voltage stress, just to save a few watts at low load!
Why is it not stable when the vcore varies under load, even though it is stable at a lower vcore than set when using DVID? Is there some other setting I also need to tweak to get DVID working? I did think of changing the Vcore LLC to extreme, but generally this seems to be thought not a good idea unless using subzero cooling.
Any thoughts gratefully received!



You didn't say what cpu you're using. I posted my OC a couple of pages back. On my 3570K is multiplier 44 and Vcore offset +0.04, everything else on Auto, and I've no problem with S3.

Try Power Options > Advanced Power Settings, Allow hybrid Sleep = disabled
post #3615 of 6656
Hi guys. In a later post, and also now in my rig info, I said th CPU is a 3770k.

Yeah, I tried setting all to auto except the multiplier. Still S3 is unreliable. I have also tried disabling hybrid sleep. In fact I did that for testing anyway - it allows me to swiftly sleep and resume multiple times to test for reliability.

For a few generations of Intel tech now I've come the the conclusion that S3 is a very good test of ultimate stability. Of course you still need to test with a high load tool, like Prime95, to check out your cooling and long term load stability, but S3 provides its own unique stress test, swinging up and down in load and hence CPU speed and voltage (unless these are fixed in the BIOS). Maybe it doesn't matter, if you don't use S3. But maybe it finds something that would otherwise show up as occasional random blue screens as day to day use causes the same load swings. IMO it is best to be in a position where it is impossible to crash the PC, not just avoid things, like S3, if they crash.

Anyway, a fixed voltage (1.26v) works. S3 solidly reliable. So I guess I'll stick with that. When I got my best results using an offset I was up to an offset of +0.12, so the voltage much of the time would have been up around 1.2+ anyway, even if it had worked!
Edited by Jong1 - 9/10/12 at 8:49am
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Hi All,

Looking for some feedback on pairing one of these two boards with an i5 3570k from Microcenter.

I am not planning on using SLI nor overclocking. The boards look identical with the exception of the SATA and USB ports (that and no SLI on the cheaper board).

What conerns me about the GA-Z77-DS3H is that it has a smaller chipset heatsink and no heatsink to the left of the processor. Is this because there is no adjustable v-core and would cause those components to heat up more? Also I am currently using a N650-DS4 board with ALC888 audio, the GA-Z77-DS3H uses ALC887, is this significantly worse?

Any input would be appreciated.

GA-Z77-DS3H (Price match with newegg to 89.99 -$50 combo bundle) $39.99
http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...el_Motherboard

GA-Z77X-D3H (144.99 - $15 MIR - $50 combo bundle) $79.99
http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...el_Motherboard
post #3617 of 6656
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Hi guys. In a later post, and also now in my rig info, I said th CPU is a 3770k.
Yeah, I tried setting all to auto except the multiplier. Still S3 is unreliable. I have also tried disabling hybrid sleep. In fact I did that for testing anyway - it allows me to swiftly sleep and resume multiple times to test for reliability.
For a few generations of Intel tech now I've come the the conclusion that S3 is a very good test of ultimate stability. Of course you still need to test with a high load tool, like Prime95, to check out your cooling and long term load stability, but S3 provides its own unique stress test, swinging up and down in load and hence CPU speed and voltage (unless these are fixed in the BIOS). Maybe it doesn't matter, if you don't use S3. But maybe it finds something that would otherwise show up as occasional random blue screens as day to day use causes the same load swings. IMO it is best to be in a position where it is impossible to crash the PC, not just avoid things, like S3, if they crash.
Anyway, a fixed voltage (1.26v) works. S3 solidly reliable. So I guess I'll stick with that. When I got my best results using an offset I was up to an offset of +0.12, so the voltage much of the time would have been up around 1.2+ anyway, even if it had worked!
When you say the voltage would have been "up around 1.2+ anyway", what exactly do you mean? At idle? As long as you have all power saving enabled in the BIOS and using DVID offset, the voltage will drop down somewhere between oh, .8v - .9v. Both my UD5H rigs run a 24/7 x45 OC and I always use DVID offset and they function fine.
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Hmm. you could be right. I'm new to this offset thing. But I thought the offset was added to the VID. My VIDs are about 0.9 at idle and 1-1.1 as soon as anything happens. 1.236 at load. So ignoring idle I figured i would typically be getting 1.1+0.12 = 1.22 (little droop at that load). But maybe I'm working it out wrong and maybe I was exaggerating a little too. Anyway, I can't get sleep stable @4.4 using an offset, so I have little choice (unless I want to reduce my OC I guess!).

Good to hear S3 works fine for you at 4.5? It might be hard to compare with your water cooled system, but what are your BIOS settings?
Edited by Jong1 - 9/10/12 at 2:50pm
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Hi guys. Noob here at Overclock.net redface.gif This seems the place to discuss Z77X-UD5H overclocking.

I'm not trying to do anything excessive here. Pretty happy with a good 100% stable 4.4Ghz overclock. But it must be stable not only running Prime etc. but also entering/returning from S3. This is a must for me.

I have it working perfectly using.

- 44 multiplier
- 1.26 vcore
- Turbo Vcore LLC
- XMP profile1 memory

...that's it.

Max core temp running Prime95 blend at those settings is 67C.

When I use this and fully load the CPUs CPU-Z reports 1.248 - 1.236 and my VID is 1.2360.

So I decided I wanted to stop using a constant vcore and instead use a DVID offset. Seems sensible to reduce power consumption at light load if I can. An offset of +0.04V gives me almost exactly the same load vcore, In fact it oscillates a little higher 1.248 - 1.260, which should work, I think, but it does not. The PC will boot and run Prime stably, but it almost always hangs on resume from S3. This is true for offset values from 0.01-0.05V.

I haven't even tried taking the offset higher because there seems little point in running a significantly higher voltage under load putting the CPU under real additional temp and voltage stress, just to save a few watts at low load!

Why is it not stable when the vcore varies under load, even though it is stable at a lower vcore than set when using DVID? Is there some other setting I also need to tweak to get DVID working? I did think of changing the Vcore LLC to extreme, but generally this seems to be thought not a good idea unless using subzero cooling.

Any thoughts gratefully received!
Hi folks, I'm a newbie too, possibly even a more severe case than Jong1 proclaims for himself (because at least he tried to overclock). You'll see my configuration in my profile, and it looks like I match Jong1's. I never have a reason to put the computer to sleep (as it serves up stuff), and last night I tried plugging in Jong1's numbers. May anyone who reads this please advise on whether those are good numbers for a conservative overclock that doesn't risk damaging my system? I do professional editing on Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 and need all the power I can get, but not to an extent that risks instability or hardware failure. I do like the way (at least so far that I've noticed) the system automatically sinks back down to 1.6 GHz when I'm doing light tasks, but flares up to 4.4 GHz when I'm in the Premiere editing environment scrubbing AVCHD footage. I must say that ticking up the voltage, though, was worrying for no other reason than that it was quite a few clicks up.

Thanks for any advice. For example, since sleep mode is never in the cards, should I go with all these settings except to change from the constant vcore to a DVID offset of +0.04V? And are they all good numbers?
Edited by hpmoon - 9/10/12 at 3:17pm
post #3620 of 6656
Hey guys, i just bought an extra FAN for my Hyper evo cooler.

its a 3 pin, I connected that to Sys_fan_3 ... and it works fine ..but the problem its that is at a constant 1461 RPM

while the cpu fan is 670rpm and rises as cpu temp goes up ..

i went into bios PC health status > 1st/2nd/3rd system fan control > manual > i changed to different voltage but my fan still at 1461 rpm

i even use easy tune to slow it down, but doesnt matter what speed i set it to and save .. it doesnt do anything

is there any other way to slow it down to slow rpm?

or even better set it to the same auto as the CPU fan? low rpm when temp is low and higher rpm as cpu temp goes up?

Thanks
Edited by Kaarosu - 9/10/12 at 5:18pm
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