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Hi folks, I'm a newbie too, possibly even a more severe case than Jong1 proclaims for himself (because at least he tried to overclock). You'll see my configuration in my profile, and it looks like I match Jong1's. I never have a reason to put the computer to sleep (as it serves up stuff), and last night I tried plugging in Jong1's numbers. May anyone who reads this please advise on whether those are good numbers for a conservative overclock that doesn't risk damaging my system? I do professional editing on Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 and need all the power I can get, but not to an extent that risks instability or hardware failure. I do like the way (at least so far that I've noticed) the system automatically sinks back down to 1.6 GHz when I'm doing light tasks, but flares up to 4.4 GHz when I'm in the Premiere editing environment scrubbing AVCHD footage. I must say that ticking up the voltage, though, was worrying for no other reason than that it was quite a few clicks up.
Thanks for any advice. For example, since sleep mode is never in the cards, should I go with all these settings except to change from the constant vcore to a DVID offset of +0.04V? And are they all good numbers?
What's your vcore at rest? As long as the freq and vcore is idling down I don't see any harm in a mild OC like x44. Like I said, I have 2xUD5H boards running X45 all the time, (well one isn't on ALL the time and one is). Many of us run x45 or higher all the time, in fact all 3 desktops in my pc room run at x45. In this house the only reason a cpu isn't overclocked is because it ain't possible. wink.gif
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Overclocking my 3570K tonight. So far i started with 4.6Ghz @ 1.3v and it crashed ~ 10 mins of Prime95, Added 1.325v and it crashed ~ 1 hour. Now i am ~ 1.355v ~ (1.345v under load) and its been going at it. I feel like its a bit too much voltage for 4.6Ghz/ Hitting 81C in the hottest core.
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Hi folks, I'm a newbie too, possibly even a more severe case than Jong1 proclaims for himself (because at least he tried to overclock). You'll see my configuration in my profile, and it looks like I match Jong1's. I never have a reason to put the computer to sleep (as it serves up stuff), and last night I tried plugging in Jong1's numbers. May anyone who reads this please advise on whether those are good numbers for a conservative overclock that doesn't risk damaging my system? I do professional editing on Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 and need all the power I can get, but not to an extent that risks instability or hardware failure. I do like the way (at least so far that I've noticed) the system automatically sinks back down to 1.6 GHz when I'm doing light tasks, but flares up to 4.4 GHz when I'm in the Premiere editing environment scrubbing AVCHD footage. I must say that ticking up the voltage, though, was worrying for no other reason than that it was quite a few clicks up.
Thanks for any advice. For example, since sleep mode is never in the cards, should I go with all these settings except to change from the constant vcore to a DVID offset of +0.04V? And are they all good numbers?
What's your vcore at rest? As long as the freq and vcore is idling down I don't see any harm in a mild OC like x44. Like I said, I have 2xUD5H boards running X45 all the time, (well one isn't on ALL the time and one is). Many of us run x45 or higher all the time, in fact all 3 desktops in my pc room run at x45. In this house the only reason a cpu isn't overclocked is because it ain't possible. wink.gif
Hi, thanks for the answer. I'm comfortable, as you note, at leaving my multiplier at x44 as I find while keeping CPU-Z loaded that the Core Speed sinks to 1601.xx MHz whenever I'm surfing the Web, etc., but only jumps up to 4404.xx MHz when engaged in video editing. But what I was really focusing on in my prior email was voltage, not the multiplier.

If I'm looking at the right spot in CPU-Z, my "Core Voltage" holds steady at 1.248 V whether I'm Web surfing, etc. with less processor-intensive stuff, or pushing my 3770K to the limit in Premiere. Isn't this the product of Jong1's initial settings, and is that what he/she was asking about? Should I be giving the Core Voltage some latitude to ramp down during those many many hours when I'm not video editing? Thanks in advance.
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Hey guys, i just bought an extra FAN for my Hyper evo cooler.
its a 3 pin, I connected that to Sys_fan_3 ... and it works fine ..but the problem its that is at a constant 1461 RPM
while the cpu fan is 670rpm and rises as cpu temp goes up ..
i went into bios PC health status > 1st/2nd/3rd system fan control > manual > i changed to different voltage but my fan still at 1461 rpm
i even use easy tune to slow it down, but doesnt matter what speed i set it to and save .. it doesnt do anything
is there any other way to slow it down to slow rpm?
or even better set it to the same auto as the CPU fan? low rpm when temp is low and higher rpm as cpu temp goes up?
Thanks
You really should replace that fan with a 4-pin PWM fan. Some come with a two way splitter to combine with your existing. If not you can buy them e.g http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lead-Pwm-Fan-Splitter-Braided/dp/B007QT3MY4 (just an an example, obviously you wouldn't buy there!). Then both fans will ramp up and down together as you want.
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Hi, thanks for the answer. I'm comfortable, as you note, at leaving my multiplier at x44 as I find while keeping CPU-Z loaded that the Core Speed sinks to 1601.xx MHz whenever I'm surfing the Web, etc., but only jumps up to 4404.xx MHz when engaged in video editing. But what I was really focusing on in my prior email was voltage, not the multiplier.
If I'm looking at the right spot in CPU-Z, my "Core Voltage" holds steady at 1.248 V whether I'm Web surfing, etc. with less processor-intensive stuff, or pushing my 3770K to the limit in Premiere. Isn't this the product of Jong1's initial settings, and is that what he/she was asking about? Should I be giving the Core Voltage some latitude to ramp down during those many many hours when I'm not video editing? Thanks in advance.
Using an offset will make the voltage ramp up and down, but as you see from my example it can be harder to get it 100% stable (i cant at the moment @4.4). I would not worry about running 1.26 long term. Apart from fact you are using more power, it is a modest and safe step up. And the power consumption varies with clock speed as well as voltage, so you will still use less power when stepped down than when running at 4.4.

You should check your temps and stability when running at load though, using something like Prime95. Several hours testing (ideally overnight) is needed. But check immediately you start and for the first few mins to be sure you are not cooking your CPU! Your cooler should easily be up to it, but it is best to check. If it were poorly seated you could still have probs.

(ps. I'm a "he" smile.gif )
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Does anyone know the difference between "Normal" and "Standard" for the Vcore LLC setting?
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Hi, thanks for the answer. I'm comfortable, as you note, at leaving my multiplier at x44 as I find while keeping CPU-Z loaded that the Core Speed sinks to 1601.xx MHz whenever I'm surfing the Web, etc., but only jumps up to 4404.xx MHz when engaged in video editing. But what I was really focusing on in my prior email was voltage, not the multiplier.
If I'm looking at the right spot in CPU-Z, my "Core Voltage" holds steady at 1.248 V whether I'm Web surfing, etc. with less processor-intensive stuff, or pushing my 3770K to the limit in Premiere. Isn't this the product of Jong1's initial settings, and is that what he/she was asking about? Should I be giving the Core Voltage some latitude to ramp down during those many many hours when I'm not video editing? Thanks in advance.
As Jong1 already said, offset OC, and leaving the EIST, C3/C6 options on Auto will allow the freq and vcore to idle down when not needed. I personally don't have any problems with offset OC on either of my boards, and I have sleep enabled and fully functional.
As long as you're using a recent iteration of CPU-Z it shoud show proper vcore, or I sometimes prefer more detailed info and so I use HWINFO , and I configure it for whatever temps/volts/etc I want to monitor including graphics card.
What you should do, as noted, and IMO, is to run the latest version of Prime 95 with >90% memory use for at the least a few hours, or preferably +12- 18 hours to check stability. During this time monitor Event Viewer from time to time and make sure you get no WHEA error 19 notices. If you do, you are not 100% stable and need to increase offset/vcore one way or another. Keep an eye out for temps while testing as this will stress out your system to max temps and you will find out quick if your cooling is sufficient.
Honestly a x44 OC is not what I would call a massive OC, but is more at the transistion point where many cpu's start wanting more vcore for stability.
All cpu's are different! So don't be confused by what DVID offset settings someone else uses if they don't apply to you. I have two 3770K's and both are different in their requirements for offset voltage, although in the end both have pretty much the same max vcore under load.
After working with it a while you get a feel for whether increasing offset or LLC will help the most, I usually configure my x45 OC's for a little droop as long as it doesn't affect stability. Monitor results.txt log in Prime 95 and it will show if one of the workers quit, meaning you have to start over usually with more vcore/offset. I usually erase mine after each run so I don't have to scroll to China to see current results.
HTH.
Edited by mandrix - 9/11/12 at 4:11am
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Mandrix, accepting all you say about differing CPUs, can you share your offset, vcore LLC and any other settings you think are important for your 2 3770k processors? I would like to understand if I should try to push higher than a .12 offset, to say .15, which seems OTT to me. but maybe not?
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Finally got it to 4.6Ghz stable @ 1.345v. @ 80C. Is it safe to push it further?
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Mandrix, accepting all you say about differing CPUs, can you share your offset, vcore LLC and any other settings you think are important for your 2 3770k processors? I would like to understand if I should try to push higher than a .12 offset, to say .15, which seems OTT to me. but maybe not?
I have one running at 0.00 offset and Medium LLC, another running +.020 offset and High LLC. A fellow I helped a little with his OC is running +.045 offset with his overclock, yet his max vcore in Prime 95 is less than mine. That's why I say all cpu's are different. BTW, that's also 3 identical motherboards as well. (2 x UD5H, 1 x UD5H Wifi)

(missed quoting this one)
Finally got it to 4.6Ghz stable @ 1.345v. @ 80C. Is it safe to push it further?
Sure. If you're worried about temp your OK. One of my 3770K's runs up in the 90's on water at just x45 in Prime 95 (yeah, it sucks. hottest chip I've seen)
Edited by mandrix - 9/11/12 at 4:57pm
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