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Hey guys. I'm picking up a 3570k and looking at motherboards.

How good is the z77x-ud3h? It fits my budget and looks good. I'm mainly after something reliable that will make overclocking easy for me. I'm a newb at it. smile.gif
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UD3H is one of the best boards for $150 thumb.gif. Some people had problems with VIA USB ports in the past, but those should be fixed by now.
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Originally Posted by Droogie View Post

Hey guys. I'm picking up a 3570k and looking at motherboards.
How good is the z77x-ud3h? It fits my budget and looks good. I'm mainly after something reliable that will make overclocking easy for me. I'm a newb at it. smile.gif

It's good, but don't pay $150 for it when that's the price of the Z77X-UP4 TH today on NCIX. (I got my UD3H for $120 from NCIX in Sept...)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75125&vpn=GA%2DZ77X%2DUP4%2DTH&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1258

UP4 is newer;Ultra Durable 5 instead of Ultra Durable 4 and has Thunderbolt. The difference between Ultra Durable 5 and 4 is PowIR stage. http://www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/312/images/PowIRstage.html , http://www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/312/images/ultra-durable.html

It also has Realtek ALC892 instead of VIA VT2021.

Comparison:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/comparison/list.aspx?ck=2&pids=4153,4280

EDIT: If rear e-sata port is important to you then the UD3H is better. The UP5 TH has voltage readout and esata but runs $240ish, UD5H is $200ish...

EDIT 2: also I think UP4 has same power phases (6+2).
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Gigabyte-Z77X-UP4-TH-Motherboard/1608/6 , http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Gigabyte-Z77X-UD3H-Motherboard/1520/6
Edited by AlphaC - 10/11/12 at 2:48pm
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UD3H is one of the best boards for $150 thumb.gif. Some people had problems with VIA USB ports in the past, but those should be fixed by now.

Somewhere in this topic there was someone saying that the Internet port/driver on UD3H have difficulty handling 3X Torrent Downloading(would crash and cause you to lose internet connection for a while), if you never download that much stuff at the same time that won't be an issue for you. UD3H is definitely a good board for its price point.
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Somewhere in this topic there was someone saying that the Internet port/driver on UD3H have difficulty handling 3X Torrent Downloading(would crash and cause you to lose internet connection for a while), if you never download that much stuff at the same time that won't be an issue for you. UD3H is definitely a good board for its price point.

UD5H second LAN is the same. I don't experience such problems. Probably driver issue.

I may test that over the weekends to confirm though.
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It's good, but don't pay $150 for it when that's the price of the Z77X-UP4 TH today on NCIX. (I got my UD3H for $120 from NCIX in Sept...)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75125&vpn=GA%2DZ77X%2DUP4%2DTH&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1258
UP4 is newer;Ultra Durable 5 instead of Ultra Durable 4 and has Thunderbolt. The difference between Ultra Durable 5 and 4 is PowIR stage. http://www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/312/images/PowIRstage.html , http://www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/312/images/ultra-durable.html
It also has Realtek ALC892 instead of VIA VT2021.
Comparison:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/comparison/list.aspx?ck=2&pids=4153,4280

Wow that's awesome!

Get it before the deal runs out!
Edited by DeXel - 10/11/12 at 2:33pm
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This has evolved into a huge frustration for me! I invested in three new premium 4-pin fans with PWM control capability, and plugged them into the 4-pin PWM headers on the UD5H motherboard. Firstly, they spin at full speed no matter what the BIOS setting (standard, silent, custom at all values). Secondly, EasyTune6 only slightly adjusts the SYS fan speeds down, even with the most extreme plots on its graph -- and the application crashes on its own (Windows 7 64-bit) consistently within an hour or so of doing nothing. Thirdly, HWMonitor Pro and SpeedFan simply do not control PWM fan speed, period, even though they are advertised to be capable of it. Fourth, and worst of all: there is not a single fan controller on the market that controls PWM fans with 4-pin connectors. No joke!
The fact that there is no demand for these minimum requirements, from a fan controller to a firmware fix, suggests that hardly any consumers spend the time to figure these things out (far from rocket science)!

I had used speedfan on my now retired computer for a few years to control the speed of the cpu fan.

Based on hpmoon's post I downloaded the most recent version of speedfan to see if I could get it to control SYSFAN_1 as this is the only fan header that I have a fan connected that can be controlled. As reported earlier, this fan header can be voltage controlled as well as pwm. As I have a 3-pin fan connected to it I confirmed that ET6 was able to control this fan's speed. Then I used speedfan to successfully control same fan. Although I can't confirm as I don't have a 4-pin fan, I believe speedfan can separately control three sets of fans. One via cpu fan header, one through SYSFAN_1 fan header, and one through SYSFAN_2 and 3 fan header. Again, as already reported, cpu fan header and SYSFAN_1 fan header can control either by voltage or pwm. SYSFAN_2 and 3 can only be controlled via pwm. SYSFAN_4 cannot be controlled through the motherboard.

I admit ET6 is not very useful when it comes to controlling the system fans as it can only adjust the fans based on the system temp which does not vary much. And it seems to crash often.
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Yeah, I don't know what they were thinking with the fan headers, especially header 4 full on voltage all the time. Maybe that's one of the things that finally pushed me into water cooling.
Interesting. Could it be (as you note) that SpeedFan is designed soley for 3-pin, non-PWM fan speed control (even though it mentions PWM), and that's why you could achieve discrete control of each system fan header connected to 3-pin, non-PWM fans? As I mentioned, all my system fans are 4-pin PWM and SpeedFan appears to have no control over them, starting from those boxes with up and down arrows that are 100% by default (without automatic control checked).

I also note in mandrix's comment that the fourth system fan header has no speed control as a matter of hardware, if I'm reading correctly.

In sum: could it be that writing software to control PWM fan speeds is a motherboard-specific task and simply doesn't offer much support because of that? As I also mentioned, HWMonitor Pro+ similarly gives no PWM fan speed control, despite advertising itself as such.
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Interesting. Could it be (as you note) that SpeedFan is designed soley for 3-pin, non-PWM fan speed control (even though it mentions PWM), and that's why you could achieve discrete control of each system fan header connected to 3-pin, non-PWM fans? As I mentioned, all my system fans are 4-pin PWM and SpeedFan appears to have no control over them, starting from those boxes with up and down arrows that are 100% by default (without automatic control checked).
I also note in mandrix's comment that the fourth system fan header has no speed control as a matter of hardware, if I'm reading correctly.
In sum: could it be that writing software to control PWM fan speeds is a motherboard-specific task and simply doesn't offer much support because of that? As I also mentioned, HWMonitor Pro+ similarly gives no PWM fan speed control, despite advertising itself as such.


On the UD5H fans work this way.

In SpeedFan:
Fan1=CPU_FAN
Fan2=SYS_FAN1
Fan3=SYS_FAN2
Fan4=SYS_FAN3
Fan5=SYS_FAN4

Temp1=mobo
Temp2=z77 PCH
Temp3=CPU-mobo
Cores0/1/2/3 need +20 offset to be correct

PWM1=CPU_FAN --> Voltage (3-pin fan)
PWM2=SYS_FAN1/2/3
PWM3=CPU_FAN --> PWM (4-pin fan)

No voltages shown yet, it takes a while for new hardware to be supported.

//
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If that is true then I can show you (hpmoon) how to control your pwm fans using Speedfan and the fan headers on your motherboard..

Thanks cab2.
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Hey I'm curious AlphaC, I also purchased my UD3H from NCIX for 120 in september and was surprised and angry to find that some time (maybe a few days even) after I was charged the 119.99 for the board they also hit my account for some stupid 96 cent international or something fee (im in usa as is their california location). They do the same to you?
    
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Interesting. Could it be (as you note) that SpeedFan is designed soley for 3-pin, non-PWM fan speed control (even though it mentions PWM), and that's why you could achieve discrete control of each system fan header connected to 3-pin, non-PWM fans? As I mentioned, all my system fans are 4-pin PWM and SpeedFan appears to have no control over them, starting from those boxes with up and down arrows that are 100% by default (without automatic control checked).
I also note in mandrix's comment that the fourth system fan header has no speed control as a matter of hardware, if I'm reading correctly.
In sum: could it be that writing software to control PWM fan speeds is a motherboard-specific task and simply doesn't offer much support because of that? As I also mentioned, HWMonitor Pro+ similarly gives no PWM fan speed control, despite advertising itself as such.

In order to control fan speeds in speedfan you have to go to Configure>Advanced>select IT872BF from dropdown and set the PWM fans to on/off.
    
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