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Well my NIC isn't supported on this driver anyway. That driver only supports 815x, not 816x, which is what I have.


Wait what are you referring to?

This driver?

 

Where did you find that list? I'm confused now because Gigabyte's website has 2.1.0.7 while this one is 2.1.0.13, which looks like an older version.

    
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post #4802 of 6656
13 > 7.

0.13 < 0.7

Sometimes driver version is confusing to read, but I think it's the first case now, so 13 is newer.
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13 > 7.

0.13 < 0.7

Sometimes driver version is confusing to read, but I think it's the first case now, so 13 is newer.

Oh. I guess Atheros is too cool for math laws.

    
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13 > 7.

0.13 < 0.7

Sometimes driver version is confusing to read, but I think it's the first case now, so 13 is newer.
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you gotta cool it down and use less volts. Ivy can also degrade, like don't be pushing it too hard at 1.5v+ like 100% load you are just asking to degrade it if you are above ambient and stressing it hard at 1.5v+. I only use over 1.5v to test max frequency, and even then I wont boot over 1.5v, i keep the load at high voltages as little as possible.

Well I've even run 1.6v (before delid, getting a feel for chips). I had 88*c on hyperpi and then instant bsod on p95 (5ghz/1.6v). 5.1/1.6v froze at boot animation, and would freeze in bios 10 seconds in. I dont know if degradation is the issue, because the other chip I tested acted similarly - actually, it acted worse (about 100mhz worse, ie what would be a p95 fail 20 minutes in the 'better' chip would be instant bsod in p95, what would be instant bsod in login or hyperpi would be no boot on the other). I mean the 2nd chip, the first thing I did was run 4.5ghz/1.5v, and then try to keep raising frequency using gigabyte tweaklauncher and it acted similar to this first, better chip, but slightly worse (loads up 4.9, but instead of failing at 5.1ghz, it would fail at 5ghz, by just throttling to stock frequency though).

Now maybe the chip hit like 100+ and i just didn't know because it was an instant bsod, but I've never actually seen temps go above 100. I saw 99*C for a second on 4.8@1.55v, it bsod's instantly. But otherwise my temps are pretty good, like around 4.6ghz@1.4vcore, I'm hitting a max of 79*C (that's probably the 8fft length) and generally its 55-65*C the whole time (as in if i reset the temps on hwinfo after the 8fft length, and come back 12 hours later, the max will be under 70*C). I also ran 8fft length min/max custom and 88*C was my max at like 4.6ghz@1.4v i believe (setting might be slightly different but something like that).
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You are dealing with Ivy Bridge. My chip also need ridiculous amount of voltage for anything above 4.4-4.5 Ghz. That's pretty much normal if you got a bad chip. I really hope Haswell is going to be better...

Could you explain the profile of your bad chip? 4.6ghz at 1.3v was instant bsod in login, 1.35v was bsod in 5 minutes p95, 1.4v was a single error on 3rd core 19 hours into p95. With me having changed the PWM settings (pwm phase at eXtreme performance, vcore phase at fast, and vcore llc at extreme), I've been running 4.6ghz@1.375v on p95 for like 5 hours now no problem. Maybe it'll fail at 12+ hours again and just mildly like an error instead of bsod, but it felt to me that changing the pwm settings as i did, helped gain some stability (ie what was instant bsod on 1.3v, is just p95 bsod after a minute, what was 5 min bsod on 1.35v, is like 20 minute). I'm thinking I can maybe get 24 hour stable on slightly less voltage than 1.4v.

It passing 24 hours might just be luck on 1.4v, but on slightly less voltage than what failed before, with these changed settings, i think would be telling that these pwm settings help.
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Oh man... I don't really remember exact voltages, but I needed about ~1.4v to boot with 4.6 Ghz, but the system would BSOD after few minutes of Intel Burn Test, or give an error in AIDA64. Temps were skyrocket high too (100+ C). Currently using it at 4.5Ghz with ~1.36v, and temps stay below 80, and going to keep this way until I see what Haswell brings.
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Did you delid? That sounds about right. But I have 2 chips like that. Both bought from different stores even. Try what I did and change all those pwm settings, its helping me. i mean to be sure we'll see in ~18 hours but i failed on worker 3 at the 19th hour on 4.6@1.4v, and now I'm testing 4.6@1.375 and it seems smooth with the pwm phase at extreme perf, vcore voltage change at fast, and llc at extreme. ill probably try to figure out which of those is the helper tommorow. I was thinking of increasing the cpu switch rate too, from 500khz to like 600khz or something but not sure if thats safe. the phase on these boards doesnt get hot at all so why not.
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A few questions-

- ram settings, what is 'performance enhance' setting for? can't figure that out.

- what's up with those "uefi vs legacy' settings in the boot options? is that to turn off that 3d mode uefi? because that thing is ugly, i hate the 3d bios.

- What is the cpu pwm switch rate, is 600, the max value, dangerous at all (i mean on the ud5h no way this phase is gonna get hot on even 1.6v, right? im assuming in hwinfo those are my vrm temps because it matches my nzxt sentry 2 sensor readings). thinking of setting that 600 just because im struggling so much here and changing some of the pwm values already has helped my overclock a noticeable amount.

- How do you do offset voltage control on this board? cant figure that out either

- and do people overclock using turbo? i think ive read a few places about that... like you dont increase core ratio, you set your overclock using turbo. i think im just getting myself confused here.

like eventually i want to use the power saving features (i assume use offset voltage, manually set core ratio to 4.5ghz+, work with the offset voltage to match it to the vcore that was stable using manual voltage and p95 test it to make sure, keep LLC and those pwm settings the same as before when doing manual voltage).

thanks. i was a bit overwhelmed with the bios settings at first, but now i seem to understand all of them. its all so self explanatory, for the most part. biostar had a bit too much "X: increase X to have more X". i feel like this board has a lot less options than the gigabyte board did, yet feels like it has more control at the same time (all those pwm and llc settings...).
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Nope didn't delid it. This CPU doesn't worth it.

UEFI vs legacy is all about GPT vs MBR boots. Also with UEFI boot you can use fast boot and secure boot of Windows 8.

Offset is called DVID on these boards. It's in the same menu as vcore. You have to set vcore to normal to enable it.

Turbo vs Core ratio seem to be the same thing on these boards, but somebody can correct me if I am wrong. I just have EIST enabled and the multiplier jumps.
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I really dislike the way the menu is in this sysytem. I wish on the right they'd at least say what your options are. Like how am I supposed to know to type in "Lite PWM". And it's capital sensitive too...

Yea, the manual, I know. But some of these things I wouldn't think twice that about that. I thought that 'auto' was normal, that that you just set 1-2-3-4 for corresponding high/low on the pwm settings, etc.

rep, thx.

I think I'll probably end up with some measly overclock on 1.45v. On your guide Sin0822, you said that max for air was like 1.55v. I guess you mean for benching or something, that wasnt' made clear and from what I read elsewhere (1.6v 24/7 no degradation) and just my propensity to raise the crap outta voltage (i tend to push hardware really hard) i think i saw 1.6v as the highest for 24/7 overclock on air (provided temps stayed within reason, which it doesn't unless you delid and have decent cooling, which i do, although nh-d14 might be the lower limit of that).

Or rather, 1.6v was what I wanted to hear. like i just want to throw 1.6v and see highest frequency i can get lol. i dont care anymore about sweet spots and marginal returns, if .2v gets me 100mhz, even 50, im pretty okay with that.

Obviously i dont want to run the chip into the ground, and I'd like to avoid serious degradation, but provided I keep temps within acceptable limits (since temps affect stability anyways, not as much an issue of damage) I'm okay with high voltages. I guess I'll keep 1.45 as my limit, maybe go up to 1.49 only if that what it takes to get that extra 100mhz or something but otherwise 1.45.
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