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I'm very puzzled by the UEFI. It seems that no matter how I cange MIT settings (Vcore, Multiplier), as soon as I get into Windows, vcore is set at 1.275v and the multiplier at 37x.

What am I missing here?

I think with IB/SB, you overclock using the Turbo Ratio. So what the Gigabyte boards do, that "Core Ratio" value, it's actually just a "Set the Same Turbo Ratio for All Cores" value.

I'm a bit confused by it, but I believe that Turbo is really a feature for people on stock/near stock, you use it to get a power boost when on a lower load or using less cores. When you are overclocking, you are pushing everything to the limit, so Turbo is a useless feature, even for energy-efficient overclocking.

I think the best way to overclock on these gigabytes, ib, sb, etc, is just set the turbo ratio/core ratio (one and the same, i believe), and keep all energy saving options on (from what I understand, they don't really affect stability, people saying to disable power saving features is like a throwback from a long time ago, like when people incorrectly say you gotta keep imc and vtt voltages related with .05v or something, although c1e and such might cause instability on low load/idle/sleep but that's not like during p95 testing).

On my board/bios, if you have turbo enabled and turbo values entered, it'll override the core ratio setting, whereas on my msi g41 board, it's the opposite. Just disable your turbo (or conversely, just set your overclock by changing all turbo core ratios to desired overclock).
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Thanks, I did try that 313 beta driver, but my Windows 8 64-bit system hangs after passing BIOS as usual. Really getting desperate! I wish I could at least hear from someone who has successfully booted into Windows 8 64-bit using a GTX 285.

Have you tried just using Windows 8 generic graphics driver and not the NVIDIA driver? May at least give you a workable solution.
I suppose you mean just uninstalling the Nvidia driver and seeing what happens. Because Adobe's GPU-accelerated Mercury Playback Engine leverages the GTX 285 intimately for hardware acceleration of on-the-fly video processing, I'm skeptical that it will function without any Nvidia driver, but I'll give it a whirl (skeptically). The larger point is that I'm stunned Windows 8 is incompatible with my GTX 285 using any drivers since 1/2 year ago.
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Offset values add and subtract from VID. Use Core Temp to figure out your current VID.

Thanks, now I get it.

My VID is 0.9257v at idle, 1.1709v at load (Prime95 1 hour) according to CoreTemp. This is with my CPU at stock speed (max 3.8GHz Turbo all cores). Does this seem right or too high?



So now I need to know how much voltage I need for 4.2GHz. And then add or substract the offset.



But I'm still kind of confused. What's the real voltage then? Why the VID is at 1.1709v and CPU-Z reports 1.116v?
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Vdroop, it also gets larger as you start overclocking.
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VID is different for every CPU. So are the voltages to get 4.2 Ghz stable. I can only recommend that you start with fixed voltage to find stable settings, and then switch to offset to make things easier.
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What's the real voltage then? Why the VID is at 1.1709v and CPU-Z reports 1.116v?

Don't you have offset at -0.030 and LLC on Normal? Looks about right.
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Vdroop, it also gets larger as you start overclocking.

Holy crap it's a massive droop.



Now I just set the LLC to Extreme and the vCore on CPU-Z is 1.176, so much closer to the VID.

I'm getting the trick now biggrin.gif
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VID is different for every CPU. So are the voltages to get 4.2 Ghz stable. I can only recommend that you start with fixed voltage to find stable settings, and then switch to offset to make things easier.
Don't you have offset at -0.030 and LLC on Normal? Looks about right.

No, for that reading I had everything on stock an auto. So no LLC or offset.
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I suppose you mean just uninstalling the Nvidia driver and seeing what happens. Because Adobe's GPU-accelerated Mercury Playback Engine leverages the GTX 285 intimately for hardware acceleration of on-the-fly video processing, I'm skeptical that it will function without any Nvidia driver, but I'll give it a whirl (skeptically). The larger point is that I'm stunned Windows 8 is incompatible with my GTX 285 using any drivers since 1/2 year ago.

Are you using a dvi cable for connection? Does the 285 have dual dvi outs? If yes to both, make sure you are using the dvi–out closest to the mobo, or the lower dvi port. A long shot, but worth a try.
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I decided I'll go for 4.4GHz max.


So I did as you told me and set a fixed voltage. With 1.155v I was able to boot right into Windows (1.150v freezes in BIOS).

So I did the Prime95 Blend test for 10min, CPU-Z reported 1.152v - 1.140v at full load, and it remained stable for that time.

What should I do now?
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Prime stable means at least few hours long stressing. People recommend at least 12 hours. Then just + or - offset from VID to get similar voltage as fixed.
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