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Prime stable means at least few hours long stressing. People recommend at least 12 hours. Then just + or - offset from VID to get similar voltage as fixed.

I don't plan to use fixed 24/7.

It was just to find the vCore I needed for 4.4GHz.


Do you think I should test Prime95 8-12hours with offset now? Try to get it as close as 1.155v?


By the way, is it recommend to get the vCore as close as the VID as possible, or if I can run it lower I should? Because my VID was like 1.1909v.
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Which BIOS? What are you using to check voltages and overclock? Are yu using Real Temp? Disable Turbo Boost, and only use main multiplier. Also several beta BIOSes had this problem.

BIOS F18. I'm using Core Temp, Gigabyte Tweak Launcher and AIDA64 to check voltages but they all seem to report something else. Although I realize it probably me who is misinterpreting what is being reported.


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I think with IB/SB, you overclock using the Turbo Ratio. So what the Gigabyte boards do, that "Core Ratio" value, it's actually just a "Set the Same Turbo Ratio for All Cores" value.

I'm a bit confused by it, but I believe that Turbo is really a feature for people on stock/near stock, you use it to get a power boost when on a lower load or using less cores. When you are overclocking, you are pushing everything to the limit, so Turbo is a useless feature, even for energy-efficient overclocking.

I think the best way to overclock on these gigabytes, ib, sb, etc, is just set the turbo ratio/core ratio (one and the same, i believe), and keep all energy saving options on (from what I understand, they don't really affect stability, people saying to disable power saving features is like a throwback from a long time ago, like when people incorrectly say you gotta keep imc and vtt voltages related with .05v or something, although c1e and such might cause instability on low load/idle/sleep but that's not like during p95 testing).

On my board/bios, if you have turbo enabled and turbo values entered, it'll override the core ratio setting, whereas on my msi g41 board, it's the opposite. Just disable your turbo (or conversely, just set your overclock by changing all turbo core ratios to desired overclock).

Thanks! I did disable Turbo and that does indeed give me the correct clocks now after booting into Windows.

My biggest issue is understanding the terminology such as Offset and how it translates into how my BIOS calls it.

I assume that DVID is what my BIOS calls Offset? DVID= Dynamic Vcore?


[To make changes you simply highlight the setting and start typing a number, 'Normal', 'Auto', 'Extreme' or something like that? I mean, how would one know what to type, the manual isn't exactly helpful with this. Ok, I figured out that part now doh.gif]
Edited by 8bitG33k - 2/11/13 at 7:52pm
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Core Temp reports VID. Aida indeed shows vcore. GTL should show the value you set in BIOS. Use CPU-Z.
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Ok, I'm learning. Still struggling a bit with what VID is and how it factors into overclocking. I did figure out what LLC is once I went through every setting the board has to offer line by line.

Here's what I have so far. No idea if what I'm looking at is good or bad in terms of temps. I set the voltage according to the chart I found in the Ivy Bridge Overclocking Guide.



Vcore is fixed, no offset and LLC is set to Extreme.
Edited by 8bitG33k - 2/12/13 at 9:13am
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OK, so my UD5H, still running F6 BIOS I believe (never had an issue, never updated) is now experiencing a weird issue, but I can replicate it consistently and make it stop happening just as consistently. My brother had issues with 2 of his hard drives, Samsung Spinpoint F1 500GB drives. I installed them in my computer to do some trouble shooting. I can't even get the computer to go into Windows 8 with them installed. Failing to load windows, it automatically trying to fix my installation, etc etc etc.

Figure wow, my brother destroyed these things, what the hell did he do. I call seagate, RMA the drives, get brand new ones back in last night. I gave them overnight to warm up (they were sitting out on my porch when I got home). Install them this morning. I go into BIOS, change from AHCI to RAID, launch the Intel RAID utility with CTRL + I, set up the array. Go to start the system up, and SAME EXACT THING!

I disable the hard drives ports in BIOS, won't start. Disable the array, won't start. Unplug the SATA cables from the ports? starts up perfectly.

Seems to me the issue is perhaps the SATA cables putting a bit of pressure on the corner of the motherboard and causing a connectivity issue with something? I really want to install a 5th and 6th hard drive in this machine. It's the PC in the sig...

Hard drives are as follows:

SATA 0: M4 128gb SSD
SATA 1: WD 500GB Caviar Black
SATA 2: ASUS 24x DVD-RW
SATA 3: 320GB Seagate Linux drive
SATA 4: Spinpoint F1 500gb (both currently unplugged so the system will boot)
SATA 5: Spinpoint F1 500gb (both currently unplugged so the system will boot)

I'm thinking of searching around for new SATA cables, maybe they're causing it? Perhaps ones without the metal clip (SATA3 standard) as it might put a bit less bending pressure? I think I have some cables in a box somewhere that have no clip that should fit in a bit looser than these do.
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I don't get it.

I set the multi to 42, then set the Load-line calib at High, and the offset like you said, except increments are in 5, so +0.005, and I did the Prime95 test and the max voltage was 1.2v, which is too high for 4.2GHz.


So I decided that I was gonna set the offset to a negative value, I set it to -0.030, I'm running Prime95 now, max voltage is 1.116v, jumping not that frequently to 1.128v.

It's stable for now, but I think I'll crash on idle, 'cause I've seen it as low as 0.686v

I just don't understand this offset voltage thing. When I set the vCore to "Normal" to enable the "Offset Voltage" my vCore says is 1.100v, so I though if I was adding +0.05, doesn't that mean that my final result would be around 1.15v? and not 1.2v?!!!

For a 1 GHz overclock you have to give it more voltage, not less. And 1.2V or a little higher is not too much. Intel Ivy Bridge CPUs do many things automatically regardless of your settings, and will compensate to achieve stability. A +0.04 offset is a reasonable starting point. Try AIDA64 to get a better reading on voltages.
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I suppose you mean just uninstalling the Nvidia driver and seeing what happens. Because Adobe's GPU-accelerated Mercury Playback Engine leverages the GTX 285 intimately for hardware acceleration of on-the-fly video processing, I'm skeptical that it will function without any Nvidia driver, but I'll give it a whirl (skeptically). The larger point is that I'm stunned Windows 8 is incompatible with my GTX 285 using any drivers since 1/2 year ago.

Are you using a dvi cable for connection? Does the 285 have dual dvi outs? If yes to both, make sure you are using the dvi–out closest to the mobo, or the lower dvi port. A long shot, but worth a try.
Thanks for the suggestion, but that can't be it; I've got monitors connected to both of them, and neither are firing up. I don't even get the Windows 8 login jingle that takes me to the password prompt. Everything just hangs after passing BIOS. And this happens only after a mid-2012 dated Nvidia driver update. No problem before that -- except how Adobe CS6 crashes constantly without the newest Nvidia driver. Catch-22, and I'm lost!
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Hi everyone wave2.gif

Got my Z77X-D3H this morning and it's been great so far, It's a revision 1.1 board with the 8 pin CPU power connector rather than just 4 pin. The 3D BIOS/UEFI is a little confusing as I've only ever used the good old BIOS before, there's just so many options and menus, no doubt I'll get used to it though.
     
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Hey, guys. I decided to try the "Easy way to OC", just set the multiplier and let the system do the rest.

So I set it to 43 (4.3GHz) -The Turbo Multiplier, not the main- and I ran Prime95, volts at load = 1.128v, max temp 71C.

Playing PS2 it got up to 58C but stayed in mid 50s most of the time. In BF3 it reached 60C, and while recording with MSI AB 64C.

What do you think about this temps and volts? It looks good to me, but I'm not sure. I'd rather just stay with this OC and don't have to touch anything else but the multiplier.


I also tried the same method using 44 multiplier 4.4GHz, and volts got to 1.320v!!! Too much for those clocks.
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OK, so my UD5H, still running F6 BIOS I believe (never had an issue, never updated) is now experiencing a weird issue, but I can replicate it consistently and make it stop happening just as consistently. My brother had issues with 2 of his hard drives, Samsung Spinpoint F1 500GB drives. I installed them in my computer to do some trouble shooting. I can't even get the computer to go into Windows 8 with them installed. Failing to load windows, it automatically trying to fix my installation, etc etc etc.

Figure wow, my brother destroyed these things, what the hell did he do. I call seagate, RMA the drives, get brand new ones back in last night. I gave them overnight to warm up (they were sitting out on my porch when I got home). Install them this morning. I go into BIOS, change from AHCI to RAID, launch the Intel RAID utility with CTRL + I, set up the array. Go to start the system up, and SAME EXACT THING!

I disable the hard drives ports in BIOS, won't start. Disable the array, won't start. Unplug the SATA cables from the ports? starts up perfectly.

Seems to me the issue is perhaps the SATA cables putting a bit of pressure on the corner of the motherboard and causing a connectivity issue with something? I really want to install a 5th and 6th hard drive in this machine. It's the PC in the sig...

Hard drives are as follows:

SATA 0: M4 128gb SSD
SATA 1: WD 500GB Caviar Black
SATA 2: ASUS 24x DVD-RW
SATA 3: 320GB Seagate Linux drive
SATA 4: Spinpoint F1 500gb (both currently unplugged so the system will boot)
SATA 5: Spinpoint F1 500gb (both currently unplugged so the system will boot)

I'm thinking of searching around for new SATA cables, maybe they're causing it? Perhaps ones without the metal clip (SATA3 standard) as it might put a bit less bending pressure? I think I have some cables in a box somewhere that have no clip that should fit in a bit looser than these do.

May be related, maybe not, but I have one drive that doesn't always show up on boot. When it doesn't it get stuck at the Windows screen. I can shut it off, wiggle the SATA data cable and next boot it shows up in the bios. I need to try a new cable but been too lazy, and it's only an occasional thing.
Another thing I see is the BBS priorities having the same effect. If I don't leave the Marvell ports last in the BBS priorities I will get stuck on boot. I have 7 drives connected including the DVD.
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