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There's a simple registry fix to use windows 8 upgrade for a fresh install. That was absolutely retarded. Because I had upgraded to an SSD on the computer, technically, the upgrade version doesn't work, even though all I'm doing is upgrading.

Then I upgraded to a new computer. I wasn't doing a fresh install, I was simply transferring my windows 8 to my new upgrade computer. But because you are not allowed to put the windows 8 upgrade on 2 computers, I wasn't allowed to do that? All you have to do to get around that is when on the phone activation, you tell the computer automaton 'this is the only computer'. I mean it is.

Not to recommend anything grey at all here, but there's a lot of crap to deal with on the windows 8 activation and install. I totally understand it, not mad or anything at all about it, but it's just ridiculous. So a new SSD is technically a new computer? What if my current HDD breaks, does that mean I have to buy a new windows 8 as well? What if I just move the old system drive, to my new system, is that a 'fresh install'? -_-
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There's a simple registry fix to use windows 8 upgrade for a fresh install. That was absolutely retarded. Because I had upgraded to an SSD on the computer, technically, the upgrade version doesn't work, even though all I'm doing is upgrading.

Then I upgraded to a new computer. I wasn't doing a fresh install, I was simply transferring my windows 8 to my new upgrade computer. But because you are not allowed to put the windows 8 upgrade on 2 computers, I wasn't allowed to do that? All you have to do to get around that is when on the phone activation, you tell the computer automaton 'this is the only computer'. I mean it is.

Not to recommend anything grey at all here, but there's a lot of crap to deal with on the windows 8 activation and install. I totally understand it, not mad or anything at all about it, but it's just ridiculous. So a new SSD is technically a new computer? What if my current HDD breaks, does that mean I have to buy a new windows 8 as well? What if I just move the old system drive, to my new system, is that a 'fresh install'? -_-

Microsoft class the computer as the motherboard don't they? So as far as I'm aware you can change anything but the motherboard and still be alright windows 8 activation wise.

And even then as you say you can phone up the activation line and say it's only installed on one computer and you're good to go regardless of what you change. I've used my windows 8 upgrade licence on 3 different computers so far by doing this. thumb.gif
     
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I'm really thinking hard on comming back to GB. My Asus pos just don't want to cooperate evrytime I upgrade something I get memory errors. So I'm prolly going to pick a UD5H up tomorrow morning, this thread is grtting really long right now running a 2500k are there still problems with sandies or should I just take that time to grab an Ivy.
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Does anyone ever mess with the other LLCs and PWM options? Like DDR LLC, VTT LLC?

Or the switch rates? I got a bunch of thermal diodes on my VRM, as well as the i/o reporting the temps, and even when i set the cpu switch rate to 600khz they always stay below like 50*C. I don't think there was an increase in temp when I maxed out the switch rate. Why not just max these out since they run so cool on the UD3H/UD5H? I mean they can only help with performance right?
I'd love to hear specifics. It's hard to hear a good opinion on a board because everyone is so biased (yea i recommend the asrock. Why? because i own it and it hasn't blown up so it's clearly better than any other motherboard). People like you who've owned both should definitely give specifics!

I think people here would love to hear more about why gigabyte z77 is best ^^
I don't really see the problem, don't use those ports during installation. Any board can be buggy when you haven't got the drivers and such all in place yet. Windows 8 also has usb 3.0 drivers so there's no problem with w8. I mean it's as simple as just move the keyboard and mouse to a different slot when installing windows.

I really dislike how the UD5H lacks a ps/2 port. That makes no sense at all to remove it on the ud5h, it's much better for keyboards to run ps/2 than usb, and anyone with a ud5h is going to have a mechanical keyboard and care ;/

I will definitely be comparing and contrasting. I had good luck with the asrock board and I got to 4.6ghz on my 3570k in the first week. Very straightforward as far as the options in the bios go. I am waiting on a rotary 90 degree fitting for my loop otherwise I could start yackin about the gigabyte board. My fitting and some other goodies should be here tomorrow or the next day so I will definitely have to give my opinions.
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can someone explain ,why would you want win8 instead of win7 ?
There are arguments for and against windows 8. I had it installed and I used a program called startisback to get windows 8 to behave like windows 7. The only difference was that windows 8 is new and had more bugs for the variety of programs that I use.

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Because there is no reason to stick with Win 7 unless one is absolutely in love with start menu, or already has a copy installed. I find new start menu much more useful.
1. Yep.
2. No.
I find the new start menu too forceful.
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That's why other boards use ASMedia controllers, Ethia, NEC, and so many more. UD3H uses VIA USBs, and UD5H uses VIA hub, There is no problem with UD5H's implementation, but I hear so many negatives from UD3H owners...

Windows 7 was going for $30 if you were a student for about a year or two. Then they increased prices to $70.

When Windows 8 came out, it was going for $40 without any sort of student discount, and now up to ~$200. Their current student discount is $70.

So if you haven't already bought a copy, but plan to, you missed the cheapest offer.

All these prices are for upgrades. BTW OEM copy of Windows 8 is transferable from what I've heard.
I got the student edition for 17 dollars. Around the time they offered it for 40 bucks for students, they also had a coupon for so much off and I somehow got it for less than 20. I am thinking about just reloading windows 7 this time around just because windows 8 does not impress me.
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Windows 7 Upgrade activation behaves exactly the same way. Minus the fact that you didn't have to use a command key to use phone activation, but if you install it on a system without Windows on HDD, it will behave exactly the same way. Nothing new here. Previously you've probably used Windows 7 Full or OEM edition.

Also unless things changed, if you get an image of full Windows 8 disk, you won't have any problems with activation because full version install with that registry key applied, or something like that.
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I will definitely be comparing and contrasting. I had good luck with the asrock board and I got to 4.6ghz on my 3570k in the first week. Very straightforward as far as the options in the bios go. I am waiting on a rotary 90 degree fitting for my loop otherwise I could start yackin about the gigabyte board. My fitting and some other goodies should be here tomorrow or the next day so I will definitely have to give my opinions.
There are arguments for and against windows 8. I had it installed and I used a program called startisback to get windows 8 to behave like windows 7. The only difference was that windows 8 is new and had more bugs for the variety of programs that I use.
I find the new start menu too forceful.
I got the student edition for 17 dollars. Around the time they offered it for 40 bucks for students, they also had a coupon for so much off and I somehow got it for less than 20. I am thinking about just reloading windows 7 this time around just because windows 8 does not impress me.

I've always found start menu to be a joke and fairly unorganized with its folder structure. Since Vista times I've only used it for search commands. Windows 8's start menu allows that, but I can also pin cool stuff, like steam games using Steam Tile or Pin Anything. It's not anywhere perfect though. They could make it more keyboard friendly by basically creating 2 different layouts for keyboards and touch screens. Windows Store also needs quality apps. A good mail client for the start because the included one doesn't sync properly.

Student edition of Windows 8? I didn't hear of that offer frown.gif. I wish my college had DreamSpark Premium though.
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There's a simple registry fix to use windows 8 upgrade for a fresh install. That was absolutely retarded. Because I had upgraded to an SSD on the computer, technically, the upgrade version doesn't work, even though all I'm doing is upgrading.

Then I upgraded to a new computer. I wasn't doing a fresh install, I was simply transferring my windows 8 to my new upgrade computer. But because you are not allowed to put the windows 8 upgrade on 2 computers, I wasn't allowed to do that? All you have to do to get around that is when on the phone activation, you tell the computer automaton 'this is the only computer'. I mean it is.

Not to recommend anything grey at all here, but there's a lot of crap to deal with on the windows 8 activation and install. I totally understand it, not mad or anything at all about it, but it's just ridiculous. So a new SSD is technically a new computer? What if my current HDD breaks, does that mean I have to buy a new windows 8 as well? What if I just move the old system drive, to my new system, is that a 'fresh install'? -_-

Solution was even easier than that. You get it to install but it won't authenticate... then, you simply "upgrade" your windows 8 to windows 8 and it counts as the upgrade and authenticates fine. I had to do it on my brother's computer as his hard drive died during win8 install lol
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Yea that works too.
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I'm really thinking hard on comming back to GB. My Asus pos just don't want to cooperate evrytime I upgrade something I get memory errors. So I'm prolly going to pick a UD5H up tomorrow morning, this thread is grtting really long right now running a 2500k are there still problems with sandies or should I just take that time to grab an Ivy.

Sorry for quiting myself, I'm about to go hrab it and needed an answer on if there's still issues with sandies on these boards
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New BIOS is out.
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Hi all

My PC:
GA-Z77X-DH3 rev 1.0 bios F16
I5-3570K / 8MB PC12800, Corsair HX650, 6 "green" 1TB and 2TB HDD + 1 Samsung 840 pro 128 for OS W7 64bits
I have added 3 days ago a Sapphire radeon HD5770 1GB DDR5 purchased new but at low price (end of life familly)

The PC starts, but does not acces to boot at the first power on try.
Fans are running, but no beep or bios post. No display, It can stay like this indefinitly.
--> power off by button.
If the second try occur before around 2mn, it will boot succesfully, and no problem to operate under W7 64bits.
If I let the PC go into sleep mode, it can go out of sleep mode properly if I hit the keyboard less than 2 mn after entering in sleep mode.
If it occurs after ~ 2mn, same state after restart from sleep: Fans are running, nothing else...
Event observer says "Power kernel error." crititcal error...

When PC is started, all is clear running W7, playing full HD games, and using it for hours...

I don't know what can cause this problem at start or restart of the PC.
PCI-e bus appears to be involved.
I tried the 2 other PCI-e available locations for GPU without success...

It can not comes from W7 or windows MB drivers... Not launched...
Material cause or bios configuration cause probably, I achieved bios default restore and clear CMOS without success...
Anyone have an idea to fix it?
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