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Ok so I am working on a 24/7 stable everyday use and gaming OC. Currently I am at 4.7ghz. I am fairly new to overclocking so please let me know if im doing something wrong or if something could be better for stability and making my system last without degradation. I am trying to overclock using offset voltage on the UD5Hboard. My settings are in the picture below. I am curious if setting the voltage to "normal" to allow Offset settings to 1.105 + the offset of +0.075 = 1.18 should be showing up as 1.212-1.224vcore in CPU-Z. LLC set to HIGH. I want to have the vcore throttle down under load and it is doing so perfectly down to about 1.010 or something I forget exactly prime is still running atm. With the vcore I am getting under load with these settings 4.7ghz is stable for 2 hours in prime testing so far. I just want to know I am doing things right as I said I am new to overclocking and everything I have learned literally came from reading this site. I really don't fully grasp what LLC setting is the best to use or safest ect. Along with maybe some more information about Offset voltage overclocking. From what I can tell unless having the vcore that much above what I set in bios showing up under load I have a pretty solid OC going but hell if I know lol.
Thank you
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Looks like you're doing pretty good. Is that your max temps, 60's? If so you are doing really good. I'm in low 70's @ x45 with currently using NH-D14.
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Looks like you're doing pretty good. Is that your max temps, 60's? If so you are doing really good. I'm in low 70's @ x45 with currently using NH-D14.

Yes those are the highest temps I have seen on my i5 3570k to date. I was below 60c at 4.5 and 1.164vcore.
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Ok so I am working on a 24/7 stable everyday use and gaming OC. Currently I am at 4.7ghz. I am fairly new to overclocking so please let me know if im doing something wrong or if something could be better for stability and making my system last without degradation. I am trying to overclock using offset voltage on the UD5Hboard. My settings are in the picture below. I am curious if setting the voltage to "normal" to allow Offset settings to 1.105 + the offset of +0.075 = 1.18 should be showing up as 1.212-1.224vcore in CPU-Z. LLC set to HIGH. I want to have the vcore throttle down under load and it is doing so perfectly down to about 1.010 or something I forget exactly prime is still running atm. With the vcore I am getting under load with these settings 4.7ghz is stable for 2 hours in prime testing so far. I just want to know I am doing things right as I said I am new to overclocking and everything I have learned literally came from reading this site. I really don't fully grasp what LLC setting is the best to use or safest ect. Along with maybe some more information about Offset voltage overclocking. From what I can tell unless having the vcore that much above what I set in bios showing up under load I have a pretty solid OC going but hell if I know lol.

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First of all, that is a great chip. Maybe the best Ivy Bridge that I've seen here.

Second, with your voltage and temps so low you have nothing to worry about. You can easily run that setup 24/7 for a few years (unless these new chips turn out to be a lot more sensitive than anyone thought, but I think they'll be fine). I think the rule of thumb is based on Intel's maximum allowable everyday voltage and temps at stock: 1.52v and 105C. When you raise your voltage the temps become more dangerous (increased degradation) so you need to lower you maximum temps a bit while stress testing, but no one is really sure by how much. Mid to high 80's is what I'll aim for.

Lastly, whatever you're asking about LLC and offset I can't understand at all, but what LLC does is reduce vdroop. Vdroop occurs when your processor goes under load and your vcore drops (you can only see that when using a fixed voltage).

If you have C-states and EIST enabled then your idle voltage will be something like 0.60-1.10v. Raising the LLC in this case will increase your load vcore only, while raising your offset under this setup will increase your idle and vcore (LLC is the range of vcore between idle and load, and offset is the shifting of that range).
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First of all, that is a great chip. Maybe the best Ivy Bridge that I've seen here.
Second, with your voltage and temps so low you have nothing to worry about. You can easily run that setup 24/7 for a few years (unless these new chips turn out to be a lot more sensitive than anyone thought, but I think they'll be fine). I think the rule of thumb is based on Intel's maximum allowable everyday voltage and temps at stock: 1.52v and 105C. When you raise your voltage the temps become more dangerous (increased degradation) so you need to lower you maximum temps a bit while stress testing, but no one is really sure by how much. Mid to high 80's is what I'll aim for.
Lastly, whatever you're asking about LLC and offset I can't understand at all, but what LLC does is reduce vdroop. Vdroop occurs when your processor goes under load and your vcore drops (you can only see that when using a fixed voltage).
If you have C-states and EIST enabled then your idle voltage will be something like 0.60-1.10v. Raising the LLC in this case will increase your load vcore only, while raising your offset under this setup will increase your idle and vcore (LLC is the range of vcore between idle and load, and offset is the shifting of that range).

Basically what I am trying to figure out is the way I obtained 1.212-1.224 ( the voltage I get under load in cpu-z) make sense or the right way to do so. I get these voltages with the vcore set to "normal" and 1.105vcore with a +0.075DVID setting to me means 1.18vcore under load? LLC set to High. I am attempting to overclock this way to utilize the C-states and EIST enabled and its working flawlessly as I type this going on almost 2.5 hours of prime blend with temps max 66c and average around 61c. Another thing I do not understand is the VID number in Core temp.
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Were you saying that your VID is 1.105v and you wanted the load vcore to be 1.18v but you ended up with 1.224v after using +0.075v offset?

That's just from a bit too much LLC.. but it's not bad. Just set whatever gets you the voltage you want.

I tried to explain how the controls work:

If you want the downclocking and undervolting (1600MHz w/ ~1.00v) then turn on Speedstep (EIST), C1E and C1/C3 (C-states). Start with stock multiplier and no LLC, then increase the multiplier x1 at a time. Increase LLC until you have close to the load voltage you want.. if you get close but vcore is a bit high or low, then you use a + or - offset to fine tune.

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I don't know how you could have a VID of 1.105v so maybe I'm misunderstanding. If your IDLE VCORE was 1.105v and you want a load vcore of 1.18v, then forget it. That makes no sense. Your LLC may be low or off. Turn it up one or two notches. Or if it's on High then you have to just post your BIOS screens cause your typing is too hard to understand.
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Were you saying that your VID is 1.105v and you wanted the load vcore to be 1.18v but you ended up with 1.224v after using +0.075v offset?
That's just from a bit too much LLC.. but it's not bad. Just set whatever gets you the voltage you want.
I tried to explain how the controls work:
If you want the downclocking and undervolting (1600MHz w/ ~1.00v) then turn on Speedstep (EIST), C1E and C1/C3 (C-states). Start with stock multiplier and no LLC, then increase the multiplier x1 at a time. Increase LLC until you have close to the load voltage you want.. if you get close but vcore is a bit high or low, then you use a + or - offset to fine tune.
edit:
I don't know how you could have a VID of 1.105v so maybe I'm misunderstanding. If your IDLE VCORE was 1.105v and you want a load vcore of 1.18v, then forget it. That makes no sense. Your LLC may be low or off. Turn it up one or two notches. Or if it's on High then you have to just post your BIOS screens cause your typing is too hard to understand.

Im starting to think you have no experience using a gigabyte UD5H and the bios. Or this would make more sense to you.

For me to run 4.7 I need about 1.212 but to get to that voltage and utilize the downclocking and undervolting power saving features I have to set the VCORE to NORMAL Stock voltage of 1.105 and adjust the DYNAMIC VID to the voltage I want underload. I listed all my settings I hope somebody who has used a overclock like this on a UD5H could chime in.

I actually figured out I could do 4.7 at this voltage because I was trying to setup a 4.5 at 1.18 and when I loaded that the voltage was 1.212-1.224 I assume its higher than what I set because of the LLC setting of High. And again what I am trying to figure out is if this is a legit way to get my voltage settings. Thanks.
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I have the UD3H and you need to stay in school. rolleyes.gif

Anyway, "Normal" vcore + DVID means that you are going to have a vcore based on your chips VID, which is an automatic vcore (unique to each chip) that will change with the multiplier (rises with higher clocks).

Look at your chip's VID using Core Temp or another monitoring program. Your offset (DVID) will be added to or subtracted from your VID, giving you a vcore (under load).

LLC "adds" voltage to your load vcore.

If you're using DVID (offset) then you can ignore whatever your vcore says in BIOS. That is the idle voltage, not a VID or anything that will help you figure out what your vcore will be under load.

You're welcome.
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Of course I set 1.35v. the DRR LLC options are confusing.. Standard, Normal, Low.. what is the difference?? None seem to change anything.
EDIT:
It looks like you have to set DDR LLC to Auto if you want it off.
And where are these settings?
Internal PLL Overvoltage
CPU Spread Spectrum

There are reviews on the web that mention these but I can't find them in UEFI.
EDIT:
OMG! PLL overvoltage is currently unavailable while they fix S3 issues.
Sin, I don't understand that post---is it disabled, or is the disable option disabled? I just can't find it in UEFI anywhere.

PLL Overvoltage is by default enabled FULL Time when your multiplier is increased over 40X. For Ivy bridge this is great because CPU PLL overovltage and S3 sleep work just fine with Ivy Bridge, however with sandy bridge this might cause and issue. So i requested that it be put int.

Spread spectrum is enabled by default and makes no difference, back with X58 it also made no difference and back then you could unhide it. So they just put it in the back.
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Anyone got 3570K @ 4.8Ghz 24/7 OC? I want to try to OC it but going for 4.8Ghz right away.

Try out one of my profiles, and then increase the multiplier. I think i posted the profiles a page or two back.
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So I've had prime running for about an hour now with no issues. The profile seems like a really good starting point.

Great glad to hear my profile is working good! smile.gif
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(USB 3.0 front panel ports UD5H that came with mobo) Facing the front of the pc, the one on the right side is not working. But I haven't had a chance to check the header it's plugged into yet, will do that tomorrow. I'll let you know what I find.
Yea try it again, i bought a USB 3.0 SSD enclosure so I can test USB 3.0 speeds, so I would like to know what you find.
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Also today I tried getting my Trident 2400 ram up to 2600 but I couldn't boot, the machine seemed to lock up until I reset. I loosened the timings per TT article and tried command rate 2 but no go.
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@Sin: Per your OC settings, will try when time permits. I'm currently running small DVID offset @ 4.5GHz , vcore about 1.212 before droop, all other voltages, power savings auto. Vcore line level below Turbo, High I think. Upped power and current limits. Was running 4.6 but backed up to see how low I could go on voltage. Not tested for long term stability yet. Taking my time.

Try to loosen the 3rd timings, goto the memory page under quick, and goto the last set of things, set the first to 10500, second one to 93, and the others to 8 (they are all 3 at stock, some might be 1 or 4 depending on XMP), the last two have to be 7 as they can't goto 8. That should give you an extra 50-200mhz.
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I'm not sure what's holding them back ,won't do 2600,here is the sticker/s for both RAM just in case
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yea I will ask them, the issue is, and I hope this isn't' an issue, is that kit is from P55, I hope they still have some so they can add int he proper XMP and the proper timings behind the scenes to make it more compatible.

Also a note about the samsung memory, by default, since this platform is default at 1.5v, it will set 1.5v. You can always go in there and change it to 1.35v, but it makes 0 difference. It is actually the only kit which I stuck into the board and it ran at 1600mhz off the bat, however there is also no XMP profile for it.
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Oh I forgot, I've been looking for info on VTT and IMC. I was under the impression that they were the same thing, but on these boards they have different voltages. I bet you will say that they don't need to be changed, but I still want to know what the difference is between them.

(I'm actually disappointed that my PLL overvoltage is already on, cause these IB's are all hitting a wall at 4.6)
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Oh I forgot, I've been looking for info on VTT and IMC. I was under the impression that they were the same thing, but on these boards they have different voltages. I bet you will say that they don't need to be changed, but I still want to know what the difference is between them.
(I'm actually disappointed that my PLL overvoltage is already on, cause these IB's are all hitting a wall at 4.6)

what do you mean hitting a wall at 4.6?

vccio is vtt and vccsa is imc.
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