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post #21 of 60
Passive radiators in a computer watercooling setup are basically useless. Martin did a review on passive radiators and had to stop testing due to temps getting out of control. I VERY HIGHLY recommend you use fans on a normal radiator. If you want silence then get a lower fpi radiator that's thick - such as an XSPC RX series radiator and use lower rpm fans on it.
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Originally Posted by superericla View Post

Passive radiators in a computer watercooling setup are basically useless. Martin did a review on passive radiators and had to stop testing due to temps getting out of control. I VERY HIGHLY recommend you use fans on a normal radiator. If you want silence then get a lower fpi radiator that's thick - such as an XSPC RX series radiator and use lower rpm fans on it.

you mean this
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/02/04/passive-0-rpm-fans-radiator-test/
be so kind and always provide links plz

u cant say its completely useless. it always depends on what cooling body you use and where it is placed..
the other thing is the price.. like i said, with two or more (real)passive coolers and not just a rad without fans it is possible.

found some benches between xspc and cape cora
http://www.itrends.dk/35348/4/
post #23 of 60
It's not just the number of fans, it's the speed at which they are spinning. A single fan at 3000 RPM will be much louder than 3 fans at 1000 RPM. Here is what I would get:


MCP 350 Pump
XSPC Reservoir Top for Laing DDC
XSPC RS240 Radiator
Gentle Typhoon 1450 RPM x2
PWM Speed controller - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811995073
XSPC Rasa CPU Block
Suitable GPU Block

The pump will be basically silent as long as you properly isolate it from the case with some pieces of rubber (like this: http://i.imgur.com/KpPKt.jpg). The fans will not be 100% silent at full speed, but that is why you buy the intelligent PWM speed controller. It can take input from the CPU fan header to automatically control the fans on your radiator. When gaming, the fans will spin up a little, but at idle they will be silent.

The radiator should fit nicely in your existing case.
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Well i am not planning to overclock anything yet, so i definatly don't need something for extreme overclocking

I am still on stock voltage and clock, and most of the time the CPU load stays under 20% except for occasional gaming
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the problem i see is.. that if you want a complete silent thing like we are talking about.. it could crush your budget by 100€ i fear
I could afford it if it's worth the price !


So if i understand correctly... Wether i chose to buy the Cora HF 442 or an XPSC kit, i will still need to use two 120mm fan anyway...
If this is correct, then the logical would be to go with an XPSC kit because it is way smaller, and the noise level will be exactly the same anyway..... Right ?


You're right, it doesn't look hard to hook this thing on the side of my computer case... Thanks for the tips.

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Passive radiators in a computer watercooling setup are basically useless. Martin did a review on passive radiators and had to stop testing due to temps getting out of control. I VERY HIGHLY recommend you use fans on a normal radiator.
Can you post a link to this review ? Would like to know if he was testing with overclocked settings or stock defauts like me.
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If you want silence then get a lower fpi radiator that's thick - such as an XSPC RX series radiator and use lower rpm fans on it.
Yep, the XSPC RX was my second choice, but i still don't know what model would be best for my situation. Any suggestion ?

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added his link in my previous post.
the watercooling i am using is with 120mm+240mm radiators and 6 fans on push/pull @ 620rpm. thats the best i could do with my setup and my budget.
i´m cooling just my cpu.. with the gpu i´d need better rads ( got cheap ones) and i´d probably need to raise the rpm to 1000 with an 1ghz oc.
hope when i get a 2600k it will produce less heat than my q9300 with an 1ghz OC.. :/
post #26 of 60
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Oops sorry, missed two posts while i was answering.

Thanks for the links Smex, i'll check it out
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MCP 350 Pump
XSPC Reservoir Top for Laing DDC
XSPC RS240 Radiator
Gentle Typhoon 1450 RPM x2
PWM Speed controller - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811995073
XSPC Rasa CPU Block
Suitable GPU Block

The pump will be basically silent as long as you properly isolate it from the case with some pieces of rubber (like this: http://i.imgur.com/KpPKt.jpg). The fans will not be 100% silent at full speed, but that is why you buy the intelligent PWM speed controller. It can take input from the CPU fan header to automatically control the fans on your radiator. When gaming, the fans will spin up a little, but at idle they will be silent.
Thanks for posting that !

This setup looks really interessing. I already have an Aerocool Touch-2000 fan controller with LCD screen so i could use that.

As for the GPU Block i suppose that i just need to buy anything that fits, no particuliar brand ?
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Checked both links, not sure what to think of those reviews...

Martin isn't testing with the Cape Cora and the danish website totally contradict what he said about passive cooling (at least the stats does, i can't read danish text).
On that danish website, Cape Cora results are very close of the XSPC kit even under load... And he doesn't seems to be using fans like in Overclock3D review

But since they're only testing on CPU, it's hard to speculate how it would cool my Radeon 6970 and my CPU... The Cape Cora they are testing are also different models..


It's hard to tell, and i wouldn't want to buy a $400 passive water cooling system to end up with an overheating problem... May as well go with XSPC


But if i go the XSPC way, i would really prefer buy something better quality than the inexpensive MCP 350 Pump. Lots of feedbacks are reporting early failture and trouble to get a warranty replacement. One guy on newegg even said it caught fire !! There's also an huge price difference between this $60 pump and the $200 pump that was recommended earlier.
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Checked both links, not sure what to think of those reviews...
Martin isn't testing with the Cape Cora and the danish website totally contradict what he said about passive cooling (at least the stats does, i can't read danish text).
On that danish website, Cape Cora results are very close of the XSPC kit even under load... And he doesn't seems to be using fans like in Overclock3D review
But since they're only testing on CPU, it's hard to speculate how it would cool my Radeon 6970 and my CPU... The Cape Cora they are testing are also different models..
It's hard to tell, and i wouldn't want to buy a $400 passive water cooling system to end up with an overheating problem... May as well go with XSPC
But if i go the XSPC way, i would really prefer buy something better quality than the inexpensive MCP 350 Pump. Lots of feedbacks are reporting early failture and trouble to get a warranty replacement. One guy on newegg even said it caught fire !! There's also an huge price difference between this $60 pump and the $200 pump that was recommended earlier.

You could just buy the kit, I have the kit (RX360) and I've had no issues whatsoever with the pump res combo. I'm running 3 blocks and a rad off that stock pump, and will soon be adding a 2nd rad. I've had this kit for nearly a year too, bought it May of last year. I may end up getting a better pump eventually, however its done great for nearly 12months and is showing no signs of failing.

I watched TTL's vid of those passive rads, and tbh honest I wasn't that impressed, not to mention he only ran a CPU. Once he started Overclocking it began to show its weakness, stock is probably fine for it. But you also have a graphics card going in there too.

Honestly I would just get an RX240 or 360 kit and chuck some Low RPM fans on it. I'd be tempted to go 360 if you have room. Just incase you want to add to the loop or throw in a mild OC on both CPU and GPU.
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Don't touche Cora passive rads, they are made of Aluminium. That's the worst thing you could possible want to mix with nickle or copper or steel (water block or pumps). Stay very very far away.
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Ok so i'll be buying the XSPC kit then... screw passive cooling !

Would really want to buy the "extreme" version of the RX360 kit... But i can't see how i could hook it to my Cooler Master HAF-912. Maybe it would still fit on the top of my case even if there's only place for 2x 120mm fan so i'm not sure about the third one...

So i'll go with the smaller kit unless i can find a confirmation that someone got it working on a Cooler Master HAF-912

Also, here it shows that the CPU block has a blue LED light:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15402/ex-wat-207/XSPC_Raystorm_RX240_Extreme_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_w_RX240_Radiator_and_Free_Kill_Coil_Hot_item.html?tl=g30c321s1310

Is it possible to get a version without LED ? My computer already has red LED everywhere and two red cold cathode.... I would prefer no LED or red LED....
I don't want my computer to look like a police car ! hahaha (red and blue lights)


Ok now for the GPU water block, i have quickly checked what is available on frozencpu.com but i don't know what i should buy.... i'd appreciate some help

As for coolant, should i just go with distilled water or buy specific coolant ? There's a bunch of stuff i can add to my kit on frozencpu.com
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Select Distilled H20 Additives.
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EK Ekoolant - UV Blue - 1L ($14.99)
EK Ekoolant - UV Green - 1L ($14.99)
Alphacool Ultra Pure Water - 1L ($11.99)

For the pump, i also have the coice between MCP655 and MCP655-B... What is the difference ?
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Corsair H60 Hydro + Cooler Master silent fan Windows 10 60" TV Logitech Solar Keyboard + Nyxboard Remote + Gyr... 
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Seasonic 450W Fanless Power Supply Fractal Node 605 / Antec Fusion Remote Energy CF-70 5.1 home cinema system + subwoofer Kodi Media Center 
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2x ReadyNas Pro NAS + 6tb WD Red HDD (8x) Rackmount media NAS (under construction) 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6950x 4.4GHz MSI X99A Nvidia Titan X Pascal 32gb ddr4 3600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
1TB Samsung SM961 M2 NVME 3200 MB/sec 2x 1TB SSD Samsung Pro (RAID) 1TB Samsung SSD EVO Custom water cooling with 360mm rad + 140mm 
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Windows 10 165hz Acer Predator Alienware backlight keyboard EVGA 1600w SuperNova 
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Deepcool Genome Razer Mamba Razer Manticor 2x SVS Ultra 8" Bookshelf Speakers 
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PSB SubSeries 125 Subwoofer SMSL Amplifier Techni Mobili Ethan desk Rackmount home network with 1GBPs optical fiber... 
CPUGraphicsRAMCooling
i7-4790k 4.6GHz EVGA GTX 980 SC 32GB DDR3 Custom Water Cooling with 360mm rad 
KeyboardPowerCase
Alienware TactX SeaSonic 500W Fanless Power Supply Cooler Master HAF 932 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i7-2600k 4.8GHz MSI Z68A-GD65 16GB DDR3 1600 2x Samsung 256GB Pro SSD 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H60 Hydro + Cooler Master silent fan Windows 10 60" TV Logitech Solar Keyboard + Nyxboard Remote + Gyr... 
PowerCaseAudioOther
Seasonic 450W Fanless Power Supply Fractal Node 605 / Antec Fusion Remote Energy CF-70 5.1 home cinema system + subwoofer Kodi Media Center 
OtherOther
2x ReadyNas Pro NAS + 6tb WD Red HDD (8x) Rackmount media NAS (under construction) 
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