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The way I look at it is: Why submit your information through a browser that is developed and maintained by yet another entity? We use Microsoft's operating system, but their browser is piss poor IMO and many others' opinion. I (among many others) frequently use Google, Youtube, GMail, and Android devices. So, why WOULDN'T we use Chrome over Firefox? We obviously "trust" Google to some degree if we're already using so many of their services. Why would you deviate and submit your information online through yet another company's browser? Especially when Chrome has some pretty slick integration with ICS and GMail now, where you can sync all your bookmarks, extensions, themes, and settings from any Chrome-capable device in the world.

Basically; because I don't have to.

Like I said, Firefox and Chrome are so similar, I haven't ever felt the desire to put up with the extra exposure, however much that may be. I feel more comfortable with a non-profit organization making my browser than one that sells advertising.

The degree in which this does or does not bother you probably varies greatly between people.

Aha, I see. In case you didn't know, though, Mozilla's status as being "non-profit" is VERY sketchy. I don't know what turned out of that investigation, but last I remember, they were found to not be non-profit. Another thing to note is that Mozilla earns 88% of its revenue from Google advertising. thinking.gif
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Aha, I see. In case you didn't know, though, Mozilla's status as being "non-profit" is VERY sketchy. I don't know what turned out of that investigation, but last I remember, they were found to not be non-profit. Another thing to note is that Mozilla earns 88% of its revenue from Google advertising. thinking.gif

I did not know that their non-profit status was "sketchy." I wasn't aware that there was an investigation, either. I'll look into it.

Pretty much everyone and their dog has a partnership with Google at this point, unfortunately. From what I understood, the money from Google was due to Google being the default search engine for Firefox. Millions of search results a day come from the default home page of Firefox.

I've never understood why people are so aggressive about their browser choices. I'm not telling you to switch, I'm simply stating why I, and many others, decided to stick with good 'ol Mozilla.
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Aha, I see. In case you didn't know, though, Mozilla's status as being "non-profit" is VERY sketchy. I don't know what turned out of that investigation, but last I remember, they were found to not be non-profit. Another thing to note is that Mozilla earns 88% of its revenue from Google advertising. thinking.gif

I did not know that their non-profit status was "sketchy." I wasn't aware that there was an investigation, either. I'll look into it.

Pretty much everyone and their dog has a partnership with Google at this point, unfortunately. From what I understood, the money from Google was due to Google being the default search engine for Firefox. Millions of search results a day come from the default home page of Firefox.

I've never understood why people are so aggressive about their browser choices. I'm not telling you to switch, I'm simply stating why I, and many others, decided to stick with good 'ol Mozilla.

Oh trust me, I hope I'm not coming across that way either. I used to love Firefox before Chrome first released. Although Mozilla still claims to be non-profit on their site, I think they were debunked/knocked down from being such. Their revenue was FAR over the limits of the standards for a non-profit organization. Looking into the final outcome of that investigation myself now, out of curiosity.

http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/nonprofit/2008/11/irs-investigati.html
http://seekingalpha.com/article/106889-google-revenues-threaten-mozilla-s-nonprofit-status
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Oh trust me, I hope I'm not coming across that way either. I used to love Firefox before Chrome first released. Although Mozilla still claims to be non-profit on their site, I think they were debunked/knocked down from being such. Their revenue was FAR over the limits of the standards for a non-profit organization. Looking into the final outcome of that investigation myself now, out of curiosity.
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/nonprofit/2008/11/irs-investigati.html
http://seekingalpha.com/article/106889-google-revenues-threaten-mozilla-s-nonprofit-status

It doesn't seem that they have come to a resolution yet, at least from my short Google search. The Mozilla Foundation website still titles themselves as a non-profit as well.

Can a company be private one year, and then become non-profit again another?
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Patience, MS is going big with HTML5/JQuery the next coming years. You haven't heard the last of 'em...
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^^^This. The only thing I ever use firefox for is because Firebug makes it easier to see hover CSS functions than Chrome. IE's inspect element is just...plain awful

It's pathetic. You have to manually refresh the DOM tree if it is updated with JavaScript. The inspector only knows about the page as it was when it first loaded.
    
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The way I look at it is: Why submit your information through a browser that is developed and maintained by yet another entity? We use Microsoft's operating system, but their browser is piss poor IMO and many others' opinion. I (among many others) frequently use Google, Youtube, GMail, and Android devices. So, why WOULDN'T we use Chrome over Firefox? We obviously "trust" Google to some degree if we're already using so many of their services. Why would you deviate and submit your information online through yet another company's browser? Especially when Chrome has some pretty slick integration with ICS and GMail now, where you can sync all your bookmarks, extensions, themes, and settings from any Chrome-capable device in the world.
To draw a good figurative picture of what I mean:
Let's say that you have been a long-time customer of Amazon.com, Newegg.com, or any other single site. You always punch in your credit card information on those sites as you trust them with your information to some degree. Assuming you have had nothing but good experiences in buying from that site, why would you now suddenly order from some other site that you just found, that offers the same products at pretty similar prices? Disregard the concept of looking up reviews and whatnot for that site. How can you reason that giving your credit card information (MUCH more sensitive information than what Google collects) to multiple companies is safer than just sticking with a sole company that you order things online with, limiting the companies that have your credit card information? Like you said, you're ALREADY giving some information to Google by using their search engine and other services. Why would you then risk providing practically the same information to Mozilla by using THEIR browser?

BAWL.

So basically, use Chrome because you do? Ok.

I have an alternative hypothesis: We should be super fair and spread the love across many walks of life. I use Microsoft Windows, and Canonical's Ubuntu. I also use Google Android on my phone and on all three I use the Mozilla Firefox Browser. This way my love is spread across all of them. Hell, if one is going to use my data to spread my cheeks wider for a good ramming, why not spread even further and let them all have a go at once. Who doesn't like quadruple penetration? I use Mozilla Firefox on my Google Android phone whilst using baco-foil for my tin-foil hat. Stay ahead of the curve and smash your phone into your face and push the buttons with your teeth. It's the ONLY safe way of doing things.

Lol. No. Some people just have a preference. I prefer Firefox on my desktops (I don't use it on my phone, it's pretty crap) because it's pretty dissimilar to Chrome and Opera. Why use it? Habit. Nothing more.
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The way I look at it is: Why submit your information through a browser that is developed and maintained by yet another entity? We use Microsoft's operating system, but their browser is piss poor IMO and many others' opinion. I (among many others) frequently use Google, Youtube, GMail, and Android devices. So, why WOULDN'T we use Chrome over Firefox? We obviously "trust" Google to some degree if we're already using so many of their services. Why would you deviate and submit your information online through yet another company's browser? Especially when Chrome has some pretty slick integration with ICS and GMail now, where you can sync all your bookmarks, extensions, themes, and settings from any Chrome-capable device in the world.
To draw a good figurative picture of what I mean:
Let's say that you have been a long-time customer of Amazon.com, Newegg.com, or any other single site. You always punch in your credit card information on those sites as you trust them with your information to some degree. Assuming you have had nothing but good experiences in buying from that site, why would you now suddenly order from some other site that you just found, that offers the same products at pretty similar prices? Disregard the concept of looking up reviews and whatnot for that site. How can you reason that giving your credit card information (MUCH more sensitive information than what Google collects) to multiple companies is safer than just sticking with a sole company that you order things online with, limiting the companies that have your credit card information? Like you said, you're ALREADY giving some information to Google by using their search engine and other services. Why would you then risk providing practically the same information to Mozilla by using THEIR browser?

BAWL.

So basically, use Chrome because you do? Ok.

I have an alternative hypothesis: We should be super fair and spread the love across many walks of life. I use Microsoft Windows, and Canonical's Ubuntu. I also use Google Android on my phone and on all three I use the Mozilla Firefox Browser. This way my love is spread across all of them. Hell, if one is going to use my data to spread my cheeks wider for a good ramming, why not spread even further and let them all have a go at once. Who doesn't like quadruple penetration? I use Mozilla Firefox on my Google Android phone whilst using baco-foil for my tin-foil hat. Stay ahead of the curve and smash your phone into your face and push the buttons with your teeth. It's the ONLY safe way of doing things.

Lol. No. Some people just have a preference. I prefer Firefox on my desktops (I don't use it on my phone, it's pretty crap) because it's pretty dissimilar to Chrome and Opera. Why use it? Habit. Nothing more.

Dude lol I'm not forcing it upon anyone... I was simply pointing out my view in response to his... I used to love Firefox and I don't look down on anyone for preferring it. Can't care any less what anyone else uses; I just chime in when I see someone post obnoxious trash like "lololol Google evil spy business collects all your info with Chrome." I just point out why I PERSONALLY prefer Chrome. I seriously did lol at your butt-cheeks bit though LOL.
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Dude lol I'm not forcing it upon anyone... I was simply pointing out my view in response to his... I used to love Firefox and I don't look down on anyone for preferring it. Can't care any less what anyone else uses; I just chime in when I see someone post obnoxious trash like "lololol Google evil spy business collects all your info with Chrome." I just point out why I PERSONALLY prefer Chrome. I seriously did lol at your butt-cheeks bit though LOL.

I know, I didn't actually have a point to prove sorry if that come on a bit strong! I'm the same with all this spying stuff. It hurts my head and I feel like I've been violated every time I see something by "ThePrisonPlanet"!

Also, yeah Lentulus Batiatus, Spartacus, word-smith extraordinaire!

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I fail to see how this effects anything. Security, speed, and integration with all websites is what is disired.
Source: My own business.

It doesn't sherlock. It was an observation about the stylistic similarities between 4 of the 5 browsers.

And not the way they rendered pages.
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