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Hey, you said you run Bf3 on ultra....are you running it with AA, and at what resolutions? That's the only game I play. biggrin.gif
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I just did.this! I upgraded from.the 460 to the sapphire 7870 for 350. It was def worth it!! I didn't want to spend any more and the 580 is almost 100 more. This card runs way cooler than.the 460 and on ultra in battlefield 3 I was getting between 45 to 60 fps and when I overclocked it to 1209 and 1450 memory I get pretty much a constant 60 fps. I doubt the 580 is worth the extra price

before you go dropping that much for a new card though, take a look at some reviews about sli 460s compared to other cards. i couldnt find one comparing sli 460s to a 7870, but i did find that the sli 460s run just about on par with a single HD 5970. Other than the fact that the 5970 draws more power, the 5970 kicks the **** out of the 7870 in performance, at least from the reviews i found.

http://www.hwcompare.com/12205/radeon-hd-5970-vs-radeon-hd-7870/

id save the money and just get a second 460 and upgrade to the 580 or 680 later down the road.
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Hey, you said you run Bf3 on ultra....are you running it with AA, and at what resolutions? That's the only game I play. biggrin.gif

If that is all you play then a GTX 580 will be better than a 7850/7870

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5625/amd-radeon-hd-7870-ghz-edition-radeon-hd-7850-review-rounding-out-southern-islands/11

Before you go saying "Well.. I can overclock the 7850/7870 and it'll get almost the same FPS if not more!" Yeah, well you can overclock the GTX 580 too.

A GTX 580 can be had in the $300 range these days if you buy used, otherwise they are $380ish brand new on Newegg.. 'bout the same as a 7870.


You can get another 460 in SLI, but you will be VRAM limited and that is no good on a VRAM hungry game like BF3.
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Hey, you said you run Bf3 on ultra....are you running it with AA, and at what resolutions? That's the only game I play. biggrin.gif

Haha well it is at 1920x1080 Res but I have one of those Korean 2560x1440 monitors on the way so.dunno.how it works with that but I have aa on 4x and the post aa off because I think it makes it too blurry everything else is on Max
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If that is all you play then a GTX 580 will be better than a 7850/7870
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5625/amd-radeon-hd-7870-ghz-edition-radeon-hd-7850-review-rounding-out-southern-islands/11
Before you go saying "Well.. I can overclock the 7850/7870 and it'll get almost the same FPS if not more!" Yeah, well you can overclock the GTX 580 too.
A GTX 580 can be had in the $300 range these days if you buy used, otherwise they are $380ish brand new on Newegg.. 'bout the same as a 7870.
You can get another 460 in SLI, but you will be VRAM limited and that is no good on a VRAM hungry game like BF3.

Well I've seen other reviews that the 7870 is on par or better than the gtx 580 so I really think there are too many variables and for the extra cost I bet the difference us negligible. It probably more comes down to if you like nvidia or ati more. And I am talking about stock here. For an extra 3 fps or whatever it is the cost is not worth it to me plus where did u see 380 for the gtx 580 the average price on newegg is about 420... so 70 dollars more than the 7870 for on par or a little higher performance. I can afford a higher card but I feel like the prices of high end cards is outrageous. Especially for someone like me who is not a hardcore gamer.

Edit just looked at your link... my stock 7870 on ultra settings in BF3 I was getting 45-60fps on 1080p so I don't know where they are getting 38 from...which is why I said those benchmarks don't really help you for your own system. It shows the 580 even beating the 7950... i highly doubt it
and they got more fps on a higher resolution with the 7870... da phuq? That was posted on 3/5/2012 ...not sure when the new drivers came out but everyone is saying with them it puts the 7870 at or ahead of 580
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Well I've seen other reviews that the 7870 is on par or better than the gtx 580 so I really think there are too many variables and for the extra cost I bet the difference us negligible. It probably more comes down to if you like nvidia or ati more. And I am talking about stock here. For an extra 3 fps or whatever it is the cost is not worth it to me plus where did u see 380 for the gtx 580 the average price on newegg is about 420... so 70 dollars more than the 7870 for on par or a little higher performance. I can afford a higher card but I feel like the prices of high end cards is outrageous. Especially for someone like me who is not a hardcore gamer.
Edit just looked at your link... my stock 7870 on ultra settings in BF3 I was getting 45-60fps on 1080p so I don't know where they are getting 38 from...which is why I said those benchmarks don't really help you for your own system. It shows the 580 even beating the 7950... i highly doubt it
and they got more fps on a higher resolution with the 7870... da phuq? That was posted on 3/5/2012 ...not sure when the new drivers came out but everyone is saying with them it puts the 7870 at or ahead of 580

The 580 is better for BF3. You get more FPS because you are using preset Ultra which is NOT all ultra settings. If you notice they are using 4x MSAA, which will greatly reduce your frame rate. I don't doubt the 580 beating the 7950 either. I'm sure it does in that game. .. AMD cards take a much greater performance hit from MSAA.
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The 580 is better for BF3. You get more FPS because you are using preset Ultra which is NOT all ultra settings. If you notice they are using 4x MSAA, which will greatly reduce your frame rate. I don't doubt the 580 beating the 7950 either. I'm sure it does in that game. .. AMD cards take a much greater performance hit from MSAA.

how do you get higher ultra settings... i am doing custom and 4x msaa is the highest it goes to
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how do you get higher ultra settings... i am doing custom and 4x msaa is the highest it goes to

What's your res? They were using 1200p not 1080p, that could be why your framerate is higher then.
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