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they are a 20$ head set get it smile.gif

That's what I was thinking, but will the 250ohm version sound okay without an amp for now? I'm thinking it's a better choice to get the 80ohm version from Amazon for $200, that way they'll sound like they're supposed to sound while I'm occasionally listening to music from my phone. What do you guys think?

Pretty much all high-impedance headphones will sound okay out of a common source with an underpowered headphone output. The higher the impedance, the easier it is to drive with lower distortion. Higher-impedance headphones just need more voltage to get the same power delivered, so they may be quieter.

I haven't seen convincing data on the differences between the DT 770 versions, but in theory if the difference between the two is only the impedance, then you could expect about 5 dB less volume from the 250 ohms version compared to the 80 ohms version, assuming the output impedance of the source is low. It's not a huge difference but something significant enough to warn about. Do you know what a 5 dB difference sounds like? Open up a music player like foobar with a software volume control listed in dB, and crank it down 5 dB.

FiiO E10 is a decent stereo output option for headphones (best at its price) if you don't want like Dolby Headphone or whatever DSP effects Creative has. It's definitely powerful enough for the DT 770 80 ohms version, probably loud enough for most people for the 250 ohms version. The music genres you listed tend to be mastered fairly "hot" so at a pretty loud average level. So I would think it's definitely enough for you.

Considering the music choice I would consider the DT 770 Pro 250 ohms to probably be sufficiently loud even off of onboard audio, for my personal use. YMMV.


To be honest, around $200 is a fair but not particularly thrilling price for those headphones. I'd take the Pro 80 ohms version for $200 though, to be able to power it off of a phone better, if that's at all a concern.
post #12 of 19
Dt770s are often found on craigslist for 120 our less. New for 170. 200 doesn't sound great. You could buy dt990s for around the price of those dt770s.

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post #13 of 19
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Thanks guys. The cheapest I can find for the 250ohm is 200 and for the dt990 all I'm finding is $280. I think I'll get the 250ohm for around $200 and use them on my computer until getting some sort of portable amp to use on my phone and computer. Unless there's something totally wrong with this idea? Ill have to see what 5db sounds like when I get home.
post #14 of 19
Sony MDR-ZX700's. 120$ + shipping.

Best set of headphones I've used so far...
post #15 of 19
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Sony MDR-ZX700's. 120$ + shipping.
Best set of headphones I've used so far...

When I can afford it I'm looking at a higher end headphone right now.

So I checked out Foobar and the 5dB difference is nothing to my concern. I also found the DT770 Pro 250ohm locally for $180 here. I'm thinking I'll go with those and then eventually get a mobile amp such as the Fiio E7 to use on my computer and phone while on the go. Unless there's a major flaw in this idea I think I've made up my mind. Thanks for all of you guy's help and suggestions.

EDIT: Just found the DT990 Pro 250ohm at that same place for the same price. Which one should I get?
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When I can afford it I'm looking at a higher end headphone right now.
So I checked out Foobar and the 5dB difference is nothing to my concern. I also found the DT770 Pro 250ohm locally for $180 here. I'm thinking I'll go with those and then eventually get a mobile amp such as the Fiio E7 to use on my computer and phone while on the go. Unless there's a major flaw in this idea I think I've made up my mind. Thanks for all of you guy's help and suggestions.
EDIT: Just found the DT990 Pro 250ohm at that same place for the same price. Which one should I get?

Trust me. Those zx700s are high end.
post #17 of 19
these seem to have great ratings for that genre of music http://www.headphone.com/selection-guide/top-picks/audio-technica-ath-m50.php
but the dt 770's are also beasts. Best of luck with what ever you pick thumb.gif
post #18 of 19
I believe both headphones have a v-curve. Not really a problem but just pointing it out. The DT770's are good, same with the Ultrasone's that were recommended earlier. If you can, I'd try to find the Denon AH-D2000's for $250 (I believe you can call J&R and try to lower the price down the $250 or something near that). They're great all around headphones and have a great soundstage for sealed headphones (there's also the AKG K550 which is basically a sealed K701/K702/Q701. Note on the Q701 part, I just included it because AKG said it has the same driver as the K701/K702 but there's been people saying that it sounds different than the two and others have said they sound the same). Mids are a bit recessed but nothing too severe. The AH-D2000's are easy to drive with an impedance of 25ohms, but amping would still make them sound better. You don't have to.
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post #19 of 19
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys, but I've been talking to the people at Head Fi and they said the DT990s would be best for electronic music. Picking them up tomorrow, real pumped tongue.gif
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