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I think it's funny how people were so excited about getting MCMMO at first and now everyone wants to get rid of it. tongue.gif

So much this.

Also if FD is causing you a problem stop using xray or exploits to mine when you shouldn't be able to see...

As for a reset, I'm not sure what I think about that as I see all the work thats gone into the server.
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So much this.
Also if FD is causing you a problem stop using xray or exploits to mine when you shouldn't be able to see...
As for a reset, I'm not sure what I think about that as I see all the work thats gone into the server.

Turning up the brightness in game is an exploit?
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Some people might just be mining randomly in the dark. Sometimes on other servers I would just dig out a certain sized area and count in my head, then I would light it up when I finished. I can see how being forced to place a torch would be a pain.

Anyway, brightness is a game feature not an exploit.

Also, when players mine in the dark they are aware of the risks. If a mob spawns and kills them or they fall down a hole that's their fault. Forcing them to place a torch is like babysitting.
Edited by Cpt.Teacup - 6/25/12 at 10:22am
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Also if FD is causing you a problem stop using xray or exploits to mine when you shouldn't be able to see...

What is FD and what exactly does it do/prohibit? I haven't been on enough to even know what it does.
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What is FD and what exactly does it do/prohibit? I haven't been on enough to even know what it does.

It spams chat with stuff people mine, and it doesn't let you mine ore in the dark.
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It spams chat with stuff people mine, and it doesn't let you mine ore in the dark.

That's incredibly obnoxious. Why not just install Orbfuscator or something? That way you *know* people won't be able to x-ray... without spamming or infringing on a player's right to mine without a freaking torch.
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What is FD and what exactly does it do/prohibit? I haven't been on enough to even know what it does.

It doesn't really do anything other then log and announce when a player mines something, coal/iron/ect. It's a problem at the moment because it spams everyone on the entire server every time someone does any mining what so ever, you have 4+ people mining at the same time and it's gg chatbox filled with crap no one but admins care about.
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That's incredibly obnoxious. Why not just install Orbfuscator or something? That way you *know* people won't be able to x-ray... without spamming or infringing on a player's right to mine without a freaking torch.

We are using FD at the moment because of the current hardware we have, once we have our new hardware we will able to run Obfuscatory no problem.
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Seems after the plugin update/maintenance none of our buttons/levers are working at all. Had Vort look at it a bit but we couldn't figure out why they were not working. Levers placed in faction and non faction areas won't work and after being placed won't even let me destroy them, they act like they were just placed into a zmod area. /cinfo gives the info on levers that it is infact a private lever set to me yet nothing works on it and trying /cinfo on buttons breaks them and was returning some message like "Lwc had stopped because another plugin is overwriting it" or close to that. Also found out that pistons refuse to work properly, sometimes they'll extend but then won't retract and chests are still acting funky (have to stand directly in front of them and click in the middle otherwise it wont let me in them) before it just wouldn't let me in them at all and would eventually kick me from the server.
Would also like to petition for that [FD] plugin or w/e its called that logs ore people find to be put to mod/admin mode only so everyone isn't constantly spammed by it, was a huge complaint once people were back on and started getting hit by those messages constantly. And while talking about spam w/e new plugin you guys got to stop spamming is affecting lwc commands while adding permissions to items, it will flag a user for spam if you're going around using lwc on chests.

That first portion of your post was a complication with LWC (our block protection plugin). I thought I explained it to you while I was looking at it but I've since been able to recover most protections. I'm working closely with one of the contributing developers of LWC to recover the rest of the protections. Long story short wherever there was a protection lost no protection can be placed. We'll keep you guys posted on our progress as we make it.

[FD] stands for Found Diamonds and broadcasts over public chat to inform both our players and our staff. We've chosen to use this plugin as a deterrent to both mod and texture pack xray users. We've already seen great results thanks to this plugin as we've banned a number of confirmed xray users thanks to its logging. A bonus of displaying the results publicly is that players take stock in the server and contact the staff of suspect behavior. As I mentioned we've already banned players due to FD both in tipping us and the players off who contact us. Soon FD will only notify players in public chat of gold and diamond ores to cut back on the notifications. In the future after our massive drool.gif hardware upgrades we'll be installing the Orebfuscator to stop both xray users and texture pack abusers.

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Another thing that came up, why do we have to put a torch up to mine? What if you are just starting and you need to mine in the dark somewhat to get coal for torches?
It's getting annoying to have to plant torches to mine. Especially when you're using super breaker and you waste it because you run in to a block with ore on it.

Think of it as added realism, like the plugin says "mining in the dark is dangerous" biggrin.gif I personally think of it as an added bonus and a final nail in the coffin against xray abusers. One of the very few remaining bonuses they would otherwise have on our server is effectively nullified. Moving forward we will continue to tweak the required light level but think of it as our way of looking out for you by keeping creepers from creeping. biggrin.gif

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MCMMO just makes it so you can't jump in to pvp, which is not fun for new people joining the server.

McMMO will receive be balanced. We want to encourage players to continue playing and give them added benefits for their time served but we also want to minimize any negative effect on others play. The majority of the current staff have wanted to go over both McMMO and Factions with a fine toothed comb. I'm happy to say that we're finally getting very close to that day.

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In terms of iConomy there isn't really a use for it currently, so the effects would be mute. Most the shops aren't even being touched anymore because everyone is self-sufficient, even then it's easier just to trade items then mess with money.

I would purpose setting a few rules up for faction creation, such as having a certain amount of members to qualify for a faction and/or a steeper cost to create them so that players are more encouraged to find and join a faction or rough it out alone and risk being in a pvp area. It would certainly help get rid of alot of these 1 person factions that just sit there doing nothing and would create a little more tension and promote pvp more.

edit: also zmod needs to go, its a pvp server, you shouldn't be able to go it alone and be completely carefree because you can put up a magical barrier that no one can get past unless you derp and leave the front door open.

Economy will play a very large roll in the re-launch of the survival server. We've been developing a new style of play utilizing custom plugins to provide a fulfilling well rounded Factions survival PvP experience. ZMOD is a dead man walking and LWC will change in a exciting new way. Both everything and everyone will be safe to an extent.. Players will be encouraged to join factions while still be able to put down roots on the server and express their abilities all within a Factions survival PvP environment. I don't mean to lead anyone on but we'll get into more details publicly as they develop. If you wish to dicuss our vision of this new experience join us on the OCN Mumble, I'd personally be glad to discuss it with you, and get some input.

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What is FD and what exactly does it do/prohibit? I haven't been on enough to even know what it does.

See above but if I had to define its role on our server I'd say it's both a deterrent to cheaters and a tool to help us catch them.

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That's incredibly obnoxious. Why not just install Orbfuscator or something?

The Orebfuscator plugin is very effective but horribly resource intensive, our current hardware just cannot handle it. That being said, our proposed hardware upgrades are EPIC and stands to be a symbol of Overclock.net, how they do gaming, and how much their community members mean to them. post-flame-small.gif
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I can see how forcing players to place torches in the dark could be useful in deterring xray users, however, I think it might be "too much." Yes, it deters xray users because they can't just mine straight to the diamonds, but it can also turn off honest players who either don't have a torch to place or don't want to be distracted by it. Having to place a torch down can interrupt someone trying to count blocks or waste precious time when using Super Breaker.

In the end, I think it does as much harm as it does good and can be removed without really being missed. The mining log / Orebfuscator should be enough on it's own.
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