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After reading your OP, it seems like it'll mostly be casual PC: gaming/music/movies, and for that the 1155 socket is more than enough. You won't possibly get better performance say upgrading to a 3820 if it's for gaming, but you will see an improvement when rendering/video editing for the extra cores on 2011.

If you can justify the cost of having upgrade to 2011, then by all means go for it. But the whole process should be more expensive than buying a cheap Z68 and pairing it with a 2500K/2600K or you can wait for the Z77 and snug in a 3570K/3770K depending on the prices. smile.gif

You might not even need the HT processors, as it does very little for gaming but is beneficial if you are running processor intensive tasks(using all available threads) now and then. 2011 will provide extra PCIe lanes as others have explained, which is necessary if you want to run a few GPUs. Z68 is limited to 8x/8x, and it's fine for SLI/CF.

From my POV, 2011 doesn't really provide much if you can't take advantage of the extra b/w or cores.

Just my 2c.
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Oh man haha you've convinced me to go back to 1155. What exactly is haswell?

haswell is the nexgen platform it will use 1150 socket.
like some other already pointed out, 2011 is not more up to date than 1155, infact 2011 is late. 2011 is just the extreme version of 1155, they both have the same upgrade path, and they will both die the same. if you have the money for 2011 and you actually going to use the extra features then why not.

The reason I was going to go for 2011 was I wanted to get as much performance I can for the money but now I'm convinced to go 1155. You say when haswell come out it will be for lga1150. Will it still fit in 1155 or is 1150 a completely new socket? Sorry for the lame questions I'm quite new with intel.
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After reading your OP, it seems like it'll mostly be casual PC: gaming/music/movies, and for that the 1155 socket is more than enough. You won't possibly get better performance say upgrading to a 3820 if it's for gaming, but you will see an improvement when rendering/video editing for the extra cores on 2011.

If you can justify the cost of having upgrade to 2011, then by all means go for it. But the whole process should be more expensive than buying a cheap Z68 and pairing it with a 2500K/2600K or you can wait for the Z77 and snug in a 3570K/3770K depending on the prices. smile.gif

You might not even need the HT processors, as it does very little for gaming but is beneficial if you are running processor intensive tasks(using all available threads) now and then. 2011 will provide extra PCIe lanes as others have explained, which is necessary if you want to run a few GPUs. Z68 is limited to 8x/8x, and it's fine for SLI/CF.

From my POV, 2011 doesn't really provide much if you can't take advantage of the extra b/w or cores.

Just my 2c.
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Oh man haha you've convinced me to go back to 1155. What exactly is haswell?

haswell is the nexgen platform it will use 1150 socket.
like some other already pointed out, 2011 is not more up to date than 1155, infact 2011 is late. 2011 is just the extreme version of 1155, they both have the same upgrade path, and they will both die the same. if you have the money for 2011 and you actually going to use the extra features then why not.
If you say that there will only be a good performance increase only if I use multi gpu and do things such as rendering I might not go for 2011. I was planning to do a little bit of 3d rendering and photoshop but I wont be doing it that much and I will mostly be gaming and web surfing. And having the same upgrade path tells me that 1155 will be around just as long as 2011, true?

And sorry that my posts are all over the place I'm on holidays and I can only use my iphone
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post #23 of 38
1150 is a completely new socket.

And yes if you do want a pure performance platform with even more upgrade options for more performance go 2011. If for some reason you need a 6-core or the equivalent IB-E for school work etc. then you'd be stuck with 1155. IB is not gonna change a thing, SB-E hexas will kill every IB 1155 CPU in multithreaded apps.
 
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keep in mind that you won't see any performance difference from 1155 if you are just gonna use 2011 for gaming.
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Oh man haha you've convinced me to go back to 1155. What exactly is haswell?

haswell is the nexgen platform it will use 1150 socket.
like some other already pointed out, 2011 is not more up to date than 1155, infact 2011 is late. 2011 is just the extreme version of 1155, they both have the same upgrade path, and they will both die the same. if you have the money for 2011 and you actually going to use the extra features then why not.

The reason I was going to go for 2011 was I wanted to get as much performance I can for the money but now I'm convinced to go 1155. You say when haswell come out it will be for lga1150. Will it still fit in 1155 or is 1150 a completely new socket? Sorry for the lame questions I'm quite new with intel

2011 won't give you more performance for the money. It certainly offers more performance, and in some cases, substantially more performance (depends on what you are using it for). The catch is, its going to cost you and there is no way around it. 3820 is only a very slight upgrade in cost (the CPU can actually be bought for a little less, but the motherboards are more expensive). 3820 will give you the benefit of the extra PCI-e lanes with 2011, but that's really it. A 3820 doesn't deliver any more real world performance than a 2600K. The 3820 benches just a little bit higher than a 2600K (though the 2600K is higher in some benches), but its not enough for you to actually notice it. The couple of previews that exist show the 3770K outperforming the 3820, but not by leaps and bounds. Bottomline is that if you want an increase in performance, 3820 isn't giving it to you. In order to get the performance boost that 2011 is capable of, you need to step up to a 6 core now, or wait for IB-E and step up to either a 6, or the 8 if it becomes available. Those options will all be considerably more expensive. The other factor is that unless you are actually using the rig for something that 2011 excels at, you won't really notice a boost in performance even with a 6 core version.

What you use your rig for is the most important thing to consider, IMO. Both 1155 and 2011 have their advantages and disadvantages. The answer on which to get is not clear cut.
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Also, even if you are rendering, you're not going to see a difference between 1155 and 2011 UNLESS you put a 6 core in it. Otherwise you're going to be far better off with 1155. And if you are only going to be rendering occasionally and it's not time critical, then you'll be far better off with 1155 for the savings. Spend the extra on something that you will notice, like an SSD! thumb.gif
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Like I said in my last post... and from someone on 2011, 1155 with ivy bridge will be a better choice. I regret not going IB. I upgraded from a 980x thinking I needed a 6-core CPU and I wouldn't take a 4-core. But looking back, I regret not going 1155. it really comes down to, "What are you doing that needs a 6-core CPU?" If you are doing video encoding or rendering, then sure 2011 is the best choice. But for 99% of OCN OCers, 1155 is a better fit.
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You're not going to get a majority that agree one way or the other on this. Take a look at the benchmarks of all the CPUs you're considering, weigh the cost differences, and then make your own decision. Its your money and your rig, you need to make your own choice rather than let anyone sway you.

There are lots of places you can look at benchmarks, but IMO, a good place to start is here: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/47?vs=288 Just plug the CPUs you want to compare in and have a look. Its interesting to me that while a 6 core 3930K will beat a 2600K in a lot of areas, the 2600K actually holds it own or beats the 3930K in other areas. That's why I said what you use the rig for is the most important thing, IMO. According to the tests in the link above, in gaming, web browsing, media, and photoshop, there's no advantage at all for 2011. Both sockets are almost dead even. Rendering is where you should see the benefit of 2011, but it will still depend on the software you are running.
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Both sockets are almost dead even.

What do you mean by they are almost dead? Wasn't lga2011 just released recently? Is it worth descussing 1366 or will that be a waste of time?
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Like I said in my last post... and from someone on 2011, 1155 with ivy bridge will be a better choice. I regret not going IB. I upgraded from a 980x thinking I needed a 6-core CPU and I wouldn't take a 4-core. But looking back, I regret not going 1155. it really comes down to, "What are you doing that needs a 6-core CPU?" If you are doing video encoding or rendering, then sure 2011 is the best choice. But for 99% of OCN OCers, 1155 is a better fit.

Yep, I don't need a 6 core neither and would be happy to go with a 3820 now. I love the mobo and ram though!biggrin.gif
    
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