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Link for what stats your are talking about Z?
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No link yet; not making it public until we're ready. Until then, the "stock" autostats will have to do. :P

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We have somewhat went off-topic. I think the subject has been answered. New hardware will be dis-allowed until we have firm numbers on output like zodac said. $ilent, get us your numbers when that time comes for VM Folding. Hopefully, we will find out some Native numbers soon after. When we have the data, a decision can be made. We just want things to be as fair as possible.

 

Onto the off-topic, but related stuff:

 

I am not sure I understand Desert Rat's idea about a 20k PPD cap in Cat 2. Are you saying move hardware into to the category that performs lower than 20k PPD? I can see that. I hope you were not suggesting putting hardware in that is capable of more than 20k PPD and capping it. We will just have a bunch of people folding 20k PPD in Cat 2.

 

Erick Silver, take a look at Black Magix on Team Explosm. He folds a 465. I believe he is netting 11k PPD. I folded on my 450 yesterday at 940 MHz and hit 10.3k PPD. I don't believe that is too far off.

 

I have owned several 460's though including the SE Versions. I would top out at 14k PPD on the average work unit. When I say top out, that was running a clock of 1040 MHz under water. I also unlocked the voltage cap and was running 1.150v

 

My 450 needs flashed to unlock the voltage cap. I can almost guarantee I can do 12k or so on it afterwards. My temps at 940MHz were only 47C on air. It is Lutro0's old Gigabyte one with the 2 fans. Very nice cooler!

 

 

 
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We have somewhat went off-topic. I think the subject has been answered. New hardware will be dis-allowed until we have firm numbers on output like zodac said. $ilent, get us your numbers when that time comes for VM Folding. Hopefully, we will find out some Native numbers soon after. When we have the data, a decision can be made. We just want things to be as fair as possible.

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I am not sure I understand Desert Rat's idea about a 20k PPD cap in Cat 2. Are you saying move hardware into to the category that performs lower than 20k PPD? I can see that. I hope you were not suggesting putting hardware in that is capable of more than 20k PPD and capping it. We will just have a bunch of people folding 20k PPD in Cat 2.

Erick Silver, take a look at Black Magix on Team Explosm. He folds a 465. I believe he is netting 11k PPD. I folded on my 450 yesterday at 940 MHz and hit 10.3k PPD. I don't believe that is too far off.

I have owned several 460's though including the SE Versions. I would top out at 14k PPD on the average work unit. When I say top out, that was running a clock of 1040 MHz under water. I also unlocked the voltage cap and was running 1.150v

My 450 needs flashed to unlock the voltage cap. I can almost guarantee I can do 12k or so on it afterwards. My temps at 940MHz were only 47C on air. It is Lutro0's old Gigabyte one with the 2 fans. Very nice cooler!



My Asus DirectCU ENGTS450 is getting good numbers as well. I am at 925Mhz on air and not breaking the 50*C mark. Normally. But think for a moment. The 465 is getting 11k PPD and the GTS450 gets about 10.3kPPD. Now multiply that .7kPPD by 30 days and you get 21kPPM(Points Per Month). Thats a substanstial amount. and if thats the average then it can fluctuate higher and lower. But still on the average that gives the 465 an advantage.
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That is small enough to make them able to compete. Work Units impact them too, and so does the user.

 
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21,000 points difference in a month is small enough to make them compete? I am afraid I must disagree with that. Not everyone is water cooled and flashed. I would love to water cool my GTS450 but I have not really seen a block made for that. As for flashing. I am scared when flashing my Mobo Bios much less my GPU. So flashing my GPU has never been an option for me. Especially since I don't have the funds to replace my gear i it should cook or brick itself.

The TC should be setup up for those involved to bring their A Game. No doubt. But should not excluded those that don't have the uber systems. I have a hard enough time competeing in my Category as it is now against i5's and Intel Quad cores, now I may have to worry about GPUs that can out perform me on a consistent basis too? I fail to see where the competition is there.

This is another X6/2500k incident here.
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I'm afraid that you're already within that loss; other things in Cat2 can get similar (and better) PPD than the GTX 465. We can't make all hardware the same; we try and find a balance between allowing everyone to compete, but there still being an incentive to buy better hardware.

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Well I can say that the TC has been very successful in alienating the X6 from the competition for the most part so the "force to upgrade" plan is working. 8/10 of the "X6/2500k" section are 2500k and the top 6 of that section are 2500k. Congratulations on your success there.

If your end goal is to turn the TC into an Elitist Competition you are doing it right. Like I said. I can't afford to upgrade my gear. And there are others like me. Don't push us out. Take into consideration every angle possible. We still want to partake in these competitions.
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post #39 of 52

That's quite unfair. The X6s were perfectly competitive until the normal -bigadv WUs were taken out; it's not my fault that the P6903/6904s are still around; had they been taken out when they should have, they'd be on a level playing field. I've already posted above as to why I'm not making any changes; end of May, we're looking to change a fair few things.

 

As for making it elitist - there are two options:

 

1) Add a new category every year or so for older hardware to keep them in.

2) Phase out really old hardware, and instead make "current" old hardware the new Cat2 standard.

 

 

Option one might allow for more Folders to take part, but really, teams get too big and unwieldy. There needs to be a cut off point for this type of event. The TC is meant to be elitist; it's means to be people getting good hardware. and pushing it as much as possible. We try to cater to as wide a range of CPUs and GPUs as possible, but as tech evolves, we simply need to adjust.

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Is there enough people to do a X6 slot then? If 10 people were willing to do X6 slot then that might be fair. So how much ppd does a X6 do on a 6903 WU max overclock? Surely it cant be far off what a 2500k can do?
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Overclock.net › Groups › OCN Folding@Home Team Competition - Captains Forum › Discussions › Will the 3770k and 3570k be allowed to take over as the 2600k and 2500k slot respectively?