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Originally Posted by BWG View Post

I am not sure I understand Desert Rat's idea about a 20k PPD cap in Cat 2. Are you saying move hardware into to the category that performs lower than 20k PPD? I can see that. I hope you were not suggesting putting hardware in that is capable of more than 20k PPD and capping it. We will just have a bunch of people folding 20k PPD in Cat 2.

Im suggesting letting any folding gear that can get up to 20k ppd. That will open up TC for a lot of people with odd folding gear that does not fit any where else.

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Originally Posted by Erick Silver View Post

21,000 points difference in a month is small enough to make them compete?
I have a hard enough time competeing in my Category as it is now against i5's and Intel Quad cores, now I may have to worry about GPUs that can out perform me on a consistent basis too?

21k ppm(points per month) is not a big difference. The gap now is bigger than that between GTS 450 and the quads.

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I'm afraid that you're already within that loss; other things in Cat2 can get similar (and better) PPD than the GTX 465. We can't make all hardware the same; we try and find a balance between allowing everyone to compete, but there still being an incentive to buy better hardware.

I happen to agree with her on this.

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Originally Posted by $ilent View Post

Is there enough people to do a X6 slot then? If 10 people were willing to do X6 slot then that might be fair. So how much ppd does a X6 do on a 6903 WU max overclock? Surely it cant be far off what a 2500k can do?

The X6 are very close ppd wise to the 2500k but they lack the little extra power to finish 6904 wu's unless they are clocked to around 4.1ghz . I had X6 in my team and did very good in the competition. You just need a nice chip, nice cooling and good upload speeds too. You cant do it half azz with a X6.
Edited by Desert Rat - 4/12/12 at 5:04pm
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I get just under 230k on 6903 with my X6 in native linux at 3.96GHz and 2.96GHz CPU NB with 1600 Cas 6 Ram. I am <2 mins TPF short on 6904, so it is not folding till I overclock more.

 
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The X6 are very close ppd wise to the 2500k but they lack the little extra power to finish 6904 wu's unless they are clocked to around 4.1ghz . I had X6 in my team and did very good in the competition. You just need a nice chip, nice cooling and good upload speeds too. You cant do it half azz with a X6.

Well I never moaned with my 2500k at 4.7ghz when that couldnt compete 6904 WU in time. So how is the X6 slot ruined erick? Sounds like your just being negative on page 4.
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I get just under 230k on 6903 with my X6 in native linux at 3.96GHz and 2.96GHz CPU NB with 1600 Cas 6 Ram. I am <2 mins TPF short on 6904, so it is not folding till I overclock more.



I would imagine a bit more than just under 230k. :rolleyes:

 

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Yeah, it is not real great quite honestly. I have to push unsafe voltage to get it any higher.

 
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post #46 of 52
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Well I never moaned with my 2500k at 4.7ghz when that couldnt compete 6904 WU in time. So how is the X6 slot ruined erick? Sounds like your just being negative on page 4.

I have my X6 at 3.8Ghz and 1.50v. Any higher and I risk unsafe voltages. I have yet to see an X6 at anything higher than maybe 4.2Ghz under water. And even then it was at peak safe or over safe voltage. Yet the 2500k can reach 4.5Ghz+ quite easily on basic water cooling. There is a significant difference in the ability of these 2 chips. Yes an X6 chip can do the 6903/6904 WU. But usually a golden chip. And apparently those are not as abundant as the 2500k able to crank these WU out.

Its not negativity that I am speaking here but straight truth.
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post #47 of 52
Looks like Ivy is around 5% faster per clock, but much hotter and a worse clocker. Sandy looks like it is still the way to go unless running 2400 - 2600 ram is going to make a big difference.
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Id imagine 2600mhz ram will make a considerable difference.
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Going from 1600 to 2133 made about a 1:30 difference on a hugeadv for me. So I would expect the drop to be around the same, but with a slower overclock. The 5% gain in core speed won't be enough if sandy can still clock 300 - 400mhz faster. It's still all speculation of course, but you hear the same thing from all over the place.
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The most obvious advantage with IVY is the power reduction..... save some $$$ on those darn electric bills thumb.gif
    
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