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i wrote this http://www.overclock.net/t/1234942/amd-phenom-ii-x4-965-vs-fx-4100-and-motherboard-suggestion#post_16820517
but what about an i3 for that purpose?
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For that purpose(games), I would recommend the i3. It's a cheap little beast, and at 3.1GHz it's more than enough for a single GPU like for e.g a GTX560Ti since he'll be gaming. I've the 955BE myself, and it's a wonderful processor. But the i3 is just a leap forwards and is more efficient. It'll provide better performance in single threaded apps, whereas the 955 should excel when doing things which likes more than >2 cores.

You also have a better upgrade path down the road if you take the i3 and a Gen3 board: Ivy Bridge/2500K/2600K. smile.gif The only drawback with the i3 is that you can't OC it, other than that it's a marvelous chip.

You can also look at the 960T AM3 chip if you want to stay with AMD. It can overlock, possibly unlock to 6cores and hit 4GHz easily with cheap coolers like the 212+ and that's real value for the money! biggrin.gif
Edited by dipanzan - 4/8/12 at 12:35am
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For that purpose(games), I would recommend the i3. It's a cheap little beast, and at 3.1GHz it's more than enough for a single GPU like for e.g a GTX560Ti since he'll be gaming. I've the 955BE myself, and it's a wonderful processor. But the i3 is just a leap forwards and is more efficient. It'll provide better performance in single threaded apps, whereas the 955 should excel when doing things which likes more than >2 cores.
You also have a better upgrade path down the road if you take the i3 and a Gen3 board: Ivy Bridge/2500K/2600K. smile.gif The only drawback with the i3 is that you can't OC it, other than that it's a marvelous chip.

^ I agree totally as for gaming it will be more then enough and is more efficient then the PII cpus. And dont forget that you can drop a IvyBridge cpu into a SB mobo.
 
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Ok Thanks. How about the graphics? Do 2d graphics apps use efficiently more than two cores?
Is the Asus P8H67 Rev3.0 a good choice?

K.

ps. he's not interested in overclock
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i agree with above, i have an i3 2100 in my HTPC and its a little beast hey, i know its only 2 phsical cores but does have hyperthreading so 4 threads...
i also managed to get mine to run at 3.2 instaed of the stock 3.1 smile.gif with the asus turbo V feature, 100Mhz overclock FTW tongue.gif
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that is a very nice asus board i got the h61 for my htpc but the H67 has more features, like more sata 3 ports etc smile.gif
ps are you gonna use a discrete GPU or onboard?
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Ok Thanks. How about the graphics? Do 2d graphics apps use efficiently more than two cores?
Is the Asus P8H67 Rev3.0 a good choice?
K.
ps. he's not interested in overclock

That depends on the actual software, and whether it's coded to use 2core or possibly more than 2 cores depending on the work load.

I guess a simple 2100 will be fine for your mate, or you can simply spend a bit more and get a i5 2400 which will give you two more cores(more future proof) and a simple H61/H67 will do depending on whether you'll need a discreet GPU or suffice with the onboard HD3k. smile.gif

EDIT: A simple H61 will do. biggrin.gif
Edited by dipanzan - 4/8/12 at 1:02am
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you can use onboard graphics on h67 and h61 cant you? i have a GT220 plugged into my h61 board

heres the difference between the 2 smile.gif http://ark.intel.com/compare/52807,52806
Edited by Jimbags - 4/8/12 at 1:00am
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H61 and h67 both do on die graphics.

I sidegraded from a 955be to an i3, never saw a drop in performance for games, and had the option to throw an i5 in it down the road (which I did.)

I would for sure go the i3 over the amd equivalent, if only for the price on the current sandybridge i5s, and hopefully the price reduction soon as well.
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you can use onboard graphics on h67 and h61 cant you? i have a GT220 plugged into my h61 board

Opps, you are correct. Here's the difference between the two: http://ark.intel.com/compare/52807,52806

The H61 should be more cheaper, just less USB/SATA ports.
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