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The deathadder is a great deal bigger and more awkwardly shaped than this mouse. I doubt coating will make a big difference when the size is what it is.

I know.
Just pointed out that coating can ruin a mouse 100% biggrin.gif
Like zowie EC evo and DA BE.
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It's a preference thing, I had the same problem with the NORMAL DA and the BE was fine for me tongue.gif
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sorry to get offtopic but is the 3.0's side coating close to evos coating or no?
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Hi everyone, sorry I didn't see this thread until now, I was keeping everything in one place at ESR, so that no one got confused over where to look for new info, and when I checked here in the past there wasn't anyone talking about it here, so I didn't look for a while.

I read through the thread, skipping some of the OT stuff, and thought I'd answer some questions:

1) The mouse shell doesn't come from the same factory as the Valor as far as I know. I've never seen that shape in their line up (and I've seen all their OEM shapes now). I have seen factories which make the Valor mouse, but I wasn't looking for that shape of mouse (especially since Puretrak already uses it).

2) The 3050 version is nice, its not really a high DPI mouse, its main thing is very high tracking speed (I am aware there are mice out there that use the 3050 sensor that don't have high tracking speed, but honesty it does on this mouse wink.gif). Its a bit cheaper than the 3090 sensor, so its good if you're a low sens player who doesn't need high DPI and want to save some money. The problem is I think its a bit too niche at the moment, and tbh you don't save a huge amount of money, thats why I started the 3090 version, which should be better suited for more types of gamer - high or low sens, RTS or FPS.

3) The beta testers will get both versions of the mice, 3050 and 3090 (although some beta testers are only getting the 3090 version because there will be more of those samples). So basically it depends how it goes. I think the 3090 will definitely be in the line up, but the 3050 might end up not being released at first. Its just simpler to use one sensor at first, and I think the 3090 is a good one to start with, the 3050 can be a more budget/niche version for later. Thats how I see it now anyway.

4) I've been using the mouse with the Huano side switches and scroll wheel button for a few months now, and so far theres been no quality issues I can report. They feel fine to me, and I use them a lot. It just comes down to a lack of choice really, given I have to work with an OEM shell - I wasn't too thrilled about Huano switches either, but I gave them a try, and they feel fine. I really wouldn't use them if I thought they were bad.

5) I know its got a bit of a strange look about it, with its stripes etc, but I think the pics don't do it justice, its not a bad looker once you have it in front of you (at least I think it looks nice). My favourite thing about the mouse is its shape rather than its looks, the best thing about it is I don't notice it when I'm using it in game, its a bit of a strange thing I've never really had before, thats what drew me to it over the other shapes I tested. Its never made my hand ache, and I use it all day every day (sad, aren't I!). I know it won't be like that for everyone, but anyone whos like me will forget about how it looks once they start to use it wink.gif

I know its taking a long time to develop the mouse, and I could have released the 3050 version quite a while ago. However I don't want to rush it and get it wrong, and that applies to all aspects of the business. I hate mistakes due to poor planning and rushing. I just want quality and honesty in all areas. Its hard to do it as a new small business, but I am trying my hardest.

The good thing is that although its taking time right now, once this mouse is finished, its not such a huge deal to put the same sensor setup into other shapes. During all this time I have found some really nice ones (I never stop looking), so I really hope this first mouse does well, then I'll be able to do that.
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The man himself.

Looking forward to June. Or July..
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Good to hear from you bst here aswell.

I think you made the right choice not to rush anything, its just stupid to rush and release a half asses product.
Better make it as good as possible before releasing it, even If im dying to get my hands on one when you release them biggrin.gif

Also think its a really good call to release with 3090 sensor to fit more people and just not a small group.

Looking forward to this mouse alot, been looking for a new mouse even since the Logitech G3 era. And honesly if the g3 had a better sensor I would just use it nowdays aswell since the shell with sidebutton is perfect, just wished for a better sensor and 1 extra sidebutton on left side.

BST mouse of doom might finally be something I can be happy with and not have 2-4 mice connected to my computer all the time.
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Good to hear from you bst here aswell.
I think you made the right choice not to rush anything, its just stupid to rush and release a half asses product.
Better make it as good as possible before releasing it, even If im dying to get my hands on one when you release them biggrin.gif
Also think its a really good call to release with 3090 sensor to fit more people and just not a small group.
Looking forward to this mouse alot, been looking for a new mouse even since the Logitech G3 era. And honesly if the g3 had a better sensor I would just use it nowdays aswell since the shell with sidebutton is perfect, just wished for a better sensor and 1 extra sidebutton on left side.
BST mouse of doom might finally be something I can be happy with and not have 2-4 mice connected to my computer all the time.

All of this! I love the g3 shape more than any other mouse I've ever used too, but the sensor was just unacceptably poor. Can't wait to get the bst mouse and test it out.
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Thanks for the headsup bst.

I use the Zowie AM now and also do not notice or feel it when using. I think that makes a good mouse, if it is like an extension of your hand, rather than a tool in your hand. What got me interested in your mouse is the G3 like rear of the mouse shell. I used a logitech mouse at work which had a similar rear and I absolutely loved it, much better than the WMO like rear of the AM.
Another thing is the lower profile. I used the Zowie EC for a bit and it felt too high, while the lower proile of the AM is just right. Another thing your mouse got covered.
The sensor of course. After using the low sense, low LOD, no acceleration, no prediction, super precise sensor of the AM, I cannot go back anymore.
The separate buttons (not part of the top shell) is probably a good thing.
Non rubber, but also non glossy sides might be a good thing.
Also I love wheels with a glowing rim. I don't like if the entire wheel glows.


Does it mean you are ditching the omrons? Or do you mean that you have huano's for side buttons and wheel and omrons for the main buttons? However you decide, I only hope the click will be light enough, but not too light and mushy and will have a short travel and a quick actuation. I actually like the highly criticised switches of the AM, fast and sharp click, unfortunately they are really a tad bit to stiff.


Keep us posted.
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What I like the most about this mouse is the Copperhead like shape they did choose.
Looks promising for sure.
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Thanks for the headsup bst.
I use the Zowie AM now and also do not notice or feel it when using. I think that makes a good mouse, if it is like an extension of your hand, rather than a tool in your hand. What got me interested in your mouse is the G3 like rear of the mouse shell. I used a logitech mouse at work which had a similar rear and I absolutely loved it, much better than the WMO like rear of the AM.
Another thing is the lower profile. I used the Zowie EC for a bit and it felt too high, while the lower proile of the AM is just right. Another thing your mouse got covered.
The sensor of course. After using the low sense, low LOD, no acceleration, no prediction, super precise sensor of the AM, I cannot go back anymore.
The separate buttons (not part of the top shell) is probably a good thing.
Non rubber, but also non glossy sides might be a good thing.
Also I love wheels with a glowing rim. I don't like if the entire wheel glows.
Does it mean you are ditching the omrons? Or do you mean that you have huano's for side buttons and wheel and omrons for the main buttons? However you decide, I only hope the click will be light enough, but not too light and mushy and will have a short travel and a quick actuation. I actually like the highly criticised switches of the AM, fast and sharp click, unfortunately they are really a tad bit to stiff.
Keep us posted.

from what i read the haunos are only the side buttons and the omrons are still the main buttons
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