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Hey Sean, is it safe to use programs such as File Shredder to erase certain documents or other confidential files from an SSD? Could it potentially damage the SSD?

I use File Shredder which is included in Your Uninstaller.
Hell no, don't use it, they're useless on SSD as well (LBAs managed by controller and then by OS, program isn't writing where it thinks it is anyways)

TRIM does a far better job anyways.
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I was just about to post asking when you were going to do a Windows 8 guide. Thanks for this! biggrin.gif
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whats different between windows 7 guide and this?? I did an upgrade from 7 so what do I need to do?
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If you bother to actually read the Microsoft guide for setting up Windows 8 - It speciffically tells you that Windows 8 works differently than the way Win 7 works and to NOT DISABLE PREFETCH OR SUPERFETCH!!!

You need to make people aware that the advice you are giving on these parameters CONTRADICTS the manufacturers advice mate!

And, if you also bother to read the manufacturers advice, you will see that INTEL tell you the same very thing!

Your guides might have been gospel for Win 7, but this is a whole new kettle of fish and copy and paste advice is not the best solution here - it is a new system and you need to have a bit of a read up from people who designed the system before posting your half cocked advice that may do more harm than good!
Edited by Miggins - 11/7/12 at 3:26am
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If I was you, I would simply disconnect any add on drives, making sure that you had an ISO image of the new Win 8 DVD, then perform a clean install - the only thing after that would be to connect your additional hard drives one at a time to make sure that you get them in some sort of order you want. Turn off the system restore, move the pagefile to a spinner drive and not an SSD, switch off Hibernation, and the rest - leave well alone and just see how well it runs.

As I said in an earlier post, the advice about editing the registry and fiddling with services is completely contrary to what both Microsoft and Intel advise - Superfetch and Prefetch do not work as they did on Win 7 - some of the advice here is just some cut and paste **** from a previous Win 7 OS install! READ what Microsoft and Intel advise before you go changing and pissing with registry entries and services. This is the most stable system I have ever installed from the word go - it needs very little "fiddling"on our part, it does mainly what it is supposed to do!
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Yes, but be careful as some of the advice is incorrect regarding Prefetch and Superfetch especially!
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I disabled it. Why should you leave Superfetch and Prefetch enabled? Should I re-enable it?
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If you bother to actually read the Microsoft guide for setting up Windows 8 - It speciffically tells you that Windows 8 works differently than the way Win 7 works and to NOT DISABLE PREFETCH OR SUPERFETCH!!!
You need to make people aware that the advice you are giving on these parameters CONTRADICTS the manufacturers advice mate!
And, if you also bother to read the manufacturers advice, you will see that INTEL tell you the same very thing!
Your guides might have been gospel for Win 7, but this is a whole new kettle of fish and copy and paste advice is not the best solution here - it is a new system and you need to have a bit of a read up from people who designed the system before posting your half cocked advice that may do more harm than good!

Do you have any sources? I'm having a hard time believing someone who is insulting someone who has made amazing guides for a couple years now perfect windows installations.

I'd like to add yes I have disabled prefetch and super fetch and I have not had a single hiccup or issue with windows 8 at all. I think once in a great while my Firefox may crash while watching Netflix but that's it. So a source or proof that its beneficial to leave it on would be fantastic! thumb.gif
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If you bother to actually read the Microsoft guide for setting up Windows 8 - It speciffically tells you that Windows 8 works differently than the way Win 7 works and to NOT DISABLE PREFETCH OR SUPERFETCH!!!

You need to make people aware that the advice you are giving on these parameters CONTRADICTS the manufacturers advice mate!

And, if you also bother to read the manufacturers advice, you will see that INTEL tell you the same very thing!

Your guides might have been gospel for Win 7, but this is a whole new kettle of fish and copy and paste advice is not the best solution here - it is a new system and you need to have a bit of a read up from people who designed the system before posting your half cocked advice that may do more harm than good!

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If I was you, I would simply disconnect any add on drives, making sure that you had an ISO image of the new Win 8 DVD, then perform a clean install - the only thing after that would be to connect your additional hard drives one at a time to make sure that you get them in some sort of order you want. Turn off the system restore, move the pagefile to a spinner drive and not an SSD, switch off Hibernation, and the rest - leave well alone and just see how well it runs.

As I said in an earlier post, the advice about editing the registry and fiddling with services is completely contrary to what both Microsoft and Intel advise - Superfetch and Prefetch do not work as they did on Win 7 - some of the advice here is just some cut and paste **** from a previous Win 7 OS install! READ what Microsoft and Intel advise before you go changing and pissing with registry entries and services. This is the most stable system I have ever installed from the word go - it needs very little "fiddling"on our part, it does mainly what it is supposed to do!

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Yes, but be careful as some of the advice is incorrect regarding Prefetch and Superfetch especially!
Is it really that hard to give a link to two, but easier to just yell and complain with no backup evidence or proof?

Do you even know what superfetch does?

Why would you disable system restore or move the page file to a HDD? Do you even know anything on those? lol

Just calm down and send me some links. thumb.gif
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Hi, thanks for updating this for Windows 8 as I know a few of these things were helpful to me in Windows 7. Regarding Superfetch, I liked when I disabled it in Windows 7 but this defragmenting program, MyDefrag, has some issues if you completely disable it so I've gotten used to just making it work on boot files only (value set to 2 in the registry); I guess I want to ask if the same values work in Win 8 that I used in Win 7? Another thing is the Windows System Protection feature, this is the third time I've disabled it but something keeps turning it back on.. what could be doing that?
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