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Next point - It is also advised to disable or turn off UAC control for Win 8 by sliding the slider to "Never Notify" This actually does not DISABLE UAC - at all, it only reduces the amount of annoying messages you get - Disabling UAC requires you to go around and hack the registry (which you don't want to do anyway)

The way that Win 8 works differently to 7 in this respect Win 8 has another security system that involves an "Integrity" check which is a little more advanced than the UAC on its own. Even though you drop UAC to "Never Notify" it is not disabled. Win 8 uses some software called "App_container" as far as I can gather, a type of Sandbox for Apps.

If you hack your registry and disable UAC altogether, then you will never be able to run or install an APP with Metro.

If you want to hack it - "enableLUA" key and set it to 0 from the registry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System.

One more point I wanted to ask Sean about was disabling the GUI. Is it not possible to disable the GUI via the Group Policies Editor rather than using a bit of a BLAG with MSCONFIG, which doesn't really switch anything off properly and sort of glosses over it?

Cheers!
post #132 of 848
I don't know if anyone else has this issue too but with Superfetch enabled on a Western Digital Caviar Black (SATA II), it has a tendency to make the drive work really hard when I access something random. I had the same thing in Windows 7 and just setting superfetch to boot files only gets rid of the heavy reading that happens. It's actually a pretty loud noise that it makes plus Windows folders stop reacting for a few seconds; pretty annoying when I try to browse my storage drive but as I said, setting superfetch to boot only gets rid of this.

Someguy -

Sorry,
I was only referring to Superfetch with an SSD, my comments were limited to that and that only - I am not commenting about Spinner Drives whether SATA 1, 1.5, 2 or 3 -

I am just trying to clarify some settings for Win 8 on expensive SSD's that if set incorrectly may give additional wear.

In the real world, Prefetch is where I expect my wife to instinctively know that I need another cold beer, SUPERFETCH is when I have to yell at her to bring it "ON THE DOUBLE WOMAN!"
post #133 of 848
I believe the group policies editor is not available in home basic which is what I use, I had to edit my registry to disable the lock and login screen since I don't have the group policy editor.

On a side note you should try to get all your replies in one post so it doesn't clutter up the thread like crazy, and there is a quote button to properly quote someone.
post #134 of 848
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Next point - It is also advised to disable or turn off UAC control for Win 8 by sliding the slider to "Never Notify" This actually does not DISABLE UAC - at all, it only reduces the amount of annoying messages you get - Disabling UAC requires you to go around and hack the registry (which you don't want to do anyway)
I like not seeing millions of annoying messages. biggrin.gif
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The way that Win 8 works differently to 7 in this respect Win 8 has another security system that involves an "Integrity" check which is a little more advanced than the UAC on its own. Even though you drop UAC to "Never Notify" it is not disabled. Win 8 uses some software called "App_container" as far as I can gather, a type of Sandbox for Apps.

If you hack your registry and disable UAC altogether, then you will never be able to run or install an APP with Metro.

If you want to hack it - "enableLUA" key and set it to 0 from the registry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System.

Alright I'll pop this in the guide as well. smile.gif
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One more point I wanted to ask Sean about was disabling the GUI. Is it not possible to disable the GUI via the Group Policies Editor rather than using a bit of a BLAG with MSCONFIG, which doesn't really switch anything off properly and sort of glosses over it?

Cheers!
This?
http://www.howtogeek.com/109968/6-great-tricks-for-windows-8-that-you-probably-dont-know/
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In the real world, Prefetch is where I expect my wife to instinctively know that I need another cold beer, SUPERFETCH is when I have to yell at her to bring it "ON THE DOUBLE WOMAN!"
lachen.gif

Oh and my friend a question on windows 8 superfetch and he replied with this
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I sent mark Russinovich an email asking if there have been any changes with super fetch in Windows 8. So I guess we will find out, but whether or not he replies can be a little bit hit and miss sometimes.

Got anything else I can add to this or suggest taking out or anything? biggrin.gif
post #135 of 848
Dear Sean,
What do you think about ".NET Framework 3.5" turn on in Windows Features?
Should it be done as "have to" before installing the drivers and C++ runtimes?
All the best
post #136 of 848
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ESP - 100MB - This is the UEFI System partition...
I made a lot of installations and I always see only 99MB...
post #137 of 848
Good update Sean - and you may want to let every sad bum know that purchased an Asus P8Z77V-Deluxe that Asus have in the past couple of days updated their second update of Asus suite (or not to sweet if you installed it - bordering on rather sour - 2.00.01) to Asus Suite 2.01.01 This seems to have addressed the problems I had with their crap Network i Control - and it also confirms that Lucid Logic - the fly by night Graphics "Wizards" are no longer supported on Win 8 from ASUS! Thank the lord as their software was as bad as their business plan......going cheap very very soon...impressive portfolio.....doesn't actually work!

Now another question - when I originally installed a fresh install via the Win 8 site - which I burned to DVD as an ISO and ran as a fresh install - my pagefile was almost 47GB (RAM installed is 32GB) - after I ran Win 8 cleanup - what used to be the old "Defrag" Menu- but is now something like "DIAGNOSE", and the Intel Toolbox, my pagefile is sitting at less than 6GB - this is as I said after I went back to Advanced ops and set everything to Windows manage - and took the old 40-90GB pagefile off of the HDD and back to the SSD!
post #138 of 848
The GUI thing is not the same as the Geek site, you suggested turning off the GUI within MSCONFIG - I was looking for a bit more than disabling the lock screen - why anyone would want that damn thing in the first place amazes me!

I was thinking of a boot straight t the log on - none of the blue windows and the little scrolling thing that irritates.

You know, id enough people keep posting their gripes and dislikes, we will soon have a system that works like we want it to rather than how Microsoft want it to!

Love it!
post #139 of 848
Hey Sean.

Sorry for the annoying PM frown.gif Great guide by the way.

Could you please help me install windows with UEFI. My problem is that my dvd drive isn't showing up as a UEFI device but my flash which I formatted as per your instructions does.

I'm running the Asus maximus IV extreme

Any help would be appreciated.
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post #140 of 848
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Originally Posted by nickrsk View Post

Dear Sean,
What do you think about ".NET Framework 3.5" turn on in Windows Features?
Should it be done as "have to" before installing the drivers and C++ runtimes?
All the best
idk, turn it on if you need it. Otherwise dont worry about it.
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ESP - 100MB - This is the UEFI System partition...
I made a lot of installations and I always see only 99MB...
Where do you see 99MB? It really doesn't matter. 100MB = 102400B

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Originally Posted by Miggins View Post

Good update Sean - and you may want to let every sad bum know that purchased an Asus P8Z77V-Deluxe that Asus have in the past couple of days updated their second update of Asus suite (or not to sweet if you installed it - bordering on rather sour - 2.00.01) to Asus Suite 2.01.01 This seems to have addressed the problems I had with their crap Network i Control - and it also confirms that Lucid Logic - the fly by night Graphics "Wizards" are no longer supported on Win 8 from ASUS! Thank the lord as their software was as bad as their business plan......going cheap very very soon...impressive portfolio.....doesn't actually work!
People can figure it out on their own. smile.gif
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Now another question - when I originally installed a fresh install via the Win 8 site - which I burned to DVD as an ISO and ran as a fresh install - my pagefile was almost 47GB (RAM installed is 32GB) - after I ran Win 8 cleanup - what used to be the old "Defrag" Menu- but is now something like "DIAGNOSE", and the Intel Toolbox, my pagefile is sitting at less than 6GB - this is as I said after I went back to Advanced ops and set everything to Windows manage - and took the old 40-90GB pagefile off of the HDD and back to the SSD!
Wait, what is the question exactly?
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The GUI thing is not the same as the Geek site, you suggested turning off the GUI within MSCONFIG - I was looking for a bit more than disabling the lock screen - why anyone would want that damn thing in the first place amazes me!

I was thinking of a boot straight t the log on - none of the blue windows and the little scrolling thing that irritates.
lol, update me if you find anything.
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You know, id enough people keep posting their gripes and dislikes, we will soon have a system that works like we want it to rather than how Microsoft want it to!

Love it!
Yea! I am still on Windows 7 myself cause I don't like the UI of Windows 8 that much. Plus some of my software wont work atm.
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Hey Sean.

Sorry for the annoying PM frown.gif Great guide by the way.

Could you please help me install windows with UEFI. My problem is that my dvd drive isn't showing up as a UEFI device but my flash which I formatted as per your instructions does.

I'm running the Asus maximus IV extreme

Any help would be appreciated.
Why not just install with the flash drive then? You really don't need to use GPT, only if you want the OS partition over 2.2TB.
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