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Nevermind, got it.
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Thoughts?

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Sean: great guide - thank you! I just used it for a clean Windows 8.1 installation. The steps for Win8.1 have a few minor variations from Win8, but the differences were easy to navigate - except for this one:

The issue is when I installed Windows 8.1, the Recovery partition was too small (EUFI/GPT). However not knowing any better before the installion, I let it default (without using DiskPart) and it was 300Mb (like Win8).

The symptom is that, while Windows installs and runs fine, but when trying to perform a System Image, it throws error 0x80780119 (not enough space).

The problem is that the data on the Recovery partition took up more space than formerly used by Windows 8 (my guess is that Microsoft did not compensate by changing the parameter when creating the Recovery partition).

The result is that there was not enough room to perform a Shadow Copy of the Recovery partition when making a System Image.

The impact on me was that Win8.1's build-in System Image (find it in Control Panel's File History) failed to run due to insufficient disk space on that partition. Very annoying. I do not know if this impacts other third party backup (not tried yet).

The reason I care is that I like performing a System Image of the OS after configuration and before installing programs and Window's built-in System Image is just what I need to capture a super clean snapshot.

My suggestion is to add a step to "Configure drive using an UEFI motherboard and GPT format" in the section "Booting and partitioning of GPT for Windows 8" after Step "7. Type Convert GPT, press Enter"

While in the SHIFT-F10 and DiskPart, create and set the Recovery partition to a size between 350MB and 490MB. Apparently, if the size is over 500MB, then you need more space for the Shadow Copy

You can find more details here

The short story is:
create partition primary size=490
format quick fs=ntfs label="Windows RE tools"
set id="de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac"
gpt attributes=0x8000000000000001

Full disclosure, I did not do this because I had already installed my OS and did not want to go back to reinstall. This is what I wish I had known to do prior to the OS installation for Windows 8.1.

I am no expert in this and learned at the "school of hard knocks" here, so I hope it helps someone else and that people more knowledgeable than I can streamline the guide.

FYI: I heard that newer Win8.1 installation package make an adjustment to 350MB, which should be enough, but there does not seem to be an easy way to know which version you have prior to installation.



P.S. The Windows Experience GUI was removed from Win8.1, but you can still run it from Admin Command Prompt with: "Winsat formal -v"
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Hey Sean is the below correct for creating a bootable usb with Windows 8 using 8192 cluster size.

Diskpart
List Disk
Select Disk #
Clean
Create Partition Primary
Active
Format Quick FS=FAT32 UNIT=8192
Assign
Exit
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So should I shrink the page file on my new installation?

I now have a 750GB SSD so space isnt a concern.
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with 16gb ram yes imo you should
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1GB page file should be fine for ya.

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...Spinnning down and back up again actually shortens it more than having them spin constantly.

That is a myth.
Edited by Lady Fitzgerald - 3/5/14 at 5:22am
     
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...Spinnning down and back up again actually shortens it more than having them spin constantly.
That is a myth.

That's not a myth, that's fact. Plenty of WD green drives suffered from premature death due to load/unload cycling every 8 seconds. Most HDD's are only rated for 300,000 load/unload cycles.
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That's not a myth, that's fact. Plenty of WD green drives suffered from premature death due to load/unload cycling every 8 seconds. Most HDD's are only rated for 300,000 load/unload cycles.

That was the head parking bug the early Greens had (which as been fixed). Parking every 8 seconds is a far cry from parking only a few times a day. In theory a HDD running 24/7 and parking the heads every 8 seconds would reach 300,000 cycles in only a little over three days. I had one of the early Greens with the head parking bug and it lasted a bit over a year while running 24/7. If one parks the heads only 20 times a day, in theory, the drive would take a bit over 41 years to reach 300,000 cycles. Reaching 300,000 cycles does not mean it will die then. It could die sooner; it could last longer.

Check here and read Myth #32.
     
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