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Hi guys, longtime AMD cpu fanboy here. first build was with athlon XP and X2 2 ghz after. Sadly had to switch before bulldozer frown.gif

Anywho, I'm planning on making another AMD rig, but I've been out of the loop for far too long to differentiate, and I'm using it for a bit unfamiliar territory: server.

My purpose is likely to be primarily a file sharing server, but I also might host some CS:S or TF2 games down the road. My isp upload bandwidth might be a little small (4 Mbps, Cable) , but I'm going to try regardless.

I'm also dead set on using Windows Home Server 2011


Which one do you guys think will do the job better, FX 4100 or Phenom 2 960T? they're about the same price at microcenter with a motherboard combo to boot smile.gif
 
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I was suggested the 960t over the FX and that's what I have bought and I am happy that bought it, but a month or two down the line i am getting the FX 4170 just for my linux server.
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If it is just file sharing rig and occasional game host I think FX-4100 will be better here, since it has lower idle power draw. BD is originally a server design that got scale down to desktop section.

However at load FX-4100 draws more power than 960T clock to clock.
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If it is just file sharing rig and occasional game host I think FX-4100 will be better here, since it has lower idle power draw. BD is originally a server design that got scale down to desktop section.
However at load FX-4100 draws more power than 960T clock to clock.

hrm. alright, I think I'll go with the FX-4100 then. Good to know it has a server architecture.

I hope the board I get won't need to be flashed.
 
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I have a home server that is primarily a file-sharer in my house. 16TB of storage so far, and room for 12 more HDDs. I also use it to scrape meta-data for my media and take my DVR recordings and encode them to h264. Also using WHS 2011.

For this I use an AMD Sempron 140 with 2GB RAM. Runs it flawlessly. the CPU is rated at 45W. The entire system draws 130W at the plug.

I had originally unlocked the Sempron to a dual core Athlon, but was just drawing about 20W more at the plug and it was wasted electricity. The second core was only ever used for the h264 encodes, which happen to run overnight while I'm sleeping so quickness of the encodes did not matter.

The point I was trying to say is you don't need hardly any processing power for a primarily file-sharing Server. You can pick up a Sempron 140 on ebay/amazon for less than $30. You can host your multiplayer games on your main rig in the off-chance your cable connection is good enough.
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I have a home server that is primarily a file-sharer in my house. 16TB of storage so far, and room for 12 more HDDs. I also use it to scrape meta-data for my media and take my DVR recordings and encode them to h264. Also using WHS 2011.
For this I use an AMD Sempron 140 with 2GB RAM. Runs it flawlessly. the CPU is rated at 45W. The entire system draws 130W at the plug.
I had originally unlocked the Sempron to a dual core Athlon, but was just drawing about 20W more at the plug and it was wasted electricity. The second core was only ever used for the h264 encodes, which happen to run overnight while I'm sleeping so quickness of the encodes did not matter.
The point I was trying to say is you don't need hardly any processing power for a primarily file-sharing Server. You can pick up a Sempron 140 on ebay/amazon for less than $30. You can host your multiplayer games on your main rig in the off-chance your cable connection is good enough.

Valid point. The thing is I could get the motherboard and cpu for 100 which I feel is alright so might as well go supersize.

I guess I could choose between the Sempron and Celeron G530 if I am going to downsize


as an aside, I had an older Sempron back then. I think was on AM2 though, and pretty sure less than 1.6ghz. I could barely host CS:S at 12 players, but I think it was more of a connection issue:p
 
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A server enviroment is one area an FX chip will serve you quite well in. The 4100 is really easy to keep cool and draws power similar to that of Sandy Bridge quads which is not much at all.

Another plus would be the more advanced IMC. It'll handle larger faster memory more easily which you might find useful if you're running TF2/CSS servers.

I wouldn't buy a Sempron or Celeron if you plan to host those servers by the way.
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Quote:
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A server enviroment is one area an FX chip will serve you quite well in. The 4100 is really easy to keep cool and draws power similar to that of Sandy Bridge quads which is not much at all.
Another plus would be the more advanced IMC. It'll handle larger faster memory more easily which you might find useful if you're running TF2/CSS servers.
I wouldn't buy a Sempron or Celeron if you plan to host those servers by the way.

Out of all the benchmark I have seen, Intel scored a lot better with memory performance than FX (which is why memory speed scale better with FX than Intel). I agree that at idle FX-4100 is more power efficient but at load SB i5 consumes less power than 4100.
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If it is just file sharing rig and occasional game host I think FX-4100 will be better here, since it has lower idle power draw. BD is originally a server design that got scale down to desktop section.
However at load FX-4100 draws more power than 960T clock to clock.


I don't think that is correct.  The 4100 consumes much less power than Phenom II quad cores as proved in several tests.

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Thanks guys. I'm going with the FX-4100 + Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 board for the Raid5, and expandability
 
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