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Nokia has the best phone cameras in the industry. That alone is worth the $99 buy in.
     
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I have the Lumina 710 on T-mobile with no complaints. Coming from an Iphone 3gs, I am glad to have made the switch. I am officially apple free after 10 years, and happy about it except for the pita hook built in with having my entire music library through itunes, but there is always a workaround.

And that workaround is called Zune. Just as a music player, it blows away iTunes and its 90's UI. Personally I like seeing the album pictures instead of reading through a list of albums. And for purchasing music, again, Zune pass (only $10/month, unlimited song/music video playback on 3 computers/2 devices, or $15 and that includes keeping 10 songs a month). Honestly, that's the only reason I'd switch over to a Windows phone, but I'm not going to consider one until I can get one used for $100-150 that's nicer than my Droid Incredible.
 
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Source: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2012/04/the-nokia-lumia-900-a-good-phone-at-a-great-price-that-you-probably-shouldnt-buy.ars?clicked=related_right
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The problem isn't the phone hardware. Although its specifications are not the highest, the phone is reasonable for the price, and in practice it remains fast and fluid for everyday tasks.
Nor is the problem the phone software, at least, not as such. Windows Phone 7.5 is, for the most part, a well constructed, slick operating system. It's not perfect, and there are gaps that I'd like filled (for example, I'd like support for VoIP applications), but it's eminently livable. Nokia's unique applications—Drive, Transit, Maps—are all valuable additions that greatly enrich the platform.
No, the problem is, well, the future. Unlike the dumbphones of yore, smartphones are chock full of complex software; software that has bugs, and software that doesn't necessarily do everything that you might want. But this is OK, because it also gets better. Bugfixes are released, new features are added, APIs are extended to enable more powerful applications, and the phones improve with time.
With a dumbphone, the phone is at its best on day one. With an updatable smartphone, it's at its worst on day one.
The problem is, it's not clear just what the Lumia 900's future really is. This is a problem with two causes: AT&T and Microsoft.
I really want the Lumia 900 to be my first smartphone, but after reading this, I'm reconsidering... frown.gif
EDIT: Just wanted to clarify, I'm not hating on the Lumia 900. I've never had a smartphone before, and I was really looking forward to getting the white Lumia 900 as my first smartphone. I'm just starting to wonder if it's a good idea. But after reading the first few posts, it looks like I don't really have anything to worry about.

Lumia 900 will receive Windows Phone 8, it was confirmed by MS Nerd (well known and trusted insider).

http://www.phonearena.com/news/MSNerd-confirms-all-Windows-Phones-getting-Apollo-Nokia-in-charge-of-most-things-chipset-and-camera_id28328
Edited by Kauke - 4/9/12 at 10:28pm
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If it helps you feel any better, I'd had my Windows Phone for 1.5 years, and it's only gotten better since the release with OS updates. Mango 7.5 is great, and I'm excited for the eventual release of Windows Phone 8. I wouldn't be scared of this in the least. Reading the article was kinda funny actually.
Reading about his problem with the keyboard is laughable. This seldom, if ever happens, and he makes it sound like it happens insanely often. Honestly, his nitpicking is at an extreme level. There isn't a piece of software that doesn't have some type of bug once in a while. I've never thought, 'OMG, the Windows Phones is so buggy'. It's actually amazingly less buggy than my Android HTC EVO 4.

I wish that were true.
While I agree that the article is rubbish (I started reading it a few hours ago and gave up after the first few paragraphs), the keyboard issue is really frustrating. The update is available to me, but last time I tried it I ended up getting more severe bugs like not being able to end a call and occasional crashes. I decided to roll back and bear the collapsing keyboard for the sake of not being reminded of my old Android phone which had those severe issues.

Are you guys talking about disappearing keyboard bug?

Lumia is running the latest WP build and does not have that issue, also, AT&T will push Tango to other devices in coming 3-4 weeks, which will address this bug for older phones as well.
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If everyone had this mentality with technology, no one would ever buy anything. The phone works and works well, theres no reason to not get it because of speculation that it might magically suck later. At least with windows phone you can go to the market place and straight up install the vanilla version of Mango/Tango, whatever it is, and have a straight from the factory, no ATT bloatware, Windows phone.
I went and tried one hands on today and I was impressed, don't let fear mongering sway your purchasing decisions. thumb.gif

It's sort of different, you don't have to install any vanilla versions, you can just remove all ATT stuff via the phone itself.
Edited by Kauke - 4/9/12 at 10:34pm
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Lumia 900 will receive Windows Phone 8, it was confirmed by MS Nerd (well known and trusted insider).
http://www.phonearena.com/news/MSNerd-confirms-all-Windows-Phones-getting-Apollo-Nokia-in-charge-of-most-things-chipset-and-camera_id28328

This is great news.
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I was thinking the same thing.
And I've been trying to understand all the hate for AT&T. My wife and I have used AT&T for the past 5+ years and never had any trouble. Am I missing something here?
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I have been wondering the same thing. All I ever hear over the interwebz is AT&T hate, but from the people I know personally who have them I hear nothing really bad at all. I'm hopefully about to jump ship from Alltel and to be honest I don't see how they (AT&T) could be any worse than what I am already dealing with on a regular basis.

To answer those 2 posts, this:
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I had awful reception with AT&T when I was on the east coast for school. I had to use them since I already had my own phone and only AT&T allowed swappable SIM cards at the time. Every month there was always some erroneous fee that I would have to call and have removed, it was such a PITA dealing with them. Also paid something ridiculous like 50 bucks just for basic calling and texting, I pay half that now and can get 1GB of data per month.

Chiefly, the reception. I don't know what AT&T's deal is but their reception throughout the whole state where I am is absolute crap. iPhone ownership here is on a downswing for that reason, because Verizon and T-Mobile get great smart phones and much better reception everywhere. LTE is lacking but Verizon is working quite hard on that.
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I don't know why some of you are criticizing the article, it has very valid concerns about AT&T's policy on rolling out updates for the phones they sell under contract. Like the article says at the beginning, with a dumb phone you get a simple software suite and there is likely to not be any major software problems because people who buy them are not expected to be able to update them like people who buy these more expensive - computer like models. The problem with these advanced phones is that they are very much like computers and the OS working in them needs to be patched. This is not only about future features like some of you seem to have understood, but also patches. If a phone carrier is not willing to roll out a patch as soon as it is made available or within the next few weeks at least, then you have to ask if you really want a phone with a contract. You are essentially buying a computer. I have a Nokia N95, which was bought operator free a few years ago and I installed quite a few system software updates. One of the bugs it had was that it would crash and reboot sometimes when I plugged in my headphones. Imagine someone with an even more advanced phone and having to live with such a bug for months until the carrier decides to roll out the update.
Anyway, I have two questions for you guys that have already used one of these phones:
1. Does it have a brightness control or is the screen always with the same brightness? I suppose it also has an ambient light detector, can it be turned off and you adjust the brightness to your liking?
2. Does it come with Microsoft Office or do you have to create a Live ID account and use Office 365 on-line?

1. It's automated, however, it's the first out of stock phone that I did not feel like adjusting my brightness levels, as it did not feel too bright. It has 3 brightness levels atm that you can change manually.

2. It comes with Office
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