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I'm not really talking about a single Dual GPU card, we need more than 2 GPU's for it to show itself.
Example: 2x590's is worse than 4x 580's.

Yes it's worse in terms of performance but it has to do with GXT590 being clocked lower than GTX580's , but the scaling and stuttering will be exactly the same , lastly Quad SLI with 2 GTX590 will draw less power , generate less heat and be much cooler.


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Your most likely right in terms recent generations, but being a previous owner of x2 9800GX2's and x2 GTX295's. It's was pants. I'm not going down that round again. Plus the h/w issues with the GTX590 on release really made me stand my ground on future purchases.

What issues ? other than someone trying to overclock it too much and ended up frying it which by the way was only his own fault i don't recall none , nor i had any.
In times of 9800GX2 scaling was a main problem i used to have those as well and quad SLI with them was a mistake , the driver support for 4 GPU's wasn't there but single card was fine, bit hot but great performance at the time.
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I'm not really talking about a single Dual GPU card, we need more than 2 GPU's for it to show itself.
Example: 2x590's is worse than 4x 580's.

What are you talking about? its absolutely the same, 4 cards = 4 cards, no matter if they are on 1 PCB or 2...stuttering will be the same.
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What are you talking about? its absolutely the same, 4 cards = 4 cards, no matter if they are on 1 PCB or 2...stuttering will be the same.

Dual GPU's with 2x PCBs is where the issues arrised, since then single PCBs are used.
 
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If you were to make a fair(er) comparison make it 4 GTX570's vs 2 GTX590's though this would be only comparing performance , power draw and noise because rest stays the same.
If you look at it this way Quad SLI with 2 GTX590 looks much better doesn't it ?


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Dual GPU's with 2x PCBs is where the issues arrised, since then single PCBs are used.


HUH ?
Care to explain what's the difference here ? ,as far as i can see there is none if it comes to scaling or stuttering.
Dual GPU with 2 GPU's on separate PCB's is basically 2 card SLI just in one case , what's your point ?
9800GX2 for example used internal SLI bridge just the same as two separate cards but smaller no difference at all.
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Dual GPU's with 2x PCBs is where the issues arrised, since then single PCBs are used.

No offense but i still trying to figure out what are you talking about wth.gif
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If you were to make a fair(er) comparison make it 4 GTX570's vs 2 GTX590's though this would be only comparing performance , power draw and noise because rest stays the same.
If you look at it this way Quad SLI with 2 GTX590 looks much better doesn't it ?
HUH ?
Care to explain what's the difference here ? ,as far as i can see there is none if it comes to scaling or stuttering.
Dual GPU with 2 GPU's on separate PCB's is basically 2 card SLI just in one case , what's your point ?
9800GX2 for example used internal SLI bridge just the same as two separate cards but smaller no difference at all.
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No offense but i still trying to figure out what are you talking about wth.gif

Jesus IQ's must have dropped around here lol

Internal SLI connections caused latency in communication between GPU 1 > GPU 2, hence why Single PCB designs came to being. This alone improved microstuttering/scaling problems as the communication was over the PCB itself. This is why Quad SLI of the past were inefficient and problomatic. Single PCB's don't cure the issue entirely, but have certainly improved things over the years.

For some unbeknown reason single GPU cards, in TRI SLI/Quad SLI don't experience that same degree of latency even though they use hard bridges to communicate.
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It's impossible to put 3GB on 256-bit bus

It's not impossible, but it's just weird and usually isn't done. There was a card that did it before, but the exact card eludes my memory atm.

Edit: No pun intended

Just a load of marketing.
 
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Jesus IQ's must have dropped around here lol
Internal SLI connections caused latency in communication between GPU 1 > GPU 2, hence why Single PCB designs came to being. This alone improved microstuttering/scaling problems as the communication was over the PCB itself. This is why Quad SLI of the past were inefficient and problomatic. Single PCB's don't cure the issue entirely, but have certainly improved things over the years.

That's good explanation, and its not about IQ, i'm not native english speaker, so its harder for me to understand sometimes....

And its not that you explained at all in the previous posts that (and why) the issues appear more with dual GPU's.
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Jesus IQ's must have dropped around here lol
Internal SLI connections caused latency in communication between GPU 1 > GPU 2, hence why Single PCB designs came to being. This alone improved microstuttering/scaling problems as the communication was over the PCB itself. This is why Quad SLI of the past were inefficient and problomatic. Single PCB's don't cure the issue entirely, but have certainly improved things over the years.

doh.gif
Man I'm losing patience here.........
Poor performance in early quad SLI was due poor driver/application support , it has nothing to do with "internal SLI connections"
Check this for an example so there is no misunderstanding.

http://www.overclock.net/t/684871/9800gx2-vs-9800gtx-sli

You can clearly see that dual PCB single card is nowhere inferior to two separate cards
You had a bad experience with quad SLI and no wonder , SLI with 4 GPU's is not that good idea as it may seem but it has nothing to do with dual or single GPU solutions at al. (at least when it comes to scaling or micro stuttering)

P.S: I know you're grasping at straws but there is no need for passive aggressive comments abut IQ.
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Where's that picture of the fake 690 in this thread? I wanna see! We should get it in the original post...haha jk.

It's interesting they still want to pull off a dual gpu card but that's cool I guess. It'll be interesting to see how the GK110 or 100 performs compared to the dual GPU GK104...hmm
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