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core 2 duo+gt250= 60fps Crysis 2 "High" Settings (aka console settings) @ 720p
Xbox 360/Ps3= 30fps (lots of 24fps there though) Crysis 2 @ 720p
Your argument is completely invalid.

Yeah there's no way a c2d and gts 250 play Crysis 2 at 60FPS locked. You can make things up, just rmember it doesn't make you right.
    
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core 2 duo+gt250= 60fps Crysis 2 "High" Settings (aka console settings) @ 720p
Xbox 360/Ps3= 30fps (lots of 24fps there though) Crysis 2 @ 720p
Your argument is completely invalid.

Yeah there's no way a c2d and gts 250 play Crysis 2 at 60FPS locked. You can make things up, just rmember it doesn't make you right.

You can at 1280x720. Probably not at high settings though. I say medium without any AA at the most.
    
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You can at 1280x720. Probably not at high settings though. I say medium without any AA at the most.

Not sure about Crysis 2, but with two 8800GTS g92s (about 10% slower than a GTS 250) on Crysis 1 I got around 40 fps at 1440x900 in DX9 at just about medium settings (maybe 2x AA at most). I'd estimate that with 1 of those 8800's I would've gotten around 25 fps, and if I lowered the res to 1280x720 I would've gotten around 30-35 fps.
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Sorry if repost but, this seems rumour seems to have originated from a faked/photoshopped photo of a slide.
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The original is from a Gartner blog post of late 2010: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show) I wonder who went to the effort of making this though....

omg, how is this thread still alive doh.gif
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So... if you had the chance to choose. How many cores / threads would you ideally want to program for?
And can you tell me: if the architecture is the same. Do more cores at a lower clock create the same heat as less cores at a higher clock? Would the amount of cores help in the heat problem-part?

6-8 threads would be plenty for just about any game, but chances are the Xbox will reserve a few cores for itself (for the OS, kinect, etc).

I would imagine more cores would generate less heat because they would be less likely to be utilized. But if a 16-core CPU was at full load, compared to a 1-core CPU, I'm not sure which would produce more or less heat. But considering the 360 has 3 cores and 6 threads, I don't see it as unreasonable that the next Xbox has 16 threads at a similar power usage as the 360.

There's also the possibility that it could have 6 or 8 fast, complex cores and the rest being companion cores. Like cores specialized for certain tasks (Eg. Kinect) or something. Not likely though.
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core 2 duo+gt250= 60fps Crysis 2 "High" Settings (aka console settings) @ 720p
Xbox 360/Ps3= 30fps (lots of 24fps there though) Crysis 2 @ 720p
Your argument is completely invalid.

Yeah there's no way a c2d and gts 250 play Crysis 2 at 60FPS locked. You can make things up, just rmember it doesn't make you right.

If I actually wanted to play a Crysis game and had a PSU that had PCIe power connectors on my Server, I'd take you up on that. (9800GTX+ and Core 2 Duo E6700 @ stock)

That said, at 720p a 9800GTX+ is still a fast card. Even a cheap GT450 could play Crysis 2 at 60fps on medium-high at 720p. Either way, a C2D and GTS250 would destroy a console assuming all resolution and settings are equal. Consoles dip below 30fps regularly, while I doubt the PC would be frame-locked to 60fps, it'd not go below 30 unless its a situation designed to make it struggle.
    
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Xbox is gonna be opteron powered! biggrin.gif
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lol and we thought the first gen of xboxes that overheated were bad... i can see this being even worse
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Yeah there's no way a c2d and gts 250 play Crysis 2 at 60FPS locked. You can make things up, just rmember it doesn't make you right.

Yes you can. Now BFBC2 is a different story, but Crysis 2 yes you can.
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Yes you can. Now BFBC2 is a different story, but Crysis 2 yes you can.

Yeah, no you can't. I don't know how many times I have to say this. I own Crysis 2 people. High settings at 1080p 60FPS on gts 250 like the guy claimed originally? No chance. I owned an 8800GT and e6750 at one point and I could barely hold 30 at 14x9 on high settings.

All things being equal the best console games are going to look better then anything an c2d and gts 250 can put out. For example battlefield 3 and Crysis 2 dx11 do look better then the best looking console games but that's only on the higher end settings with lots off AA and high resolution. Crysis at medium high at 720p which is about all a system like that can do is going to look worse then games like Uncharted and Killzone and God of War.
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You can at 1280x720. Probably not at high settings though. I say medium without any AA at the most.
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Yes you can. Now BFBC2 is a different story, but Crysis 2 yes you can.
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Yeah, no you can't. I don't know how many times I have to say this. I own Crysis 2 people. High settings at 1080p 60FPS on gts 250 like the guy claimed originally? No chance. I owned an 8800GT and e6750 at one point and I could barely hold 30 at 14x9 on high settings.
All things being equal the best console games are going to look better then anything an c2d and gts 250 can put out. For example battlefield 3 and Crysis 2 dx11 do look better then the best looking console games but that's only on the higher end settings with lots off AA and high resolution. Crysis at medium high at 720p which is about all a system like that can do is going to look worse then games like Uncharted and Killzone and God of War.
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