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Rather see overkill on the memory.

This.

8GB Please. The ram holds back console games more than anything else.
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Yeah, no you can't. I don't know how many times I have to say this. I own Crysis 2 people. High settings at 1080p 60FPS on gts 250 like the guy claimed originally? No chance. I owned an 8800GT and e6750 at one point and I could barely hold 30 at 14x9 on high settings.
All things being equal the best console games are going to look better then anything an c2d and gts 250 can put out. For example battlefield 3 and Crysis 2 dx11 do look better then the best looking console games but that's only on the higher end settings with lots off AA and high resolution. Crysis at medium high at 720p which is about all a system like that can do is going to look worse then games like Uncharted and Killzone and God of War.

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"the guy" claimed you can run Crysis 2 on high settings on a gts250 + C2D and get 60FPS while running it at 720p, not 1080p.
    
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I guess this console it's gonna be a 36" x 36" cube.
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This.
8GB Please. The ram holds back console games more than anything else.

Even a modest 2gb and make it GDDR5

Doesnt the 350 have like 512mb gddr3?
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Even a modest 2gb and make it GDDR5
Doesnt the 350 have like 512mb gddr3?

I think WorldExclusive was talking about RAM, not vRAM
    
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I think WorldExclusive was talking about RAM, not vRAM

Thought consoles used shared system ram.
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Thought consoles used shared system ram.

They can use either. The 360 has shared RAM and the PS3 uses a split pool. Going off of what developers say a unified memory pool is preferable on a console which makes sense considering the machines serve one purpose.

2 gigs of GDDR5 would be perfect imo for next-gen.
    
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So... if you had the chance to choose. How many cores / threads would you ideally want to program for?
And can you tell me: if the architecture is the same. Do more cores at a lower clock create the same heat as less cores at a higher clock? Would the amount of cores help in the heat problem-part?

6-8 threads would be plenty for just about any game, but chances are the Xbox will reserve a few cores for itself (for the OS, kinect, etc).

I would imagine more cores would generate less heat because they would be less likely to be utilized. But if a 16-core CPU was at full load, compared to a 1-core CPU, I'm not sure which would produce more or less heat. But considering the 360 has 3 cores and 6 threads, I don't see it as unreasonable that the next Xbox has 16 threads at a similar power usage as the 360.

Allright so coming from a developer you say you are pretty pleased with the current cpus of the xbox and ps3 then? Or are their architectures too slow for modern day gaming? From the sound of your reply you rather see them using more ram and better gpu and keep the current cpus.

Are there any other things you would like to see in a console that the current ones do not have? I would like a gigabit lan now and the ability to actually stream and play any type of videofile to make all mediaplayers obsolete. Maybe the possibility to also have access to the android market.

I have to admit I would like to see them use a better gpu than rumoured, but I would first need to see what it can actually produce on my screen. I am already a happy person playing games on my ps3 so with the rumoured specs it would already be able to satisfy my gaming needs. I don't care for 6 screen 12*AA and whatever. Some people moan too much about hardware and have no clue even why.
 
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Allright so coming from a developer you say you are pretty pleased with the current cpus of the xbox and ps3 then? Or are their architectures too slow for modern day gaming? From the sound of your reply you rather see them using more ram and better gpu and keep the current cpus.
Are there any other things you would like to see in a console that the current ones do not have? I would like a gigabit lan now and the ability to actually stream and play any type of videofile to make all mediaplayers obsolete. Maybe the possibility to also have access to the android market.
I have to admit I would like to see them use a better gpu than rumoured, but I would first need to see what it can actually produce on my screen. I am already a happy person playing games on my ps3 so with the rumoured specs it would already be able to satisfy my gaming needs. I don't care for 6 screen 12*AA and whatever. Some people moan too much about hardware and have no clue even why.

Your a console gamer, I presume you don't know what Antialiasing, Ansistropic filering, ambient occlusion, or resolution does to the game that makes it that much better.
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I've figured it out. 4 cpu cores. 12 gpu cores. that would power it right?... right?
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