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why is the 965 worse than the 955?

post #1 of 26
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or at least, harder for overclock.net users to overclock?

ripping my post out of the phenom ii 9x5 club because i'm impatient and this is troubling me
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just plugged 50+ values from 4000MHz+ on both charts to come up with this comparison between the chips
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       Frequency       Vcore           CPU-NB          NB Frequency    NB voltage
955    4083.795918     1.472489796     1.232439024     2485.791667     1.183255814
965    4078.788462     1.491557692     1.267027027     2488.020408     1.162525
why is the 965 worse? what did they change and why do they sell it for more?

EDIT: i'm referring to the fact that more CPU-NB voltage and more Vcore voltage produces lower clocks than less of either on the 955. worst case scenario, if you will
post #2 of 26
You have higher NB clock with the 965.
Also, you can't compare 1 chip of each model and make general assumptions. Some overclock well, other don't. That's about it.
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If only they would put the parts in boxes based on their manufactured quality at the factory and differentiate their names by this and product specifications so I could make those kinds of generalizations with large sample sizes on an overclocking forum
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er..yah..Why is the 960T better than both of those? :thinking.gif:
 
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er..yah..Why is the 960T better than both of those? :thinking.gif:

Cause you have one ? wink.gif
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Overclocking by it's very nature is no guarantee of anything. You can take (100) model 955 CPUs and get (100) different results, some better, some worse and some the same as a 965.
post #7 of 26
There's a lottery involved with the quality of each chip, regardless of model. One specific 955 may be worlds better than a certain 965.

No two components overclock the same. Also consider the variation in environments and testing methodology. One person may consider running Prime for 8 hours stable while another insists on 24 hours. That and different other components such as motherboards/power supplies can alter end results.
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Too many variables to give an accurate picture.
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post #9 of 26
Lucky, my 965 won't even go past 3.76 ghz
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I forgot to mention in my earlier post, but the reason the 965 is a separate product that costs more is the stock speed (3.4Ghz vs 3.2Ghz if I remember correctly). I find it kind of silly when Intel/AMD sell different unlocked CPUs that are essentially the same except for the stock speed and the number on the box. Some people believe the higher model chips have a better chance of being good overclockers but I can't say one way or the other with any certainty.
Edited by tehmaggot - 4/10/12 at 1:55pm
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