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I will be upgrading from a Asus a8v AMD to this P5B-E and had some questions. I have a raid 0 drive now with 400 megs of data, can I just bring those 2 hdd to the new p5B-e w/o having to redo the raid array and w/o losing any data? Also what memory do you suggest between the twinx2048-6400 or 6400c4, I want to do 9x400 with a c2d and 1:1 and was wondering if I can get 4-4-4-12 1t with the regular 6400 or I will need the 6400c4 and also I would put the vDimm to 2.1..... also I know with the amd you can't use 4 ram modules and keep 1t, is Intel the same?
How I should I have to bring the cpu voltage to get 400x9 with the e6400 and besides ram timings and voltage are there any other tweaks in bios I need to mess with to get the best performance out of this new rig (P5B-E). Also I beleive there will be no P5B-E Plus in the U.S so I guess the P5B-E is the best mbd right now for c2d and Raid w/o SLI? Also do people feel the Radeon x1900xt for $260 Saphire is the best bang for the buck video card.... I will be getting the Antec 550 2.0 truepower watt power supply and lian 7a case and keeping my SB Audigy 2zs soundcard till I sell it to buy a x-Fi... Arctic cooler 7 pro cpu fan and 320 Gig Seagate 7200.10 hdds and samsung 18x dvd+rw... Any comments on components is greatly appreciated...Thanks guys and gals...
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Hi, and welcome to the forum. That's a lot of questions

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I have a raid 0 drive now with 400 megs of data, can I just bring those 2 hdd to the new p5B-e w/o having to redo the raid array and w/o losing any data?
As far I know, you'd have the rebuilt the array, and you will loose all data in the process. You might be lucky that the RAID controller picks up the array, but I would not count on it.

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Also what memory do you suggest between the twinx2048-6400 or 6400c4, I want to do 9x400 with a c2d and 1:1 and was wondering if I can get 4-4-4-12 1t with the regular 6400 or I will need the 6400c4 and also I would put the vDimm to 2.1..... also I know with the amd you can't use 4 ram modules and keep 1t, is Intel the same?
First, timings are not *that* important for Intel rigs... they like bandwidth better I would get the 6400C4 if you are keen on the 4-4-4-12 timings; I think you might have a hard time to get the regular 6400 to run at 4-4-4-12. The four RAM modules issue is specifically related to the AMD memory controller, and does not play a role for Intel rigs. Four sticks will add a little pressure to the memory controller, but no real performance hit (maybe marginally)

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How I should I have to bring the cpu voltage to get 400x9 with the e6400 and besides ram timings and voltage are there any other tweaks in bios I need to mess with to get the best performance out of this new rig (P5B-E).
Err..the E6400 has a multi of x8. For 400x9 you'll need an E6600. If you mean 400x8, then it depends a little. You might have to increase a little, but not too much. Check here which settings have been used by several members with the E6400: http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...clock+database 3.2GHz might even be had at stock voltage. Check the settings of others, since you might get more than 3.2 GHz.

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Also I beleive there will be no P5B-E Plus in the U.S so I guess the P5B-E is the best mbd right now for c2d and Raid w/o SLI?
Don't know about the Plus. Otherswise, I agree.

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Also do people feel the Radeon x1900xt for $260 Saphire is the best bang for the buck video card....
Yes I agree it's an excellent card for a good price!

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I am liking it! you're getting yourself a really nice rig

If you hurry, you can pick up a Bog Typhoon for $39.99:
Thermaltake Big Typhoon CL-P0114 120mm Cooling Fan with Heatsink - Retail
    
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Yes I meant the e6600, my bad, as far as the cpu cooler I was going to get the Arctic Cooler 7 Pro, do you think the Big Typhoon is better?
Thanks again for the reply, I will probably wait a week and see if anything decreases in price or anything new comes out. Do you think in Nov when the 8800 cards come out that other cards like the 1900xt will decrease in price? I just hate to buy something and then a week later it goes way down... Welcome to computers I guess. Do you think Corsair is the best for memory now a days as well...Last question about power supplys, I was going to get the Antec true 2.0 550 but then I was reading about OCZ 520 watt because of the 12v rails. Does it make a difference with ANtec that the 12v rails are 18A when Nvidia recommends 22A and if not do you think the Antec 550 true 2.0 is the best for money or can someone suggest another... Thanks a lot...
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The Antec Truepower II has dual 12V rails of 19A each with a total max load of 36A on those rails. The OCZ has a singe rail of 33A. I am not sure if nVidia recommends 22A per rail (which is unlikely, since there just aren't many PSUs with multiple rails that deliver 22A per rail), or in total.

I am not sure how much you're willing to spend on a PSU. The absolute best in the $150 range is the PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610W with a single 12V rail of 49A. For a bit lower budget, $120, the OCZ GameXStream 600W would be my pick. Quad 12V rails of 18A each with a total max load of 44A. Below $100, the Antec TPII 550W is my first choice.

The Bit Typhoon is the better cooler! The Arctic Freezer is a good budget cooler, but the BT will beat it by several degrees.

I do expect a bit of a price drop of nVidia cards right after the 8800 cards come out, possibly followed by ATI. This depends a little in what price ranges the 8800's are set. If they turn out to be expensive, then I don't expect much price drops, expect for current high-end cards (7950GS2, 7900GTX). We'll have to see
    
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Actually, the P5B Deluxe could be a better board then the E, depending on what you want. The Deluxe has 2 PCI-16 slots, they don't run at full speed, but you can enable Crossfire with Catalyst 6.9 drivers from what I have heard. It also has an additional SATA port, but that's usually not a big concern since it's a difference between 6 and 7, usually already too many SATA ports for normal operation.

I can't remember if the E version has the 8phase power VRM and I am about to leave the office so can't check, but if not then you definatly want the Deluxe.

As Chozart said regarding the RAM, timings are less important on Intel so unless you have the money, the standard 6400 modules should work fine for you.

I would not give any advise on voltage as each CPU is different, as is each motherboard. I would simply suggest you make small steps and single changes at a time, raising the voltage only when needed and see where it goes.
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Yes the P5B-E only has 4 phase power but what is difference in 8 and 4?
Dont need SLI...
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8 phase is just more stable, esp. when you overlock that thing a lot
    
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Yeah, looks like I am not leaving the office until later, love the organization of my workplace LOL, so I just went and checked, the E is just a P5B with some additional options. So 4 phase only.

In addition to smoother power delivery, 8 phase is also rumored to be required to support the Quad-core CPUs due out first part of next year. So it would be a future proofing move as well as providing a possible more stable overclock.


And not many people need SLI or Crossfire, I need to try FEAR on my 42" to test my single card set-up, but my system had no trouble running BF2142 at maximum settings at 1280x1024, no lag, no skips. I merely mentioned it as it is a difference.
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A powerful single card is enough for 1280 x 1024. Even at my resolution of 1600 x 1200 my Crossfire set up is overkill for many games (only a few, like Oblivion, give my cards a real workout).

Here is what Anandtech has to say about Kentsfield:
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2848&p=1

According to them, most P5B versions will support Kentsfield; some with already available BIOS-es while others need a BIOS that has not been released yet.

Note: be careful with the Gigabyte boards: according to Anandtech, only second revisions of the Gigabyte boards will support Kentsfield.
    
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A powerful single card is enough for 1280 x 1024. Even at my resolution of 1600 x 1200 my Crossfire set up is overkill for many games (only a few, like Oblivion, give my cards a real workout).
hey, I wanted to test 1600x1200, but the game wouldn't let me LOL

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Here is what Anandtech has to say about Kentsfield:
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2848&p=1

According to them, most P5B versions will support Kentsfield; some with already available BIOS-es while others need a BIOS that has not been released yet.
Interesting, but not suprising. It was also rumored that Core 2 Duo CPUs required 8phase power but that turned out wrong too.
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