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ITT: Semantics.

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Apple is of course going to try and minimize PR damage, but it's hardly like them to do what you said.

Damage control would be effectively fixing the hole when it was first discovered and assuring their user base they are actually taking steps to ensure their OS is secure, not attempting to minimize news and obscure the truth...
 
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Cuz OSX is super special and perfect, like their beautiful Apple logo... Or so the Windows noobs would try and have you believe.
The only ones trying to claim that OSX users think the OS is impenetrable, is people who don't actually use OSX. AKA, OCN trolls.

Apple's own commercials would have you believe that OSX isn't susceptible to attack. You can't really believe that no OSX user thinks their Mac is safe.
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ITT: Semantics.

Let's call the Nimda virus a piece of spyware and claim it's just semantics... There are huge differences between a virus and a piece of spyware. A virus doesn't care if you have a firewall or anti-virus already installed and it most definitely will not ask your permission to install itself...
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Security experts have long warned that this delay in delivering Java patches on Mac OS could be used by malware writers to their advantage, and the new Flashback.K malware confirms that they were right.

After being dropped and executed on the system via the CVE-2012-0507 exploit, the new Trojan horse prompts a dialog window that asks the user for their administrative password.

Regardless of whether the user inputs the password or not, the malware still infects the system, F-Secure said in its description of the malware. The Trojan’s purpose is to inject itself into the Safari process and modify the contents of certain Web pages.

There are rumors that a new exploit for a different unpatched Java vulnerability is currently being sold on the underground market and could be used to target Mac users in a similar way in the future, the F-Secure researchers said.

“If you haven’t already disabled your Java client, please do so before this thing really become an outbreak,” they said. The antivirus company provides instructions on how to do this.

Apple stopped including Java by default in Mac OS X starting with version 10.7 (Lion). However, if Lion users encounter a Web page that requires Java, they are prompted to download and install the runtime and might later forget that they have it on their computers.

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And i was asking people to stop and some admin to close this thread !_!
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The fact that there's a small piece of spyware for Mac that gets headlines once in a blue moon is what matters to the public. If we were going to make a thread for all the new viruses for Windows, each and every day, you'd never be able to keep up with them. You don't even need to write about the thousands of other types of malware for Windows. There's a huge difference between a virus and a piece of spyware.

Your definitely right. There is a difference and Apple has every right to claim a more secure OS because lets face it there are less issues. But at the same time they should be under the microscope for things like this. This was patched what 6 weeks ago by windows, and because apple takes care of the patching themselves it has still not been fixed. When you make security one of your selling points in commercials to millions how you handle security is a big part of that and I personally feel apple dropped the ball on this huge. It makes it look like they have the whole we don't care mentality and well fix it as it comes.

This little spyware could have easily been a virus that steals credit card info and right now i wouldn't have faith in apple to handle it properly if they are 6 weeks behind in fixing other issues.
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Apple's own commercials would have you believe that OSX isn't susceptible to attack. You can't really believe that no OSX user thinks their Mac is safe.

As a generalization, they aren't. There's certainly random vulnerabilities every once in a blue moon like with the rest of the *nix flavors but for the most part, they hardly ever get infected. That is in contrast to the minutes it takes to be overwhelmed by malware on a Windows machine hooked up to the internet without any third party protection slowing down the machine.

They're far less susceptible but not immune. As with *nix servers, someone finds a vulnerability in a third party app such as Apache or whatnot and initiates a buffer overflow which lets them execute arbitrary code. Then it gets patched and someone finds another way of doing it. But you certainly won't find someone uploading an infected binary to the machine and having it spread among the other servers in the datacenter and branch out to millions of other machines over the world like what frequently happens with Windows boxes.
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The only secure os is linux, period. Osx may be slightly better than windows or just protected by obscurity, but the only one that doesnt consistently get hacked when tested (ie pwn2own) is
Linux.
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The only secure os is linux, period. Osx may be slightly better than windows or just protected by obscurity, but the only one that doesnt consistently get hacked when tested (ie pwn2own) is
Linux.

So now you're arguing Linux vs Unix?
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ITT: Semantics.

Let's call the Nimda virus a piece of spyware and claim it's just semantics... There are huge differences between a virus and a piece of spyware. A virus doesn't care if you have a firewall or anti-virus already installed and it most definitely will not ask your permission to install itself...


I would say it's false that a virus does not care if you have anti-virus already installed. The name "anti-virus" implies that it works against viruses, meaning that it can stop a virus. Thus, a virus cares if you have anti-virus installed, because it can get blocked. That's the whole point of anti-virus, isn't it?

Just because a virus has been blocked by certain forms of anti-virus, doesn't make it not a virus anymore.
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