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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
This is a log about a project i have been thinking about since December 2011

I have always wanted to try a watercooling build and my sponsor at Phobya twisted my arm when he agreed to help out with a few small bits a pieces

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Anyway, the original plan was to use the endless 690-2 Coolermaster Chassis i had around the place from previous builds

I also wanted to incorperate the Bitfenix Fans that i won (review is on here: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18301235&page=6) so i chose a 140mm size radiator - a Phobya G-changer 420mm rad

Anyway, i really wanted to do this properly as i have always had reservations about electronics and liquids and really did NOT want this to be an unplanned exploration tongue.gif

So since December ive been hoovering up all the credible information on the net and been in talks with a few people on the interwebs

I'd like to thank the people that helped me with this project - with advice, inspiration, etc: Cleeecooo, KiiYzOo and hughythomas

The first thing i would like to do is add a screenie of what i am *hoping* to achieve

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Intro:

The Project started out as a Coolermaster 692 lite that i was going to use with an external radiator

I would dremel out the centre of the roof and sit the rad ontop

I mocked up the design in Autocad to work out dimesnsions etc.

A screenshot can be seen below:

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Then, one day, someone offered me a TJ07 and 480mm rad for a minimal amount of money as they were in poor condition and would need alot of time and effort to restore them

So i thought to myself: "Why not?"

The 692 build would have look silly, and childish imho - the TJ07 has a real classy look and ive always wanted to try a Silverstone case as everyone always goes on about them tongue.gif

Anyway, i set about designing this new build on Google Sketchup as there is a repository of components online that are REALLY useful!

BTW, Google Sketchup has NOTHING on Autocad, not even Sketchup PRO wink.giftongue.gifwink.gif




Naming:

With this build i want to build upon the black/blue theme that i was doing with my "Home" computer - so this will be black and blue too

A friend of mine, when asked for a naming suggestion for a black and blue build, said: "Project: Bruises" tongue.gif

But i thought that lacked a certain sofistication the TJ07 demanded so i chose: "Project: Indigo"



Whilst away from home (im only home for April), i was ordering and test fitting every item i thought i would require

So there are a jumble on images of me when i was doing testing with sleeving/paracord colours, flushing rads, takinig pics of fittings, etc

And after all the prep work, of which i have a two page word document laying it all out, i will get to the actual build pics

BTW, the stage i am at right now can be seen on the screenshhot below.

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I will be adding photos as i go, i have ALOT to share with you guys
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post #2 of 14
Thread Starter 
The fiirst thiing to arrive were the fittings

I ordered a selection as ii diidnt really know what id be neediing

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Really beautifully made these are. I also have some Bitspower fittings (too small for this tubing) and the manufacturing quality is very similar

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A few extension pieces just in case i need them smile.gif



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testing out my new light tent tongue.gif

(and getting used to my new mechanical keyboard tongue.gif )

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A box from the gods has fallen upon to me biggrin.gif



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Sneak peak biggrin.gif



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SO heavy - really good build quality with these blocks biggrin.gif



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more bits and pieces lying around (PTFE tape FTW biggrin.gif)



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This is a series of images for when i was measuring up for the 692 build - dont worry - the TJ07 makes its appearance below wink.gif



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Flushing the 420mm rad in the flat (im using the 480mm in the actual build)



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Zoom you to present day - and this was yesterday!



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This is the flushing rig i have set up:

res -> pump -> component -> filter

This is a pond/aquarium/water filter pump that i was some vid on youtube of a guy flushing like this and i like this as i can leave it and go and work for a bit and come back and it will be clean
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more bits and pieces lying around (PTFE tape FTW biggrin.gif)



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I KNOW this looks rubbish, it was the best i could do to make it look acceptable



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The case has had a few previous owners and i am trying to source some brand new pieces to fix her up properly



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I am using the shop camera which is rubbish and the flash makes it look horrid - but the case is well cleaned and polished biggrin.gif



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The situation with the TJ07 is that it has had a few previous owners, in general it is in good condition, just needs a bit of a clean and polish

The problem is the motherboard tray: a previous owner has pretty much ruiinied iit and i need to try to finid a replacement mobo tray

I will try to fix up the old girl as best i can as i want this project to looks awesome

anyway - ill post images later of spraying the gentle typhoons

(and this keyboard is really annoying!)
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
This is a series of images of me preparing fans for spraying, reassembling fans, and other bits and pieces

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This is the important bit about Gentle Typhoons:

You know that small black clip that holds the shaft in?

The one that gets all twisted (and lost tongue.gif) when you try to disassemble the fan?

Circlip External E D1500 4.5mm Shaft Pk100 Stainless

I found the correct size replacement circlip, it isnt a 100% match, but with a SMALL crimp with some pliers - it works beautifully!

(when i say SMALL, you need to push the ends together so slightly that if you can see the clip deforming - youve over done it and it wont go onto the shaft)
post #4 of 14
Nice job with the fans Greecean.

I'd like to know where you purchased the Circlips.

Thanks
post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by (sic) View Post

I'd like to know where you purchased the Circlips.

i dont know if naming is against forum rules, so:

paste "Circlip External E D1500 4.5mm Shaft Pk100 Stainless" into google and you will find it on one of the top links tongue.gif
post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
Right then,

I have a TONNE of images that all need resizing and uploading for you, but i thought i'd leave these here as a little teaser tongue.gif

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Everything was done at stock just to check temps and that it was still working properly, ill overclock later biggrin.gif
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
These are the pics taken after the preparation (flushing, fan spraying, etc)

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test fitting the stuff before making it permanent in the case smile.gif
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The TJ07 power, reset, led stuff - i only connected the power button as that all i need (mobo has power,

reset, etc buttons on it)
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Just testing the flans to see if they survived their spraying and werent hitting the rad or anything
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I know the fittings are all different, but this area is hidden so i went for cheaper fittings smile.gif
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This is the pump mounted in its anti-vibration housing tongue.gif
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That blue block you see is a little foam that i sprayed blue so that the rad would sit properly in the

lower compartment and it also reduces vibrations biggrin.gif
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The old rig to strip down, clean, and fit blocks to smile.gif
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The 6970 2gb that will be fitted with waterblock
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I was shocked when removing this cooler - it is only attached with 4 screws around the GPU!
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You can see that only 4 out of the 8 ram chips had ANY contact with the cooler! mad.gif
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I think ive worked out that this is a VTX3D 1gb generic cooler that only screws around the gpu so that it

can fit multiple cards and only cools 4 vram chips (i.e. 1gb version of this card)
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well, you can really see where budget cards cut back on - good thing all this is being replaced with a

waterblock! biggrin.gif
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Alphacool waterblock fitted - and what a handsome beast! biggrin.gif
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I was dissapointed with the fact that the "backplate" doesnt cover the whole card:confused: - the point was

to cover up the red pcb tongue.gif
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anyway - now need to strip the rest of the components
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I really love these msi mobos - the colour scheme, system stability and features are just incredible for

the price biggrin.gif
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you really notice how much the d-14 hides when you take it off tongue.gif
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The EK Supreme HF waterblock mounted
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Considering that EK is meant to be a market leader, i was pretty shocked with the quality of the machining

withing the block - it is very rough frown.gif
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Test fit when put into the case smile.gif
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I just love the way waterblocks look biggrin.gif
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I think the colours go quite well together biggrin.gif
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Mounting the hardware in the case - starting to get butterflys biggrin.gif
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OMG - is this really going to happen? my own watercooled rig? *weep*
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at first i thought this bend was too tight but upon further testing - its fine smile.gif
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a small overfill of the res - but my heart stopped when i saw the fluid dripping into the system

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I rocked the back on its back side to remove all the air from the cpu area
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start of leak testing *heart racing*
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got bored of sitting there so tried to take some artsy shots
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Leak testing went for 12 hours before i was confident that there wasnt going to be any leaks
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never noticed that switch before...
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These guys make some great accessories for this case smile.gif
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Leak testing a bit more with one fan on to stop the pump over-heating tongue.gif
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I was a little dissapointed with the mayhems as it looked like a dark blue online... and in real life it is

more like a violet
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That is how the rig currently stands at the moment

I still need to do:
- LED light strip (thanks Tealc for your advice)
- fit perspex on doors
- work out how to cable manage all this mess (no cable routing TJ07!?)

and i am really annoyed at a competitor - i ordered a tj07 acrylic door panel (ocuk dont stock frown.gif ) and

that was on easter weekend and they STILL have not delivered!!! i cant believe i actually paid for 3-5

working day delivery!!! mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif

In other news: i am SO happy with the rig as it is:
- the colours work really well
- the temps (24 idle, 33 load)
- so quiet as i have the AP-15's at ~9V and the PWM fans at min speed
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When the other stuff is done, ill be back with some good pics (not with the shop camera tongue.gif)
post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 
I have a nice update for you today.

I must say a MASSIVE thank you to Annie Leung of Kingston Technology who has provided some Hyper X SSD's biggrin.gif

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So, lets have a look at them then!

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The first thing that is evident is the superb presentation - they are card boxes with nice vivid print and a really solid feel

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When you open the box you are immediately greeted by a very handsome brushed aluminium drive - it really is fantastically crafted!

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Even the foam padding the drive sits in is cut with the HyperX logo, Kingston have made this feel like a really premium product - and it is!

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This SSD is the "Bundle" version and includes: Blue Sata cable, CD, Screwdriver Pen and a 2.5" Usb 2 Enclosure with the same brushed aluminium feel
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The Enclosure is very simple to use, simply flip the slider to "unlock", slide off the back of the housing, slide in your HyperX ssd, and close it all back up biggrin.gif
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A little peak into the enclosure
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The Pen Screwdriver really is a cute novelty, it is a metal Kingston-branded "pen" that houses three screwdriver bits which hold in the end of the pen
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You know that black foam i was telling you about earlier? well they have cleverly housed the 3.5" adapter in there too!
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The drive feels very well built - almost tank-like which is poles apart from the OCZ Vertex's
that these are replacing in this project (and are both currently in RMA rolleyes.gif)
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The 3.5" adapter is also made of anodized aluminium and really fits in well with the theme of the drive
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Pros:
- Really well built
- very useful accessories
- Fantastic warranty
- good customer service
- backed by a quality brand


The only "con" i can think of at the moment is only very insignificant and really has nothing to do with the actual drive: considering the drive is well over 500MBps in both read and writes, i think a USB 3.0 enclosure should have been bundled rather than a USB 2.0 one

One point that came up with these Kingston HyperX SSD's is what is the difference with the normal one and the 3K version? Well, from what i understand, the "normal" HyperX uses cells that can be rewritten 5,000 times, where as the 3K version uses cells that can be rewritten 3,000 times.
Before you think that the 3K version is worse, the performance of the drive is exactly the same; the only significance the 3000 cycles has is that it reduces the drives life from about 11 years to about 8 years - so really the point is moot. I think it is good that they have released an updated version at a lower cost with the same incredible performance biggrin.gif

As someone who has used OCZ, Crucial and now Kingston drives, I can really see the difference in how Kingston excels in: Packaging, Bundled Accessories, Warranty, After-sales Care and firmware updates - a truly premium product!

I have been asked by Annie to post up some shots of the SSD in the computer, and i want to ask you guys where you think the best place to mount it is biggrin.gif
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
This is a few pics of some other cool bits a pieces that ive been doing with my time lately (project related)

1) Variable LED Lighting Strip

I wanted lighting in the case but i wanted it so that i could turn it up and down depending on what im doing:

gaming - bright
late night - down
movie - off

I dont really like getting software to do my stuff as i regularly reinstall windows and would rather get it done in the bios or some hardware way

Anyway, i wondered if i could connect up the LED strip to one of the spare ports on my fan controller...

i got a generic strip of LED's (similar to those used in Project: Othello) and solder a spare fan cable to it which i could then connect to the fan controller and vary the voltage.

So i went on me merry way and these are some of the pics of when i was putting it all together...


These first two are pics of the damage on the LED strip when they arrived mad.gif
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Me stripping with my stripping tool (you have such a dirty mind eek.gif)
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I just twisted the ends together to see if it actually worked, then i would make it more permenant
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I kept the RPM fan cable for another little project that i may show you at a later date
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This is it all heatshrunk and sleeved and ready to go into the case!
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post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
Ok then - Where shall i begin?



The story goes that i was never really happy with the build as it was:

1) I felt that the case was in too poor condition that I could affordibly renovate it,

2) The colour of the coolant was too different from the internet image for me to agree that it matched the rest of the rig - it was just too purple...

3) the temps at load went up over 10 degrees whilst i was away at uni (ive got some updated for Project: Othello too biggrin.gif)



So, i wanted to strip down and rebuild the machine to work out what was the cause of my temperature increase and also so that i could change the fluid.

Whilst i was there i thought i'd swap out the 6970 for the 580 i bought second hand at easter. I also had recently changed the motherboard in Project: Othello and the z68 board was free for me to use.

Then i decided: what if i completely changed case?

I thought long and hard about it but the fact was the TJ07 was going to bankrupt me if i was going to restore it to the condition i wanted it in.

I was looking at the switch 810 but i really dont like how the inside looks, those silly flappy handles on the hdd bays etc - NO.

Anyway, I found a seller who was getting rid of a 580 and an 800d and bought them off him.

Some may say that the TJ07 is a "better" case than the 800d, but from my experiences, i'd pick Corsair over Silverstone any day!

So the plan was to change the following parts:

2gb 6970 -> 1.5gb 580
p67-gd65 -> z68-gd65
Tj07 -> 800d

I bought the 800d with the full intention of dremelling out the top and sticking my RX480 up there with my bank of AP15's smile.gif

So first i had to take apart the current build:

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The new case came, i stripped her down and cleaned each part. There are only some very minor problems (torn dust filter, broken tooless plastic bit, etc)

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I took my 480 grill and measured and re-measured before using my dremel with carbon fibre cutting discs, then screwed in the rad:

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I taped up the edge after sanding so it doesnt scratch the grill/rad

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Im very happy with how the grill looks.

WARNING: i had to cut my roof further towards the IO Shield sude becuase there wasnt enough space for the endtank and the front panel connectors - do NOT assume that you can just use the 360 holes and enlarge by 120!

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This is the first of my little experiments - I wanted to use my EK Spin Res but i didnt want to ruin the look of my front panel and also didnt want to dremel out the ODD metal bits in the case - so i mounted it backwards

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This means you can still see the water level and flow indicator if you look through the side panel window, but it doesnt spoil the front of the case

Unfortunately, this didnt work as:
1) it would be very awkward to fill it
2) it blocked the rad fan
3) the fitting was too flose to the rad fan and could touch
4) you need to leave the idd bay under clear for the fittings to go back out
etc etc

So, regretably, the Spin Res had to go.

You'll see what i replaced it with later...




Anyway, onto the next thing - i wanted to use my black akasa apaches but the 800d only had mounts for 140mm fans and mine were 120mm

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So, i whipped out my new "small drill", as my father calls it; inserted a 4.5mm metal drillbit and got to work

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I have plans to put the apaches as inlets to feed the bank of AP15's

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Next thing...

The next image may distress some of you, but dont worry, it all came out alright...

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Wire cutters were used to snip out a small hole from the back of the 800d, next to where the IO shield goes

Sanded all the sharp bits down...

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I am VERY proud of this bit, i think it looks fantastic biggrin.gif




Right then...

Ive mouted some bits and pieces and am doing test fits as i was not sure where i wanted my pump/res

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This is what ive replaced my EK Spin Res with:

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It is an XSPC Acrylic res for the D5. I was always envious of the DDC-Res-Tops and i wanted one for my D5 too tongue.gif
The problem is that the pump outlet is only 20mm from the bottom of the GPU block and i searched high and low of trying to make this work:




Option 1:

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Try to directly connect the Pump outlet to the GPU inlet with Male-Male fittings. The problems with this were:
1) extra weight on the gfx card
2) pump-> gpu vibration
3) cause problems with the case door
4) looks a bit wierd
5) hard to expland later for sli




Option 2:

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Use extenders/Sli-bridge to get the fittings over the top.

Problems:
1) It had to go to the further right port due to the cpu inlet and they would conflict
2) pump-> gpu vibration
3) cause problems with the case door
4) hard to expland later for sli





Option 3:
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Use a loop to go over the top, uses the least fittings which is cheapest and less likely to leak.

Problems:
1) looks ridiculous...
2) looks ridiculous...
looks ridiculous...looks ridiculous...looks ridiculous...
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Also, one evening i took apart the 580 and put on the waterblock:

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This block is OLD, had to use cheap thermal paste to hold the standoffs on tongue.gif

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What do you guys thing of mounting the HyperX here?:
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Tomorrow i need to:
1) do the tubing
2) leak test
3) make a decision where i want to mount my HyperX

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