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Nvidia has very little availability, the 7970 is not too compelling for the price, I think it will be fall before I buy another graphics card.
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post #42 of 84
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Originally Posted by Kand View Post

Wasn't this always the case with Radeons?
Skew early benchmark results just to get that crown. rolleyes.gif

Only this didn't improve performance, the "FIXED" driver gives the same frames:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/image-quality-driver-optimization-graphics,3173-7.html
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This is why I don't buy from a company that is having trouble making a profit. They take shortcuts. Then fix it but give you less performance then advertised.... Nvidia has only sold me good working parts that only get better with drivers.
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post #44 of 84
Drop the prices AMD. Cause I'm getting tempted getting a 7870 and I want a nVidia (not a fanboy just had ati over the past 3 years)
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This is why I don't buy from a company that is having trouble making a profit. They take shortcuts. Then fix it but give you less performance then advertised.... Nvidia has only sold me good working parts that only get better with drivers.

How about you read the article before jumping to conclusions?
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"For our Southern Island product family launch we picked a set of settings that we tested in several scenarios for image quality and found that those specific settings were providing the best overall quality. When you pointed out these issues in some games around texture quality, we went back and found one specific setting that was causing the described texture blurriness. This has now been removed and the quality of textures should be as intended, with performance unchanged. These settings will be adjusted accordingly in the 12.4 April Catalyst release, later this month."
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Based on our original findings, it wasn’t a stretch to question if AMD had decided to try an old trick with the 7000 series, giving up hard-to-notice texture detail for a couple of frames per second in some games. We’re glad that AMD responded, clarified the situation, and provided proof in a fixed pre-release driver, plus a commitment to include that resolution in the upcoming Catalyst 12.4 WHQL driver. The driver it sent us for testing suggests that the issue can be solved without sacrificing performance.
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This is the way of AMD. It's not new they pull this every n_v release. goog;e is your friend. As their stock drops even lower.
ftc said in oct if they fall to $2.USD a share they will be de-listed, and put on the penny exchange.
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post #47 of 84
So no AMD price drops?
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post #48 of 84
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Originally Posted by Acroma View Post

This is why I don't buy from a company that is having trouble making a profit. They take shortcuts. Then fix it but give you less performance then advertised.... Nvidia has only sold me good working parts that only get better with drivers.

Translation: I have baseless bias against AMD.

No, AMD doesn't have the best driver team in the world. But for every AMD user that has an issue, there's a Nvidia user with an issue as well (probably more given the larger market share).

One minor issue (lower texture quality that can only be noticed with substantial zoom in) and less than 1 fps difference on average) and somehow they're sloppy and incompetent. The performance difference is well within the margin of error anyways, but if you had actually read the article instead of letting your Nvidia heads-up display popping up out of context graphs, you might know that. You clearly got suckered in by the sensationalism in the title.

But hey, next time Nvidia screws up, you'll just say "meh, no biggie." How do you feel about Nvidia's reference boards? There's quite a few users around here that refuse to buy Nvidia reference cards because they tend to cut corners, like with the GTX 570. Those same users would be ok with an AMD reference board, because AMD tends to provide plenty of VRM headroom.

Both companies have their ups and downs. Educate yourself and cut the bias out of it. If you've had a good experience with Nvidia and a poor one with AMD, that's understandable, but know that Nvidia cuts corners as well.
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post #49 of 84
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Originally Posted by Z Overlord View Post

So will AMD be reducing GPU prices soon then? Not because of this (fixed) issue but supposedly they'd do it when the Nvidia cards come out

The key word here is "cards". So far, Nvidia has only released one card, and it's out of stock pretty much everywhere. Nvidia is going to have to fill the channel before AMD will feel any pressure to cut prices.

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Originally Posted by DrFPS View Post

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This is the way of AMD. It's not new they pull this every n_v release. goog;e is your friend. As their stock drops even lower.
ftc said in oct if they fall to $2.USD a share they will be de-listed, and put on the penny exchange.

Two things to note here:

1) AMD hasn't traded below $2 a share since the market crashed in late 2008.

2) The FTC doesn't determine whether a particular stock is delisted. That decision is up to the exchange. AMD is traded on the NYSE, so the NYSE is the only entity that can delist AMD. I can't find any press coverage of any NYSE threat to delist AMD; please provide a link. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Riou View Post

You obviously have not been following the GPU scene as long as other people.
Google is your friend. Become an investigative journalist just like THG. wink.gif

I feel a tinge of sarcasm in your post therefore I won't follow your advice! No pics not true! biggrin.gif
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