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What are you g oing on about. 40% is 40%. Do you think investors care on way or another? What point are you even trying to make. It's already been explained to you numerous times that 40% stock growth in three months regardless of how it's happened is exceptional.
I don't understand why you are trying to downplay this. All you've proved is that AMD had a really good last six months despite the release of an awful CPU and a 'pretty good' GPU.

If you fail to grasp the point, I can't help you. Can't explain it any other way.
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If you fail to grasp the point, I can't help you. Can't explain it any other way.

I see the point you are trying to make. I don't think you are proving what you are setting out to do though. Compared to a year ago things are actually pretty rosy I imagine in the AMD board room.
    
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And yet we still have to disable Tessellation for 3DMark11 on HWBOT because AMD cards intentionally gimp their rendering of the only real DX11 feature because their hardware can't handle it. rolleyes.gif
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And yet we still have to disable Tessellation for 3DMark11 on HWBOT because AMD cards intentionally gimp their rendering of the only real DX11 feature because their hardware can't handle it. rolleyes.gif



The tesselation slider in the drivers is for gamers with lesser cards and 3dmark scores page shows if someone has changed it from application controlled (Same place where it says if you are running unapproved drivers). AMD didn't gimp anything unless you consider Nvidia having sliders for AA and AF "gimping" them. Thankfully AMD made major changes to tesselation from the 6 to 7 series and they are now basically on par with Nvidia anyway (or within 10%).

Maybe you just don't know what your talking about.
    
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*Ding* Popcorn in hand.
    
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I see the point you are trying to make. I don't think you are proving what you are setting out to do though. Compared to a year ago things are actually pretty rosy I imagine in the AMD board room.

Though it may seem like I'm knocking on AMD, I'm not, was just trying to put those percentage numbers in perspective, and thus the extreme Google Stock example. A $9 gain for a Google is a mere 1% gain, while that same $9 gain for AMD would be 200%+. So keep that in mind when comparing percentages between companies.

I've gotten a few people to hold off on buying MacPro or Intel laptops, and to get Llano instead. I'm personally getting a Trinity laptop ( to replace our Turion laptop ), and our 2nd desktop will most likely get the Trinity treatment as well, which is being upgraded from a 3800+. thumb.gif

Now, what was this thread about again?

Oh that's right, pretty much a non-issue.
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The tesselation slider in the drivers is for gamers with lesser cards and 3dmark scores page shows if someone has changed it from application controlled (Same place where it says if you are running unapproved drivers). AMD didn't gimp anything unless you consider Nvidia having sliders for AA and AF "gimping" them. Thankfully AMD made major changes to tesselation from the 6 to 7 series and they are now basically on par with Nvidia anyway (or within 10%).
Maybe you just don't know what your talking about.

Celeras can only see the color green, and only when it's present in the form of a whirl. You won't ever see him say something anything neutral in an AMD GPU thread - it's always an attack on AMD. In Nvidia threads, he promotes Nvidia at the expense of AMD.

Meanwhile, he'll gladly point the fanboy finger, even at moderators.
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Celeras can only see the color green, and only when it's present in the form of a whirl. You won't ever see him say something anything neutral in an AMD GPU thread - it's always an attack on AMD. In Nvidia threads, he promotes Nvidia at the expense of AMD.
Meanwhile, he'll gladly point the fanboy finger, even at moderators.

Well just for the record this is what a 3dmark score with tesselation set to application controlled looks like. I just ran it.

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3174622;jsessionid=12negyoi5padg6wmutxua665u

This is what one looks like with the tesselation messed with.

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2606356

As you can see the top of the page reads.

Benchmark tessellation load modified by AMD Catalyst driver, result invalid. Check your video driver settings.

And on my score there is nothing. So yeah just kind of tired about hearing about the tesselation thing considering it's complete BS.
    
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Well just for the record this is what a 3dmark score with tesselation set to application controlled looks like. I just ran it.
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3174622;jsessionid=12negyoi5padg6wmutxua665u
This is what one looks like with the tesselation messed with.
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2606356
As you can see the top of the page reads.
Benchmark tessellation load modified by AMD Catalyst driver, result invalid. Check your video driver settings.
And on my score there is nothing. So yeah just kind of tired about hearing about the tesselation thing considering it's complete BS.

Just because its been fixed, doesn't mean it never happened to begin with thumb.gif It was a problem for a long time.
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Celeras can only see the color green, and only when it's present in the form of a whirl. You won't ever see him say something anything neutral in an AMD thread - it's always an attack on AMD.
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Celeras is literately quoting himself in his sig. That's how big a of fan of synthetic benchmarks and how self absorbed he is.

You nailed me. I hate AMD and I'm in love with synthetic benchmarks. Clearly that's why I use an X6 in my sig rig, for the high bench scores and to avoid AMD. lachen.gif
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