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4/11/12 at 11:35am
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Hi,

Because mitx board form asus is the most promising out there, im probably going to build my rig around it and sugo 08.
So i was wondering what cooler would be the best choice for it.

Here are my ideas:
Noctua NH-C14 - wont fit
Noctua NH-L14 - probably will fit but just
Phanteks PH-TC14CS - best option and seems to barely fit without top fan
Enermax ETD-T60 - dont know if it will fit
Thermalright AXP140 - wont fit
EKL Alpenföhn Gotthard - no info about size

of course hydro coolers will fit also.

Did i miss something ? Also if you can provide any more details about those coolers fitting that board and case i would be grateful. And i know the board isnt out yet so probably all calculations will be based on images of the board (thats how i measure it tongue.gif)
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post #2 of 138
4/11/12 at 12:19pm
Best option would be an AIO watercool dealy. I have H60, fits fine in SG07.

Pretty sure the axp140 does fit, i was under the impression it was the best for sg07 which is the same as sg08
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4/11/12 at 12:50pm
AXP140 does not fit. Check the Beastly mATX/mITX thread.
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Originally Posted by armourcore9brker View Post

There are ways to mount an H60 (70/80 are too thick. frown.gif) to the AP181 fan. They are kind of ghetto-rigging it though.

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I think it is a good distance away from the VRMs. It is still closer to center than other socket placements right next to the PCIe. The AXP-140 uses a 140mm fan (obviously tongue.gif). The full width of a mITX board is 170mm across. It is 145mm long. It was known for the fact that it would not interfere with the PCIe slot by which sockets were placed around...

clearance.jpg

The Asus socket appears to be a little further from the VRMs than the Zotac was from the PCIe. Taking this into account, while also considering that the AXP-140 would go to the edge of the board with the Zotac placement, I would safely assume that it will not fit.
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The Asus socket appears to be a little further from the VRMs than the Zotac was from the PCIe. Taking this into account, while also considering that the AXP-140 would go to the edge of the board with the Zotac placement, I would safely assume that it will not fit.

Even if you rotated the usual orientation 180 degrees? You can also use a 120mm fan with the AXP-140, but I fail to understand why it wouldn't work on on Asus' Z77-I Deluxe if the cooler was rotated 180 degrees seeing as there's even more room to work with.

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Edit: Woah I see what you're saying. The 30mm measurement in the photo you linked is irrelevant, because the there's nothing 28mm high on the board. If you extended past the 30mm shown below, and assumed where the PCIe would be going upwards (lol). How long is that? My guess is NOT 70mm, which is required and that would really suck.

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Edit2: Well my guess is that this line is not 70mm, but if it is, the AXP-140 would fit no problem.
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Edit3: LOL my partner is a physicist/mathematical genius and she figured out (using pixels) that the above red line above is ~60mm. I'm kind of bummed now frown.gif
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On the SG08, there is not much room on the sides of the motherboard. So no turning 90 degrees.

A 120mm fan won't make a difference since the heatsink itself is 140 to accommodate the normal 140 fan.

This is very flaky logic and I didn't feel like spending time in PS with scaling (it's late here tongue.gif).

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Basically I created a 170x170mm square in sketchup and scaled a picture to fit it. I cropped the picture to only be the board. I measured 27.5mm towards the VRM board (based on how it measures up on the Zotac board). Then added the rest to the other side of the dot in this case 112.5mm and that is my result.

Is it definitive? Not really. But it is the closest I can get reasonably without having a board to measure directly.

EDIT: I'd also like to take this time to admit that upon further inspection, I was wrong about the cooler normally hanging off the side of the board.
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On the SG08, there is not much room on the sides of the motherboard. So no turning 90 degrees.
A 120mm fan won't make a difference since the heatsink itself is 140 to accommodate the normal 140 fan.
This is very flaky logic and I didn't feel like spending time in PS with scaling (it's late here tongue.gif).
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Basically I created a 170x170mm square in sketchup and scaled a picture to fit it. I cropped the picture to only be the board. I measured 27.5mm towards the VRM board (based on how it measures up on the Zotac board). Then added the rest to the other side of the dot in this case 112.5mm and that is my result.
Is it definitive? Not really. But it is the closest I can get reasonably without having a board to measure directly.
EDIT: I'd also like to take this time to admit that upon further inspection, I was wrong about the cooler normally hanging off the side of the board.

Yes, I've already admitted defeat lol, but I said 180, not 90 degrees. Regardless, like we both said you'd need 71mm of room below the chip and there's only 60mm (Red line in photo). I am a very sad panda, because I planned on getting all of this into an already packed SG05...
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*insert dramatic music* Nooooooooo! not asrock T___T
Sigh....
hm... we need cpu cooler risers now of some sort biggrin.gif

LOL, I think I'm definitely going with the Archon inside of a Bitfenix Prodigy, coupled with 7 TY-140 fans in total biggrin.gif


We can't really know what will fit since it is not released yet. I actually think any short tower cooler will be fine. They demoed a NH-D14 to fit on it so height is the only issue with most symmetrical coolers.
Edited by armourcore9brker - 4/11/12 at 12:52pm
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post #4 of 138
4/11/12 at 7:21pm
Tower cooler sure, but a lot of us don't have that much room veritcally. After looking at the 3D drawing of the NH-L14, I don't think it will fit. I'm assuming the socket dimension is 50mm, meaning you would need 37mm between the socket and the daughterboard. The Samuel 17 extends 27mm towards the PCIe on my current board, leaving me with 1mm to spare, and it doesn't look like the socket/daughterboard gap gains the extra 10mm that's needed. Either way, it's going to be close. None of the other coolers mentioned work for me, given that I only have 85mm of vertical room. I'd rather buy the BitFenix Prodigy so I can put on a huge Thermalright cooler (Silver Arrow, Archon, or HR-02) than try to make something work in SG07/SG08.

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Edit: After digging a little more, it looks like the NH-L14 will fit in its original orientation. The Archon fits, which has 42.55mm between its fins and base, so the NH-L14, having 43mm from fins to base, should be able to hang over the daughtboard. The only problem with this orientation, is that it'll probably extend to far. Oh and I still don't think there will be enough room in rotated 180 degrees as mentioned above.

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4/11/12 at 8:35pm
Techreport needs to do a review of this board. They're the only ones who actually measure socket distances and everything else.

Then all this speculation can go away and we'll have solid numbers. tongue.gif
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post #6 of 138
4/12/12 at 8:39am
I'm also going for SG08 and the p8z77-i..but most likely I'll be pairing them up with H60 AIO..I wonder if a H80 fits without modifications...
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4/12/12 at 10:56am
I managed to fit an H80 in my little case but I had to use a slim 12.5mm fan.

SG08 fits up to 117mm. Let's assume that is without the AP181 fan in the top.
AP181 is 32mm thick meaning you get 85mm if you decide to keep the top fan.

H80 is 38mm thick and the pump is about the size of 1U hs/fan (29mm).

That leaves about 22mm of space in between the rad and the pump. So barely enough for a slim 12.5mm fan.

Things like the pump is just an estimate so take it with a grain of salt.

There have been people that have gotten an H70 inside of an SG07 so it should be similar.
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4/12/12 at 1:28pm
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Isn't 117mm space for cooler in sg07/08 with AP181 ?
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4/12/12 at 4:41pm
Edit ~ I'm being silly
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4/12/12 at 4:45pm
Huh? It can and we never speculated on that part.

It'd be pretty bad for a company to make a fan mount that doesn't work for the intended audience. tongue.gif
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