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post #51 of 137
6/27/12 at 11:34pm
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Disagree. if your going to do this thread do it properly. You simply cannot buy a gaming notebook with key roll over issues. The supposed best gaming laptop ASUS G75W has this issue. Mainstream reviews don't pickup on this stuff, not saying you identify laptops with this issue but the very least you can mention what it means and how it effects gamers a lot of people use ESDF instead of WASD now
A Notebook that use flat chicklet keys are no good for accuracy as your fingers can slip off them easier or you miss the keys rolleyes.gif

If you're going to try to bash this thread for "not being done properly" then at least use proper spelling and grammar. It's "You're" as in "You Are...", not "Your" or meaning "Possession of something..." and it's "Affect" not "Effect". tongue.gif

No it doesn't affect gamers in the least. It might affect some, but in the long run and for the majority of the people out there, no, it doesn't really make much of a difference when it comes to the keyboards. The user of the laptop will grow accustomed to the feel of the machine. You cannot state that a user will always slip on a key no matter how long they own the machine for. It took me a while to get used to the Toshiba Qosmio I had, but I got it down and it was smooth sailing after a good three months. But that's also because it was my first Gaming Laptop too...so that factored into everything.

If you would like to attempt to aid me with this thread, by all means, but I won't have you attempting to make ME seem like some schmuck who doesn't know his right from his left. I'm pretty sure that the CPU and GPU matter a heck of a lot more, when it comes to price and performance, than how the keyboard feels. Also, the ASUS 'G' Series is exceptionally popular. So... if they're doing it wrong, people really don't seem to care at all.
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6/30/12 at 6:14pm
I'm getting something through Malibal ( $100 + mil discount ), but I'm hearing mixed things about the 7970M. I would love to use the 680M, but +$495 from a base $1300 laptop isn't really cool. sadsmiley.gif

How much do drivers increase performance while gaming? I'm reading that a lot of 7970M owners are having trouble because they don't have any official drivers. I'm wanting to play modern games at 1080p on a 17in, but I know that I can't play much at Ultra with 60FPS+. Is the 680M more future-proof for gaming? If I lag at like 20FPS in a year, I'll cry. cryingsmiley.gif

For around $1700 with those Malibal discounts + shipping
  • 17.3in 1080p FHD Matte (+$30 from Glossy)
  • Intel i7-3610QM @ 2.3GHz (3.3GHz Turbo)
  • 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz
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  • Internal Wireless and Bluetooth (Is this a NEEDED upgrade?)
  • IC Diamond 7 for the CPU+GPU because I'd probably just balls it up (+35)

One more weird question; Would I notice much if I turn down the AA on a 15in more than on a 17in?
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post #53 of 137
7/1/12 at 12:43pm
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people really don't seem to care at all.

thats fine, but im stating that a laptop is much different to a desktop in that your stuck with the choices you make. Sure you can expand on the spec with external peripherals but its important that an expensive laptop feels good to play on and not just to look at.

btw thanks for the grammar lesson redface.gif . i didn't feel like i was thread bashing so my apologies

Re: 7970m the drivers are in a bit of a mess at the moment especially with the enduro switching issue in sure they will get resolved. The Nvidia 680m will be better in this regard but the cost difference is plain daft

BTW there really is very little visual difference beyond properly implemented x4 MSAA and 8 x AF even less so on a tight pixel pitch. you could get away with 2x MSAA id expect
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7/2/12 at 11:37pm
Ok, unless you can show me something better for the same price (I challenge you from canada!) I'm looking at one of these 4, since newegg's product list changed:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006551+50001259+40000032+600004346+600003755+4016&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=32&description=&hisInDesc=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&AdvancedSearch=1&srchInDesc=

So... 1600x900 or 1920x1080 (is the higher res worth it because the lower res laptops are all rated for twice the battery life)? 6GB RAM or 8GB (I think I'd prefer 8 though)? i5 or i7 (is there actually anything that would be slowed down by an i5)?

I wanna make sure I get something that for sure is good and will last because I won't be able to return a laptop if I open it and find out I don't like it.
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post #55 of 137
8/8/12 at 3:43pm
I'll third/ whatever # the motion to make this a sticky. Too much stupid in the laptop forum recently (or perhaps I have a low tolerance), not directed at anybody in particular, so don't take offense to my comment.
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8/8/12 at 4:47pm
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I'll third/ whatever # the motion to make this a sticky. Too much stupid in the laptop forum recently (or perhaps I have a low tolerance), not directed at anybody in particular, so don't take offense to my comment.

I second that.
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8/8/12 at 6:39pm
I agree too, the amount of misinformation and stupid posts being posted are ridiculous, its one thing to have a negative opinion of gaming laptops and have reason, and its another to spew verbal diarrhea with no facts or having done any research at all...
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8/10/12 at 7:58am
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I'll third/ whatever # the motion to make this a sticky. Too much stupid in the laptop forum recently (or perhaps I have a low tolerance), not directed at anybody in particular, so don't take offense to my comment.

Pfft, you? Low tolerance? Hah... that's funny. You've got a steel wall of resistance compared to me. It's partly why I took a break from it. I'd post one thing and BOOM another thread would pop up with the same exact question about the same exact laptop line... >_> being answered by the people who wanted to know why they didn't just build a SFF desktop... etc... etc... (I.E. I got in trouble for a few nasty posts toward new members. XD)
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I second that.

Thanks again! biggrin.gif
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I agree too, the amount of misinformation and stupid posts being posted are ridiculous, its one thing to have a negative opinion of gaming laptops and have reason, and its another to spew verbal diarrhea with no facts or having done any research at all...

Misinformation is rampant at the moment for whatever reason. I've noticed it's a slew of new members too. Most don't even have more than 20 posts total. tongue.gif One even said that AS5 is Electrically Conductive and not to use it... *facepalm*



It means a lot to me as a person to see that I've made SOME progress even with a few members on this site. You three are the only ones I've seen thus far that actually understand what I'm talking about and I hugely appreciate the help. It's tedious but...that's what you get when you come onto OCN. tongue.gif

But as far as this thread goes, I'll be updating it again soon. Just had to wait until the newest stuff was released.
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8/16/12 at 6:13pm
+REP. I still read this thread every time I look at laptops. Been looking at the Asus "G" series but I have not seen one with a 680m. Unless I overlooked it.

How would I know if I can buy a SSD separate and install it into a laptop!? Is this possible and is it just like building a rig or do I have to buy a certain SSD for laptops (i.e. Does a Crucial M4 fit into them) ?
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8/16/12 at 7:52pm
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+REP. I still read this thread every time I look at laptops. Been looking at the Asus "G" series but I have not seen one with a 680m. Unless I overlooked it.
How would I know if I can buy a SSD separate and install it into a laptop!? Is this possible and is it just like building a rig or do I have to buy a certain SSD for laptops (i.e. Does a Crucial M4 fit into them) ?

Simple answer: Any 2.5" SSD will work in a gaming laptop. Exception- maybe not for the Razer Blade, since it's so thin. (maybe the rule should be, if it's 1" or thicker, almost guaranteed it'll take any 2.5" SSD).

Long answer:
For a gaming laptop, they all take standard 2.5" SSD's. But, typical 2.5" SSDs come in 2 thicknesses, 7mm and 9.5mm. Any gaming laptop can take 9.5mm (or 7mm.. but you'd need a spacer so it fits snug). Now, thin laptops like ultraportables typically take 7mm 2.5" SSD's. As one example, Crucial M4 has a removable spacer that can make it go from 9.5mm to 7mm. All Samsung 830's are 7mm thick. Several Intels/other SSDs either come in both thicknesses, or have a removable spacer.

TL;DR: Go for it!
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i3-2310M Intel HD 3000 8GB DDR3 Samsung 830 64GB SSD 
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640GB Hitachi HDD Windows 7 13.3" LCD Magnesium Alloy, 3.2lbs 
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Phenom II X4 955 BE Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-UD2H MSI Hawk R5770 3x2GB G.Skill DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 250 GB WD Caviar Black Samsung 20X DVD-R/RW Thermaltake MaxOrb 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Noctua NF-B9-1600 Windows 7 Pro 64-bit BenQ E2420HD, 24" 1920x1080 TT Purepower 500W 
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TT Lanbox Lite 
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Toshiba Portege R835-P50X
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Lanbox Lite
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CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i3-2310M Intel HD 3000 8GB DDR3 Samsung 830 64GB SSD 
Hard DriveOSMonitorCase
640GB Hitachi HDD Windows 7 13.3" LCD Magnesium Alloy, 3.2lbs 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 955 BE Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-UD2H MSI Hawk R5770 3x2GB G.Skill DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 250 GB WD Caviar Black Samsung 20X DVD-R/RW Thermaltake MaxOrb 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Noctua NF-B9-1600 Windows 7 Pro 64-bit BenQ E2420HD, 24" 1920x1080 TT Purepower 500W 
Case
TT Lanbox Lite 
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