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Vista RTM had poor driver support from Nvidia and Creative. Many cases of BSOD from unstable Nvidia drivers. There was also heavy disk thrashing with its superfetch/readyboost mechanism. The disk light would be constantly on for 3-5 minutes after every login after boot. This was likely the source of the sluggishness that people complained about. Vista RTM with no Service Packs. I experienced many hangs in standby and resume. Network transfer speeds were much slower than XP. Deleting many files and large files took much longer than XP.
I do wonder if people truly used Vista RTM and said they never had any problems.
There are huge bug fixes documented in Vista SP1.

Incidentally, I think ReadyBoost was implicated in some of the odd crashes I used to have (this is like 3 years ago) when I used Vista with ~2 gigs of RAM + a USB stick. Any patches for that? USB drives are so cheap these days that if your laptop isn't expandable you could always just stick on a USB drive.

EDIT: I didn't need to use ReadyBoost after I bumped my dektop up to 4 gigs. smile.gif But it's still a possible option for seriously memory-intensive tasks.
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good. it cant die soon enough
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good. it cant die soon enough

Give me 10 reasons for that statement. Otherwise **** kiddo
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Vista is by far the best OS I have ever used. I have never had a problem with it.
A fee????
Why does MS want to write off this OS so much?

Because 7 is everything Vista should have been and more.

No, 7 is barely above a Service Pack for Vista. Anyone who used Vista after SP1 should know that.
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I don't understand why people hate Vista, 7 is better but Vista was a pretty good os for me. Don't remember it giving me any trouble at all.

Either they used it at launch with buggy drivers (nVidia's were horrible) and hated it ever since, or heard about someones bad experience with Vista on a Pentium III 1Ghz or something.
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I noticed no performance difference coming from Vista x64 SP2 to Windows 7 x64... Anyone complaining is just bandwagoning.

install vista on a lower end machine. watch it struggle. install windows 7 on the same machine and watch it run without a problem. Vista was not a bad OS, it just wasnt finished. Heck, win 7 is just a polished, better version of vista. I do agree with the above statement. WIndows 7 SHOULD have been a Service Pack upgrade, not a full, standalone OS.

Used Vista on a 1.9Ghz Athlon XP single core with 1GB DDR-400 RAM and a 6800GT since Beta. No struggling. Not to mention, Linux is way faster than Windows on anything low-end. There's literally no competition, even from XP.
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Vista is by far the best OS I have ever used. I have never had a problem with it.

Not sure if serious. rolleyes.gif

Vista is complete and utter garbage compared to Win7, but hey whatever floats your boat.

Why? If Vista truly is complete and utter garbage, I'm sure you can come up with 5 legitmate reasons for it being garbage. No, "because I heard it is" doesn't count. Nor does "Because I used it at launch and the drivers were crappy!" and anything that can be traced back to that. 7 was only good because it literally was based off Vista.
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Vista was terrible until the last Service Pack, but look at the size of the OS on your HDD by then... I rather prefer and stick with Win7.

Uh..Unless you slim down Win7 it's the exact same size. And in this day and age of 2TB HDDs being just over $100 ($129 here in Australia) I seriously don't care about the (at most) 5GB extra space.

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Vista RTM had poor driver support from Nvidia and Creative. Many cases of BSOD from unstable Nvidia drivers. There was also heavy disk thrashing with its superfetch/readyboost mechanism. The disk light would be constantly on for 3-5 minutes after every login after boot. This was likely the source of the sluggishness that people complained about. Vista RTM with no Service Packs. I experienced many hangs in standby and resume. Network transfer speeds were much slower than XP. Deleting many files and large files took much longer than XP.

I do wonder if people truly used Vista RTM and said they never had any problems.

There are huge bug fixes documented in Vista SP1.

Yep, drivers were utter crap. As for the disk thrashing...That was only until it already worked out what applications you used regularly and already pre-loaded them. It didn't thrash for me after a week of being installed. Although I had my pagefile on a second HDD to be fair.

Standby and resume hangs are still around, my PC screwed up (Only showing any picture on the second screen and not accepting any input) the other day and my Mothers (Both running updated Win7 x64 Ultimate) randomly just won't boot at all for 5-10 minutes coming out of sleep.
    
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No, 7 is barely above a Service Pack for Vista. Anyone who used Vista after SP1 should know that.

Yep, I'm still using Vista SP2 x64 here, no reason to upgrade at all for me. Even a few months after it's launch Vista wasn't as bad as everyone was saying it was for me, running on an E6420, 8600GT and 2Gigs of RAM. It was a bit slow sometimes, but the only serious problem I ever had were from Nvidia drivers themselves. Only thing that was horribly slow was Alt-tabbing out of game but switching to 4Gigs later fixed that, and SP1 made everything faster. In fact, one of my friend still use my old 2GB kit with 7 and his system is overall less responsive than mine was on Vista.
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It's hilarious to see all of the Vista hate here. Obviously many people never even touched Vista after the first few months. rolleyes.gif

I sure hope this doesn't apply to the SPs. It would be ridiculous if XP, a vastly inferior OS, got a much longer support time than Vista. Hopefully I can score Win8 Server for cheap, or else I will be stuck using an unsupported version of Windows. It's a good thing Win8 Server is so good though, or I wouldn't be considering upgrading at all.
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Never had a single issue with Vista. People generally overblew all of their complaints, or simply complained for the sake of doing so (usually because someone told them Vista was bad, when they hadn't tried it themselves).
Not a big issue though, it's not like anyone should be on Vista anymore considering Win 7 is basically the exact same thing.

This, vista wasn't hitler.
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People on vista shouldn't be worried. Pretty sure support isn't going anywhere for the SP's and all versions still get the security updates, which is all that really matters anyway.

I still have Vista on an older lappy. It runs fine since SP1 and more than fine after SP2. The vast majority of Vista hate is bandwagon hate, period. The rest is those that haven't tried it since RTM+a few months.
Edited by Strat79 - 4/15/12 at 12:29pm
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The only thing i noticed with Vista x64 vs 7 x64, Is that Vista took forever to start up, Even with an SSD, the rest however well... Let's face it They are identical except for that.
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