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4/11/12 at 2:51pm
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I have never considered watercooling until recently. I live in an extremely hot and arid area of Arizona. Summer temps of 115f to 120f are not unusual. Tired of extermely high electric bills due to air conditioning just to keep ambient temps down. I want to replace my nochtua DH 14 with a water cooled system. Can I get some advice, and remember I am water cooler stupid so go slow. CPU for now with GPU expansion later. would like to keep the price between $200 -$300
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ASUS CHV Formula 990FX temp @33c
AMD FX 8150 4.6ghz very close to stable idle @ 38c -43c load @57c + vcore 1.420
Noctua DH 14
Saphire HD7950 OC edition 1075/1300 idle @ 38c load highest @ 77 1.175v
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Three 200mm case fans
3 Crucial 128 in RAID0

Thanks for any suggestions
Edited by Roadking - 4/11/12 at 2:58pm
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4/11/12 at 2:55pm
if ambients are so high, it might be better to go with a water chiller
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4/11/12 at 2:56pm
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If anything, watercooling will not lower your electricity bill, but might make it go up. Watercooling is very efficient at taking heat and transferring it into your computer room. Maybe if you brought your cooling solution in the basement or below ground so that the hot air is not exhausted into an area that is cooled by your A/C?
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4/11/12 at 3:02pm
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If anything, watercooling will not lower your electricity bill, but might make it go up. Watercooling is very efficient at taking heat and transferring it into your computer room. Maybe if you brought your cooling solution in the basement or below ground so that the hot air is not exhausted into an area that is cooled by your A/C?

QFT^^^

only thing i can think you of doing is to dig your backyard up and bury a bunch of pipe +6ft deep or if possible move the rad to another room so you wont be uncomfortable. thumb.gif


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I am planning on trying to use geothermal cooling for my CPU. I have compiled a list of other's threads on this:

"Simple": (what I plan to do): http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...d.php?t=135691

"Simple #2": http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ghlight=trench

"Simple #3": http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...d.php?t=800958

"The Hole": http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=207565

"The Bomb": http://www.dwpg.com/content.php?cont...77&orgartid=57


Here are some other helpful links for this project:


Bending Tubing: http://www.overclock.net/case-mod-wo...ml#post6719040


Geothermal Info: http://www.nyserda.org/programs/geot...mal_manual.pdf


More Geothermal Info: http://www.geo4va.vt.edu/A2/A2.htm


Thermal Paste: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=1


Overclocking 780i: http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...ml#post6809531
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=...55449;

Q9550: http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...ml#post7096023


Cable Sleeving: http://www.overclock.net/case-mods-g...mpany-kit.html


Holy Grail of RAM: http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=320351

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4/11/12 at 3:05pm
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4/11/12 at 3:07pm
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Not many homes in AZ with basements. I dont expect my computer to save electricty just looking to raise my thermostat on air conditioner. I can withstand warmer temps in the house my computer doesnt see it that way. This summer I will have to really crank the air conditioner to keep the cpu within temp specs. I would also like to take the clocks up a bit more but current temps wont allow me to.

Not familiar with water chillers I will google it.

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4/11/12 at 3:11pm
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Not many homes in AZ with basements. I dont expect my computer to save electricty just looking to raise my thermostat on air conditioner. I can withstand warmer temps in the house my computer doesnt see it that way. This summer I will have to really crank the air conditioner to keep the cpu within temp specs. I would also like to take the clocks up a bit more but current temps wont allow me to.
Not familiar with water chillers I will google it.
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Ohh well if you're having trouble with your temps and that's causing you to lower the A/C then you've come to the right place... =P

Your temps however with water cooling will never be better than the ambient temps you have. So if it's say 26c in the house, you might get a delta of 5c (with a very nice system or really loud fans) for the water. So your temps will still be somewhat dependant on the ambient temperatures within the house. They will however be leagues ahead of air cooling however.
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4/11/12 at 3:12pm
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re: power bill
Watercooling vs air conditioning? watercooling is cheaper. watercooling and air conditioning? makes no meaningful difference.


Please don't forget, watercooling is not a magic bullet. given the same hardware settings (clockspeed), you put out basically the same amount of heat on air or water, water is just better at getting it out of your CPU/GPU. it still has to have somewhere to go.

if your cpu is still unstable, you might want to find a stable clock - almost stable = not stable.
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4/11/12 at 3:16pm
I used to live in similar climate and as previously stated water cooling will not necessarily lower your electric bill ( probably the opposite). But it will be effective in transferring the heat from your components into the room.

Where you will have a noticeable difference is noise. Usually you will notice this the most from your GPU.

I have the same case as you, so you should be able to able to fit a 360 RAD fairly easily which will help with the temps.

I would suggest taking your time and learning as mush as possible before taking the plunge. But I will say that I think water-cooling is TOTALLY worth it.

One option is to look at a kit like EK or XSPC. Look at the link to the XSPC kits in my sig.

FYI - my GPU temp was usually in the 80's to 90's during gaming. Now with my CPU and GPU being water-cooled I might see my GPU in the low 40's during gaming. smile.gif. (My computer room is noticeably hotter than the rest of the house though, so I am looking at better airflow option for the room.)
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Guess Im not making myself clear. Does anyone have any suggestions regarding the brand, type, cost of a water cooling system that would work in my rig? All in one? or custom?
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